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Building My First PC - a lot of advice needed!


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Good choice for the CPU,


info FROM STORE WEB PAGE.



Posted ImageSome items are only available for In-store Pickup. These products can not be shipped. When you place an in-store pickup order Monday - Saturday 10 to 8 and Sunday 11 to 5, we'll confirm it within 18 minutes.


Instructions on how to place your order. > http://www.microcent...ort/pickup.html
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So, the CPU, mobo, powersupply, case and RAM has been purchased...

the graphics card will also be soon

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what am I forgetting? :) lol!
I need a diskdrive right? or is that included with the case (sorry if thats a really dumb question)
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Hi Vixie.


AS the post has been a little extended and so there is no confusion about parts. Please give a full list, Make and model of everthing you have purchased + the ORDERED GPU

How much have you left in your budget?.
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CPU - $190
Mobo - (microcenter deal, $85)
Case - $40
Hard Drive - $45
RAM - $35
Power Supply - $65
So I think thanks to the deals grabbed, I've spent less than I thought :D
Still got graphics card to buy, I think it'll be this one
what now? ^_^
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A great list of parts and well done on budgeting, Posted Image

No
to the GPU card you listed.

At this performance/price range, this is the card I recommend, > http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814130622 $269
If your budget will allow, move up to the next tier, > http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814127697 $299 also gives you 2GB memory.
Compare, > http://www.newegg.co...2^14-130-622-TS

This review is not for the suggested card but, gives a very good indication of just how good the 660ti performs, > http://techreport.com/articles.x/23419

Your have not listed a optical drive.
What OS will you be using?

A couple of items I suggest you include,

An anti static wrist strap like this, > http://www.newegg.co...N82E16899261005
An internal system beep speaker which gives a beep code at post, indicating OK, or a problem, > ie, http://www.cwc-group.com/casp.html
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Hi Vixie

Please check your prices at the links as it appears that the discount has been deducted twice from some items.
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Rage - the prices shown were from the time of purchase, since then the discounts may have changed :). Oh though I did get the hard drive price wrong lol :) should be $50! Woops

that does look much better O.O (the 660ti) and given the savings made on the other purchases I'm more inclined to splurge out a little
though for the same price (after rebate) this looks a little better, should I go with this one?
Oh also, the
"Power Edition
- Triple Overvoltage: adjust the voltage of GPU, memory and VDDCI to unleash the potential of graphics card.
- Enhanced PWM Design: provide higher overclocking capability and better stability in peak load."

on both the Graphics cards looks a little scary to me, will these be fine with the purchased power supply? and is it something I need to have knowledge about before using?

The optical drive is just the disk bit right? I could be very wrong this is something I know nothing about. Is there anything wrong with skimping and getting a cheap one like a basic sony one

The OS system I was going to get is Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. Would there be a problem getting the OEM version at $75 from here ?

As for the anti static thingy - I decided to hire someone else to put the parts together, yes it will cost more but I would feel better about a professional doing it rather than risking the parts with my own clumsy newness. Should I still purchase the beep thingy when doing this?


Thanks so much again for everyones help :D

Edited by Vixie, 22 August 2012 - 02:48 PM.

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As for the anti static thingy - I decided to hire someone else to put the parts together, yes it will cost more but I would feel better about a professional doing it rather than risking the parts with my own clumsy newness. Should I still purchase the beep thingy when doing this?


The speaker/sounder for error beeps, is still a good idea, even if you are going to have the system built for you.

There is one point, you may wish to consider.

Please do ensure that this person is himself experienced. I realise you say a professional, but there can be few more upsetting circumstances than to have someone else damage the motherboard, CPU etc and then tell you that it must have been faulty. and leave YOU with the problem of an RMA on the component to the supplier.

If he is a professional and depending on the arrangement, then you MAY find, that this is going to work out more expensive, than you buying a ready built system, meeting your requirements.

It is difficult to offer further advice, without knowing, how much, he is to charge you.

Building a computer these days, with block connectors, that will only fit one way, is not difficult, it does require care, but the satisfaction of knowing that YOU have built it is tremendous, at least on the first one or two, and there is no better way of then being able to feel confident, about checking if something should go wrong at a later date.

That said, the decision must of course be yours.

If you do decide to re consider here is useful information
http://www.geekstogo...r-own-computer/

that guide was prepared by two of our staff members TROY and ARTELLOS

and here are a couple of others
http://www.howtogeek...ng-it-together/

http://www.tomshardw...pc,2601-10.html
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Very sound advice from Macboatmaster and rest assured that we would be able to give you further building help.

for the same price (after rebate)

this

looks a little better, should I go with this one?

Yes.


on both the Graphics cards looks a little scary to me, will these be fine with the purchased power supply? and is it something I need to have knowledge about before using?

The PSU will handle everything with some power to spare for additional hardware, (except a second GPU) The overclocking features are user friendly and should not take much time to become familiar with.

Is there anything wrong with skimping and getting a cheap one like

a basic sony one

Perfect. You will mostly use it to install software and will be fused to burn a emergency recovery disk, and backing up your deemed important Data, all can be done with Windows7.

The OS system I was going to get is Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. Would there be a problem getting the OEM version at

$75 from here

?

No problem using a OEM licencee version,, just means that it is not legal to install it again on another computer.

Download you Motherboards user manual from their website as it may be more up to date than the one included in the box you receive.

Edited by iammykyl, 23 August 2012 - 04:16 AM.

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Soooo... if I order that today.. THATS EVERYTHING!?!?!?! :D:D:D:D:D:D

And looking at the guide is giving me chills in my stomach, I would like to do it myself and know it would feel good and save money to do so... but I also know i will be shaking and clumsy!

Edited by Vixie, 23 August 2012 - 01:38 PM.

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Soooo... if I order that today.. THATS EVERYTHING!?!?!?!

:D

:D:D:D:D:D

If you order the OS, the DVD burner and GPU, that will be everything you need for the build, +
suggested optional parts, anti static wrist strap and internal system beep speaker.

Your qualms about building. Did you find out how much the tech would charge you? Would he be willing to oversee you doing the build?

What monitor will you be using? and does it have speakers?

Edited by iammykyl, 23 August 2012 - 04:50 PM.

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still waiting on the dvd and gpu to be ordered (newegg doesnt accept my card sadly so i have to prod other people into doing it)
also puchasing the anti-static, beeper and cable ties.

Do i need to purchase on heat-paste things? or fans?
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Hi Vixie

The heatsink that comes in the box with your processor will have a thermal pad on it so unless you actually preferred a paste such as Arctic Silver 5 for example then no additional paste purchase is necessary.

Your case has a very capable cooling system so again unless you particularly wanted to add a fourth 120mm fan no the 3 big fans are adequate, a regular clean will also help to keep things cool.

Edit:
Sorry Mac I did not realize that you were already posting a reply :thumbsup:
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Your qualms about building. Did you find out how much the tech would charge you? Would he be willing to oversee you doing the build?

What monitor will you be using? and does it have speakers?


Although it was my good colleague iammykyl that posted the question it may help if you answered it, so that he may provide the best advice

If it is a CPU boxed deal with cooler it will come with thermal paste pre applied - usually

Some people, especially if they are going to overclock, not something I would recommend, prefer a more specialised application of thermal paste, than is provided as standard
What the thermal paste actually does is to cater for the minute imperfections as such in the surface of the CPU and the cooler., where they mate together.

FANS it depends on what if any are provided in the case, and what is not.
Basically you have the CPU cooler fan, then you have a fan drawing air in and a fan sucking air out.
These if fitted to the case, will be designed so that a balanced air flow is achieved

If the case only comes with one fan pre fitted then yes you need to consider that.

We are really back to how qualfied this person is you are employing , for want of a better word to assemble it, if he is taking responsibility for the correctness of the build, then I suggest it would be foolish not to follow his advice., as of course if you do not, and the system overheats then - where do you go from there.

EDIT
As you can see, my good colleague phillpower2 and I posted together - and as you can see - we agree.
We can I feel certain, better advise you, when you tell us, unless you prefer not to, some details of the arrangements for this person to build the system.
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I don't know myself what's happening. Relying on other people for this information, people say they will get to asking and never get back to me, it is incredibly frustrating. It would either be the tech person who works for my stepdads business or a friend in the family who's built his own before. Though since neither of these people have actually been contacted and I'm really wanting to get things moving in case any parts don't work as I'm going on holiday on Friday... so I think I'll be building it myself, I will read through you're tutorials and have my friend skype with me while I do it I guess, eep!

And sorry I didn't mean to ignore the question, i'm just gonna transfer the monitor, mouse and keyboard from this pc, theyre not great but it'll work for now. it doesn't have speakers but since I spend most of my time on skype I'll pretty much always be using headphones anyway.
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