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You could try google and if it does not work we could try and get IE installed.

I am out of town on business possibly until the 7th of August and so may not be able to reply until then, someone else may pitch in meanwhile and I am sorry if there is a delay.

Any luck with running PCPitstop?
If not can you tell us what XP service pack is presently installed on the computer.

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Alright, I am about ready to order parts for this build. Unfortunately, I forgot much of what I learned researching for this build. I have a list on Newegg that I would like you to review for me if it's no bother. Again, I will use this computer mostly for browsing the web including streaming video, dvd/cd playback and maybe some editing, and playing the Total War series of pc games.
Case: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811147153
HDD: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16822236339
GPU: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814127675
PSU: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817151095
RAM: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820231314
Motherboard: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813128582
CPU: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819116504
DVD Writer: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16827106352

Are all parts compatible and do they make sense? Is this a good case with sufficient size and cooling?
Any problems with the motherboard, because I wasn't sure how to choose except on reviews, since there are so many with exactly the same specs? Any better GPU choices?
Also, if you could reccomend what type of monitor I need it would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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The cost of the HDD is a bit expensive, consider http://www.outletpc....gn=pcpartpicker or http://www.outletpc....gn=pcpartpicker amazon also has the WD blue available for $75.

Nice list of parts BTW :thumbsup:
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Thanks for the reply.
I changed the HDD
My other concerns are the PSU and the GPU. Is 620w enough power to allow for future additions or upgrades? The GPU is the hardest component for me to understand. Is the one I chose the best for the price? I want to be able to play new games with it, but the Total War games are more CPU than GPU intensive.
Will the motherboard I chose run all the parts at their best without limiting anything? I don't plan on overclocking, and the only thing I think I might add is a sound card in the future, and I want to make sure there are enough slots.
what is the diference between a PCI 3, PCI 2, and PCI? Is it a good idea to buy a refurbished monitor?
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PSU is good for adding additional HDDs etc but not for adding a second video card, for your intended use one card is adequate in any event.

Your choice of GPU was fine but expensive, a less expensive alternative that will also meet all of your requirements http://www.newegg.co...ID=3938566&SID=

Use some of the cash saved to purchase a better MB http://www.microcent...tel_Motherboard

99.9% of MBs made today have very good 7.1 audio chips integrated into the board and unless you are prepared to pay a large amount of cash for a sound card that the likes of a professional musician would use you will not get better, also keep in mind though that an audio chip will only sound as good as the speakers that it is connected to.

PCI-E 3 is faster than 1 and 2, it is backwards compatible with PCI-E 2 but not all PCI-E 1 MBs.

Personally I would never purchase anything refurbished myself and I would feel uncomfortable recommending that anyone else did so, keep in mind that you have no way of knowing how the item/s were looked after.
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Alright thanks, I'll make the changes.
What about an operating system? I have a copy of windows that came with a different computer, can I install that instead of buying a new copy? If not, then what is the cheapest way to get one?
Also, what should I look for in a monitor?
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The OS depends on what type of disk you have OEM or the full retail type, see my canned text below regarding OEM OSs;

Just a cautionary note, unless your OS disk is the full retail edition you cannot use it with a new MB as an OEM disk is tied to the original MB it was paired with, to use an OEM disk with a new MB is software piracy and therefore illegal.
Exceptions to the above are 1: If your MB is replaced under warranty and 2: If your MB is replaced out of warranty with an alternative type but same brand due to the original model no longer being available, an upgraded MB however will require the purchase of a new OS licence.


If the disk is the full retail type you can only use it if you have a product key for it and the product key must not be in use on any other computer.

If you need to purchase an OS disk and product key http://www.outletpc....gn=pcpartpicker

HDMI, display and a DVI port, 2ms response time, backlight, tilt and height adjustable and built in speakers as optional if you don`t already have some.

You are welcome BTW :thumbsup:
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Is this OS okay? http://www.newegg.co...N82E16832416550
I'd prefer to order from the same source for convenience sake
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Good choice :thumbsup:

A lot of people are adverse to W8 but I like it myself, after the start button has been installed of course http://lee-soft.com/vistart/
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I received the parts and put it together to the best of my ability. I am having a couple of issues though.
First, there is no beep when I start the computer. There is a small speaker with a 4-pin connector, and 4 pins clearly labeled "speaker" on the motherboard. I don't know what the problem is. Everything else seems to work: all the light and fans come on, the dvd drive turns on and opens. It just wont beep.]

Next, I'm not sure how to set up the computer after all the parts are installed. I connected the monitor, and when I start the computer, it says "reboot and select proper boot device." Does this mean the HDD is not recognized, or is it something else? I have the data and power cables connected. When I insert the motherboard disc and boot, it bring me to the boot screen, then asks if I want to generate the serial ata diskette.

Im not sure what the problem is here. To connect the drives I used some of the cables that came with the psu. It has three sata connectors and one end that goes into the psu. I only have two drives, so one connector is doing nothing. Is that okay. I also connected the gpu via psu cables, instead of the ones that came with the card, because they had ends on them I couldn't connect to the psu. It is a 660Ti, and I don't know if I need both power cords or just one. Everything just seems funny because I have cables with ends that aren't attached to anything all over. Maybe this is nornal for a computer that isnt factory assembled, but this is my fist build so it seems weird.

Let me know if you need me to post pictures
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We will come back to the speaker after the other points have been addressed.

Next, I'm not sure how to set up the computer after all the parts are installed.

The first thing you must do is format the HDD and install the operating system then the MB drivers, to do this you must change the boot sequence in the BIOS to DVD drive first and the HDD second, see details below;

To change Boot Sequence in your BIOS;

Reboot the system and at the first post screen (where it is counting up memory) start tapping the appropriate button that allows you to access the BIOS (Del – F8 etc)
This will enter you into the BIOS/CMOS
Find the Advanced area and click Enter
Look for Boot Sequence or Boot Options and highlight that click Enter
Now highlight the first drive and follow the directions on the bottom of the screen on how to modify it and change it to DVD/ CD drive
Change the second drive to the C or Main Drive
Once that is done then click F10 to Save and Exit
You will prompted to enter Y to verify Save and Exit.
Click Y and the system will now reboot with the new settings.

While you are in the BIOS you will also need to reset the time and date and again save the new settings (F10) and then Y to accept the changes.

I only have two drives, so one connector is doing nothing. Is that okay.

Yes that is fine just make sure that the cable is tucked away securely.

I also connected the gpu via psu cables, instead of the ones that came with the card, because they had ends on them I couldn't connect to the psu. It is a 660Ti

The cables that came with the video card should be the PSU 4 pin molex type to the PCI-E type that the video card requires.

and I don't know if I need both power cords or just one.

Both power cords must be connected to the video card.
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I booted from the disc, then pressed del., which took me to the bios screen. I went to boot options and selected the optical drive as the boot device. Then I loaded the os disc and it is installing windows. It's not exactly what you said, but I assume there is some variation between manufacturers and brands. Is it even possible to install windows if it's not set up right, and if so can it hurt anything?

the chords that came with the gpu didnt even reach the psu, so I used the pci-e chords that came with the psu instead, and it seems to be working fine.

When I looked at storage devices it recognized the HDD so that answers one of my questions. I just need to know if what I am doing now is correct in installing windows.
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Is it even possible to install windows if it's not set up right, and if so can it hurt anything?

No and no, if the boot order is not set correctly all the BIOS would have seen would have been a blank HDD + keep in mind that a computer can also boot from the OS disk itself and that is why you must ensure that the boot order is saved in the BIOS and that the settings confirmed by pressing Y.

NB: It is vital that you thoroughly read all installation and user manuals provided with all products.
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Alright, thank you. I installed windows, and everything appears to be working fine. I made the hdd the 1st boot device, and I can start windows without a disc. I read all the manual. It's just that this is my first build and I am being really cautious.

My question now is do I need to install the driver discs that came with the hardware individually? I guess I'm mainly asking for the gpu. It came with a driver disc, but I can play videos on the computer right now, so do I need to run the discs that came with all the hardware? Sorry if this is a dumb question.

Also, is there anything I can do to make sure Everything is the way it needs to be to run optimally? That is a very broad question, but there is no specific problem I am having. I guess I want to know if there is anything else that needs to be done before I close up the case and start using the computer?

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Good news :thumbsup:

First job now is to install the drivers for the MB from the disk that was provided, this will ensure that all features are enabled.

Second, install the drivers for the video card from the disk provided, the system is presently using the generic Windows drivers so you will not get the best performance from the video card otherwise.

Third, search for and install all updates for your OS and hardware.

NB: Be sure to install an anti virus program such as Avast free or Microsoft Security Essentials which is again available free of charge.
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