well i survived the resetting of both the modem and the router (of course i screwed up naming the network/or the home group or something)
so after help from verizon support today (after a frustrating long day yesterday trying to reconfigure the settings ) i am back online on both computers
thank you very much for your help
and if there is anything else i need to i await you further instruction
p.s. have i told you all here how much you are appreciated ? well you are !!