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Getting ready to build kind of a gamer for a dear friend of mine who has ask me to build him a top of the line Rig or one pretty close to it. He would like to be able to play high end games on it if he so chooses with out hang ups or crashes. He watches video's and does some graphics like PSP. I have a list that I would really appreciate you all taking a look at and giving me your opinion on the kind of computer you think this will make. Any and all help would be so appreciated.. I have two CPU's cause I am having problems trying to decide which would be the better of the two for his build...PLEASE HELP!




( Patriot Viper Xtreme Series) TigerDirect
Patriot Viper Xtreme Series PXD38G2400C11K 8GB Kit - DDR3, 2400MHz, Enhanced Latency Kit, RoHS, 1.65V $95.99
http://www.tigerdire...6958&CatId=4534

(TigerDirect)
(CPU)
Intel Core i7-3770K BX80667i73770K Processor - Quad Core, 8MB L3 Cache, 3.50GHz (3.90GHz Max Turbo), Socket H2 (LGA1155), 77W, Fan, Unlocked, Retail $309.99 After Coupon
http://www.tigerdire...372989&csid=_61

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(CPU)
Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770K
$20 off w/ promo code CPU20US, ends 7/21 $339.99


(TigerDirect)
(Motherboard) ASUS P8Z77-V Deluxe Intel 7 Series Motherboard - ATX, Socket H2 (LGA1155), Intel Z77, 2400MHz DDR3 (O.C.), SATA III (6Gb/s), RAID, 8-CH Audio, 2x Gigabit LAN, USB 3.0, PCIe 3.0, WiFi-N, SLI/CrossFireX $284.99
http://www.tigerdire...p?EdpNo=2291302

(Video Card- TigerDirect)
MSI R7970-2PMD3GD5 Radeon HD 7970 Video Card - 3072MB, GDDR5, PCI-Express 3.0 (x16), 1x Dual-Link DVI-I, 2x Mini DisplayPort, 1x HDMI, DirectX 11, Dual-Slot, Eyefinity, CrossFireX Ready $439.99
http://www.tigerdire...merReviewsBlock

(PSU)TigerDirect)
Corsair CP-9020003-NA Enthusiast Series TX750M Modular Power Supply - 750W, 80 Plus Bronze, Single +12V Rail $114.99
http://www.tigerdire...580996&csid=_61

(Hard drive-TigerDirect)
Western Digital WD10EALX Caviar Blue Hard Drive - 1TB, 3.5", SATA 6Gbps, 7200 RPM, 32MB $89.99
http://www.tigerdire...ku=TSD-1000EALX

(Optical Drive-TigerDirect)
Sony Optiarc BD-5300S-03 Internal 12x Blu-ray Burner Drive - 12x, SATA, Black, OEM
http://www.tigerdire...p?EdpNo=1747931
$79.99

(USB 3.0- TigerDirect)
Ultra U12-40528 SuperSpeed USB 3.0 PCI Express x1 Expansion Card - 2 External USB 3.0 Ports, Up to 5GbpsItem#: $29.99
http://www.tigerdire...558956&csid=_61


(Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit w/ Service Pack 1) Tianchengqi PriceGrabber
https://www.pricegra...ack-1/13020801/ 73.99

(Antec Case-NewEgg)
Antec Twelve Hundred V3 Black Steel ATX Full Tower Unbeatable Gaming Case $159.99
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811129100

(Heatsink & Fan) NewEgg
Antec Kuhler H2O 620 Liquid Cooling System $58.99
http://www.newegg.co...ID=86lcxq91cp7f

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Hugz
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:welcome: Gizzy57

First off please take the information that I provide as guidance and it is in now way criticism.

The list that you have put together and what your friend intends using the rig for are miles apart both in the spec required and what it will cost to build a top of the range gaming rig that will still be up there in years to come.

If you have no objection I will put you such a list together for consideration.

I have read your post on the Introductions Forum so it would appear you know your way around a computer, others who read this thread may however not know certain facts;

Using an aftermarket cooler, a very important thing I must make you aware of is that you do not need the additional heatsink and CPU fan and if you did use it you would void your CPU warranty, Intel are clear on this, see below;

damage to the Product due to external causes, including accident, problems with electrical power, abnormal electrical, mechanical or environmental conditions, usage not in accordance with product instructions, misuse, neglect, alteration, repair, improper installation, or improper testing;


Full article available @ http://www.intel.com...b/cs-009862.htm

You should never choose a PSU until all other hardware has been decided on and then confirmed as being available - then use a PSU calculator such as the example @ http://images10.newe...tage-Calculator as this will help ensure that you will have enough clean and stable power and keep in mind that an 80% output efficiency rating is a must.
Quality brand modular PSUs are very expensive + they are an unnecessary expense when you are choosing your own case as all that is needed is good cable management.

Let me know if you would like an alternative list of parts and I will put one together.
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:welcome: Gizzy57

First off please take the information that I provide as guidance and it is in now way criticism.

The list that you have put together and what your friend intends using the rig for are miles apart both in the spec required and what it will cost to build a top of the range gaming rig that will still be up there in years to come.

If you have no objection I will put you such a list together for consideration.

I have read your post on the Introductions Forum so it would appear you know your way around a computer, others who read this thread may however not know certain facts;

Using an aftermarket cooler, a very important thing I must make you aware of is that you do not need the additional heatsink and CPU fan and if you did use it you would void your CPU warranty, Intel are clear on this, see below;

damage to the Product due to external causes, including accident, problems with electrical power, abnormal electrical, mechanical or environmental conditions, usage not in accordance with product instructions, misuse, neglect, alteration, repair, improper installation, or improper testing;


Full article available @ http://www.intel.com...b/cs-009862.htm

You should never choose a PSU until all other hardware has been decided on and then confirmed as being available - then use a PSU calculator such as the example @ http://images10.newe...tage-Calculator as this will help ensure that you will have enough clean and stable power and keep in mind that an 80% output efficiency rating is a must.
Quality brand modular PSUs are very expensive + they are an unnecessary expense when you are choosing your own case as all that is needed is good cable management.

Let me know if you would like an alternative list of parts and I will put one together.

Thank you so much and I in no way take this as criticism cause I am so new to picking out the bits and pieces of a build and most always need help and with this kind of build I knew I would need lots of help cause all the computers I have built other then my hubby's are all low dollar ones and it didn't take anything special for them so it was pretty easy...I really appreciate your help and would really be forever grateful dear if you don't mind putting together a list for me and the total at the end so I can present it to him. Your so kind and I am so grateful


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Hi there Gizzy57

Let us know your thoughts on this build http://pcpartpicker.com/uk/p/cKm1

Any questions as to why I selected any of the parts please ask :thumbsup:

NB: Please note that pcpartpicker is also available in the US as well as other countries.
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Hi there Gizzy57

Let us know your thoughts on this build http://pcpartpicker.com/uk/p/cKm1

Any questions as to why I selected any of the parts please ask :thumbsup:

NB: Please note that pcpartpicker is also available in the US as well as other countries.


Oh while I can not thank you enough and do have a couple of questions, one why Window 7 home 64-bit instead of Windows 7 Professional 64-bit and why this CPU Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor instead of Intel Core i7-3770K? Looks like a really awesome build. I will send him this link.


Again thank you so very much for all your help..

Hugz
Gizzy

Edited by Gizzy57, 22 July 2012 - 12:50 PM.

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why Window 7 home 64-bit instead of Windows 7 Professional 64-bit

Purely one of cost and if your friend would rather have the Pro version it is easy enough to edit the list.

why this CPU Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor instead of Intel Core i7-3770K?

If your friend was going to be using the machine for professionally rendering videos, be having multiple programs running on two or more screens at the same time or into heavy 3D work I would have suggested an i7 core CPU due to the Hyper-Threading capabilities available, the i5 3570K is more than capable of doing what the machine will be used for and for a lot less financial outlay.

And you are welcome BTW :thumbsup:
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why Window 7 home 64-bit instead of Windows 7 Professional 64-bit

Purely one of cost and if your friend would rather have the Pro version it is easy enough to edit the list.

why this CPU Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor instead of Intel Core i7-3770K?

If your friend was going to be using the machine for professionally rendering videos, be having multiple programs running on two or more screens at the same time or into heavy 3D work I would have suggested an i7 core CPU due to the Hyper-Threading capabilities available, the i5 3570K is more than capable of doing what the machine will be used for and for a lot less financial outlay.

And you are welcome BTW :thumbsup:



Sent the link to him and waiting to hear back but have a feeling he will be happy with this. The only reason I even choose the professional is I read somewhere that you can make it look much like XP and since that is what he is used to working on I thought that would work but in the end it will be like you said easy to swap out...Again thank you so much for everything...

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You are welcome :thumbsup:
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OK I have sent the link to him and here is his reply...

Just took a quick glance... Most of this stuff I don't even know what they're talkin' about, but I see this motherboard can handle 32 GB of memory and we're only going to use 8 ?

And the CPU is an i5...would rather go with the i7, and I don't see a water cooler there...

Kinda like the sound of that Samsung solid state drive... know anybody that's used one?


Have you ever heard of the Samsung solid state drive and the pro's and con's on them? I know I have a lot of Samsung stuff including my phone and I love them but never heard much about these drives.

Would the i7 CPU be something that woudl work with all the other stuff you posted?

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Has your friend read this topic?
If not can I ask that he does so that he has all of the information I have provided.

When building a computer you must consider future upgrade potential, being able to have 32GB of Ram is one such option and no one is saying you have to have it.

The i5 as opposed to the i7 CPU, again does your friend understand it`s capabilities will not be used and so is a waste of cash.

Using an after market cooler and the warranty implications has been explained, water cooling is something that overclockers use due to the higher than normal temps created, it is high maintenance, can leak and ruin the whole system and it again voids your warranty, Intel are to sell an a one off additional warranty service to overclockers which tells you something http://www.pcpro.co....or-overclockers

Read the Newegg feedback tab regarding the Samsung SSD http://www.newegg.co...ID=3938566&SID=
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Has your friend read this topic?
If not can I ask that he does so that he has all of the information I have provided.

When building a computer you must consider future upgrade potential, being able to have 32GB of Ram is one such option and no one is saying you have to have it.

The i5 as opposed to the i7 CPU, again does your friend understand it`s capabilities will not be used and so is a waste of cash.

Using an after market cooler and the warranty implications has been explained, water cooling is something that overclockers use due to the higher than normal temps created, it is high maintenance, can leak and ruin the whole system and it again voids your warranty, Intel are to sell an a one off additional warranty service to overclockers which tells you something http://www.pcpro.co....or-overclockers

Read the Newegg feedback tab regarding the Samsung SSD http://www.newegg.co...ID=3938566&SID=


Just sending him this topic so that he has a better understanding. I should have done that in the first place but I wasn't thinking. LOL...OLD AGE is bad on a woman you know..Thsnkd again for all your time your putting into this with me...

Hugz
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No worries :thumbsup:
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OK here is kind of a new revised list with a few changes per his request and out of stock idems if you could take a look and give me your thoughts on it I would really appreiciate it again...After reading your post he now better understands your reason for the i5 motherboard and is very happy with it all..

I am attaching a notepad with the new list..

Attached File  RJ's New Rig List.txt   2.3KB   41 downloads

Thanks for all your help and patients with this..

Hugz
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Nice build but you do not need 16GB of Ram, 8GB is adequate for the intended use, just trying to cut down the cost a little but if your friend wants 16GB of Ram :thumbsup:

For the benefit of others who may read the thread I have copy - paste your list below;


(MB-NewEgg)
ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.co...ID=3938566&SID= $124.99

(CPU-Amazon)
Intel Core i5 3570K Processor 3.4 Ghz 4 cores BX80637I53570K
http://www.amazon.co.../?tag=pcpapi-20 $214.99

(Memory-NewEgg)
CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ16GX3M4A1600C9
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820233143 $97.99

(Hard Drive-SuperBiiz)
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB SATA3 7200rpm 64MB Hard Drive
http://www.superbiiz...HD-W12FAEX&c=CJ $102.99

(SSD) HDD
Samsung 128GB 830 Series Internal 2.5" Solid State Drive (SSD) email print
http://www.bhphotovi...s_Internal.html $134.95

(Video Card-NewEgg)
EVGA 02G-P4-2678-KR GeForce GTX 670 FTW 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.co...ID=3938566&SID= $399.99

(Case-NCIX.com)
Antec Twelve Hundred 1200 V3 Full Tower Gaming Case 12X 5.25/3.5IN Bays 2.5IN USB 3.0 ATX Cpx
http://us.ncix.com/p...nufacture=Antec $179.98

(PSU-NCIX.com)
Corsair TX850 V2 850W ATX 12V Single Rail 70A 24PIN ATX Power Supply Active PFC 80PLUS Bronze
http://us.ncix.com/p...facture=Corsair $129.99

(Optical Drive-NewEgg)
Pioneer Black 12X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 10X BD-ROM 4MB Cache SATA Internal BD/DVD/CD Writer BDR-207DBKS
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16827129067 $89.99

(Wireless Networking Card- NewEgg)
NETGEAR WN311B-100NAS N300 Wireless Adapter IEEE 802.11b/g/n PCI Up to 300Mbps Wireless Data Rates 64/128-Bit WEP, WPA, WPA2
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16833122163 $63.99

(Windows - Amazon)
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit (Full) System Builder DVD 1 Pack
http://www.amazon.co.../?tag=pcpapi-20 $90.65
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Nice build but you do not need 16GB of Ram, 8GB is adequate for the intended use, just trying to cut down the cost a little but if your friend wants 16GB of Ram :thumbsup:

For the benefit of others who may read the thread I have copy - paste your list below;


(MB-NewEgg)
ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.co...ID=3938566&SID= $124.99

(CPU-Amazon)
Intel Core i5 3570K Processor 3.4 Ghz 4 cores BX80637I53570K
http://www.amazon.co.../?tag=pcpapi-20 $214.99

(Memory-NewEgg)
CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ16GX3M4A1600C9
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820233143 $97.99

(Hard Drive-SuperBiiz)
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB SATA3 7200rpm 64MB Hard Drive
http://www.superbiiz...HD-W12FAEX&c=CJ $102.99

(SSD) HDD
Samsung 128GB 830 Series Internal 2.5" Solid State Drive (SSD) email print
http://www.bhphotovi...s_Internal.html $134.95

(Video Card-NewEgg)
EVGA 02G-P4-2678-KR GeForce GTX 670 FTW 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.co...ID=3938566&SID= $399.99

(Case-NCIX.com)
Antec Twelve Hundred 1200 V3 Full Tower Gaming Case 12X 5.25/3.5IN Bays 2.5IN USB 3.0 ATX Cpx
http://us.ncix.com/p...nufacture=Antec $179.98

(PSU-NCIX.com)
Corsair TX850 V2 850W ATX 12V Single Rail 70A 24PIN ATX Power Supply Active PFC 80PLUS Bronze
http://us.ncix.com/p...facture=Corsair $129.99

(Optical Drive-NewEgg)
Pioneer Black 12X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 10X BD-ROM 4MB Cache SATA Internal BD/DVD/CD Writer BDR-207DBKS
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16827129067 $89.99

(Wireless Networking Card- NewEgg)
NETGEAR WN311B-100NAS N300 Wireless Adapter IEEE 802.11b/g/n PCI Up to 300Mbps Wireless Data Rates 64/128-Bit WEP, WPA, WPA2
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16833122163 $63.99

(Windows - Amazon)
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit (Full) System Builder DVD 1 Pack
http://www.amazon.co.../?tag=pcpapi-20 $90.65



Thanks and for some reason he wanted 16GB ram..I got a text from him this morning and he said he has ordered everything but had some issues with NCIX and Super Biz and the fact that he is having everything shipped to my address so once that is resolved the build is on...Again thank you so much for all your help...

Hugz
Gizzy
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