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#31
Smudgeboss

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I cannot say, Macboat, that the removal of McAfee made any changes, but without any actual data it "feels" faster since I removed iobit. There are still times when I click on something and I get the circle of time for a few seconds before what I asked for happens.

2) Number of processors is checked, and under that, greyed out is debug port and Baud rate which are both checked.
-I hope this is what you were after Macboat

I will await response before I proceed to step 3 and the clean boot.

thanks MacboatMaster
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So max mem is NOT checked.

Uncheck the number of processors.

Windows will use the max available - what was in the number

See this

"If unchecked, windows will use the maximum number of cores that it can during the boot processes.

you only need to change this setting if you specifically know it is causing problems.

It is commonly reported that microsoft have got this wrong - you will even see posts by people swearing that their boot is faster when playing with this setting.

Leave it as it is if you do not have any boot problems.

It is there NOT for checking the box, in normal use, it is there for trouble shooting purposes."

Here is a rather surprising coincidence - is it not
another dell studio 1558

http://www.geekstogo...printers-found/

see my last = ?
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Max Memory is NOT checked, you are right.

I unchecked the number of processors (number showing was 8)

-yes both my computer and his were dell 1558. And I have the same problems in printers and devices, no printer is shown but both printers that I regularly use (one at home and one at office) print ok. I haven't tried to resolve this since they both work.

I will look through his post thread later.

Do you want me to do a clean boot?

Thanks again.
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Here is extra comfirmation for you.

The Advanced boot options button within the boot tab gives you additional control over Windows startup. These options are typically for advanced startup troubleshooting or development work and so most users will never tweak these settings:

  • Number of processors: You can use this to limits the number of processors used on a multiprocessor system.
  • Maximum memory: With this option you can specify the maximum amount of physical memory in megabytes (MB) to be used by the operating system. This is useful if you want to simulate a low memory configuration.
  • PCI Lock: PCI Lock prevents Windows from reallocating input/output (I/O) and IRQ resources on the Peripheral Component Interconnect (PCI) bus and so the I/O and memory resources set by the BIOS are preserved.
  • Debug: This enables kernel-mode debugging for device driver development. This option is more for development work and not something an end user would honestly use.
  • Global debug settings: Allows you to specify debugger connection settings on the computer so a kernel debugger can communicate with a debugger host. The debugger connection between the host and target computers can be a Serial, Firewire (IEEE 1394), or USB 2.0 connection.
  • Debug port: Specifies using Serial as the connection type and the serial port. The default port is COM 1.
  • Baud rate. An optional setting that allows you to specify the baud rate to use when a Debug port is selected and the debug connection type is Serial. Valid values for baud rate are 9600bps, 19,200bps, 38,400bps, 57,600bps, and 115,200bps. The default baud rate value is 115,200 bps.
  • Channel. Specifies using IEEE 1394 as the debug connection type and specifies the channel number to use. The value for channel must be a decimal integer between 0 and 62, inclusive, and must match the channel number used by the host computer. The channel specified does not depend on the physical IEEE 1394 port chosen on the adapter. The default value for channel is 0.
  • USB target name. Allows you to specify any number for a string value to use when the debug type is USB.


It seems rather strange to me - does it not to you that both of you have the same problems and both of you have the Dell AND of course I did not know about you also having the printer - showing - problem.

I think the best is to see if that max processors checks itself again. - unless of course you know that you checked it.
Having read on a site that it was best checked.
It has been so recommended on some NON recommended sites I have seen.

YES I would try the clean boot now please note my caution re the AV
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Initial response Macboat, I did not check that, I didn't even know it was there. :)

I read somwhere that the missing printers was some glitch with the bluetooth adapter. but I don't know, and didn't pursue it.

I will do clean boot a little later and will follow your directions closely, I am walking in areas that I am unfamiliar with at this point.

thanks again for your help.
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Please run the PCPitstop again but not from the program on you computer.

here is how.

You must use your Internet Explorer for this procedure. (doesn't work so well in Firefox or others). If your machine is running Vista or Windows 7, you must Select IE to "Run as Administrator". After completing PCPitstop OverDrive you can close your IE browser and re-open it Normally so that you are no longer running as administrator.

Go to: http://www.pcpitstop.com Click on "Free Computer Check-up" listed below PC Pitstop OverDrive In the User Login -

Click on "Sign up FREE!"You'll need to submit a valid email address and create your own password, then click - Create Account(button)Now enter your email address and password to Log in, Select - Scan this system Now!(button)

You will then be asked to download an ActiveX component and allow it to install.It is safe and does not compromise your privacy. Follow the on-screen prompts to install the ActiveX and to allow the Full Tests to be run on your machine.

The Full Tests take about 2 1/2 - 3 minutes on most machines. When complete, a Results - Summary - Recommended Fixes will be displayed. Please post the URL internet address, from your Results, back here into this Topic Thread so that we can review the configuration again.

Note: During the graphics 2D and graphics 3D testing, your screen will display some rapidly moving objects.If you are sensitive to visual flashing, it may cause dizziness. Therefore, look away from the screen during that portion of the testing.

While PCPitstop does offer a variety of Paid Products, the PCPitstop OverDrive testing is FREE. Please ignore the references to Paid Products. At WTT we prefer to provide manual solution instructions that you can apply directly to your machine.


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Edit to correct formatting.

Edited by iammykyl, 19 September 2012 - 11:23 PM.

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The guys advising you already have covered the bases so far, so I'm just going to throw in a non-diagnostic comment here. For the tasks which you used the Iobit software 2 are done already by Windows, without you knowing it, junk file cleaning can be handled by the built in cleanmgr utility manually, malware should be handled by . . . something else, and the other things should probably never be done at all by a program, or even a novice user. Just leave those well enough alone. Cleanmgr, which can be accessed easily through the start menu search, new security, and relax!

I'm seeing two possible meanings for the "shutdown" remark, but assuming the more involved one relevant, there's a built in CLI program accessible from the command prompt called shutdown.exe which can do timed and/or remote shutdowns if you have some reason to be fancy about it. Use /? to view it's usage help
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Did you run the MSCONFIG command? If not, please do that. It's an ancient, most elementary, a beginner's command which you run when diagnosing a slowing down computer. By doing that you cut off processes which run unnecessarily in the background. You can always check them back.
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An observation.

I am relatively new to this type of software diagnostic procedure. I can see that instruction given to perform a particular task, could result in a positive outcome, ie, speeding up a bogged down system.

I do however think that the order of tasks may have become muddled, with Smudgeboss having to answer to too many questions.

Would it not be more productive for one person to take account of suggestions and have them carried out in a more progressive manner rather than all over the place?
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Hi iammykyl.

I fully agree with you. The best way is to have one helper going through with a topic. But, as is very often the case, other readers have somewhat different point of view and methodology, and they join in. Sometimes it meddles things up, as you say, but in many other cases the combined knowledge is very helpful. Regarding the present thread, I agree with your conclusion.

Kind Regards

The skeptic
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Hi, Smudgeboss

Did you manage to run thePCPitstop?

How did the Clean Boot go? Re. Post #34.


Edited by Macboatmaster, 23 September 2012 - 12:31 PM.

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will be working on these last couple of items either tonight or tomorrow, been out of the look last couple of days.

Thanks again guys.
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Okay guys, I was out of the loop for a week, fun fun meetings. Anyway I am back at it and thankful for your long patience with this issue. Macboat, I looked to see if number of processors and max mem rechecked themselve, they did not, so that is good.

I ran clean boot. As instructed I started up MSE then went to browse. It would not go on the internet at all. So I tried some of the native programs such as Wordperfect - it took 9 secs to open to splash window then a couple more to open to useable window. (I just tried it now after a reboot out of clean boot and it took about 1.5 to splash and another 1 to useable window. I am not sure what all that means to you but there it is.

Next Step is to run PC pitstop from outside my computer I guess. Will do that.

Thanks guys
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Smudgeboss

The best way is to have one helper going through with a topic


I think it best to folow this option and leave you with my good colleague iammykyl.

Good luck with it
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K Iammykyll I ran PC pitstop from website as you directed. The results are below:

http://www.pcpitstop...?conid=25064975

thanks.
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