[phillpower2]

Thanks for the Speccy details

The +12V reading is again showing as being very low and so I can only suggest that you swap the PSU, borrow a known good one for testing purposes if you can.

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Do you believe replacing my power supply will fix the problems? I can not do so for at least a month. I have checked with the IT guys about that "unknown" Npower 450W. We tested the voltages and they provide a stable outpot for the 12V, 5V , 3V. These guys are trusted in Albertirsa. The problem is, the said Npower is one they use themselves. So... I need to wait for a new arrival.

Until it arrives, what else can I do?


P.s: I did catch that post rather quickly!


I am also thinking of running a CHKDSK just in case. I am planning on heading to bed soon so it will not be any harm, will it?

Edited by Hoihe, 15 September 2012 - 03:52 PM.

[Hoihe]

Do you believe replacing my power supply will fix the problems? I can not do so for at least a month. I have checked with the IT guys about that "unknown" Npower 450W. We tested the voltages and they provide a stable outpot for the 12V, 5V , 3V. These guys are trusted in Albertirsa. The problem is, the said Npower is one they use themselves. So... I need to wait for a new arrival.

Until it arrives, what else can I do?


P.s: I did catch that post rather quickly!


I am also thinking of running a CHKDSK just in case. I am planning on heading to bed soon so it will not be any harm, will it?

Edited by Hoihe, 15 September 2012 - 03:52 PM.

[phillpower2]

I would not use the computer until the PSU has been swapped in case it pops and takes all your hardware with it.

Running CHKDSK stresses the HDD and other components so I do not recommend that you run it at present, also it can take many hours to complete meaning that it would be left unattended overnight, not a good idea with a suspect PSU.

[Hoihe]

Well, if this PSU is deemed useless, would you think I take the gamble with NPower 450W? As I said it's rather stable.


Speedfan is inaccurate



After restarting speedfan, I've received a popup bubble that Speedfan detected my VGA then showed the correct temperatures. Weird. Correct temp being ~ 65's.

Edited by Hoihe, 16 September 2012 - 05:10 AM.

[phillpower2]

If the replacement PSU is known to be stable then yes use it until you get a better brand such as Antec, Corsair, OCZ or Seasonic.

As an asides can I ask if there has been any attempt made to overclock the computer or have any settings been changed in the BIOS.

Two suggestions until you have the replacement PSU, 1: Go into the BIOS and select the factory defaults for the MB in case there is a bad setting. 2: Fit a rear exhaust fan such as a minimum, I realize that you may be in a different part of the world but these fans are not only inexpensive they are also invaluable in helping to keep the inside of the case cool which in turn prolongs the life of your hardware, some examples http://www.amazon.co...8&node=11036291 some connect to the MB and may be read/controlled in the BIOS and some direct to the PSU and so will have no sensor ability but some do have a manual speed control.

Yes odd, check the Speccy readings from yesterday where it is reporting the video card memory as 512mb and the temperature undefined, today is shows 256mb of memory and temperature of 66C, have you changed anything other than the Automatic fan speed, which BTW seems to have dropped the temps down.

[Hoihe]

I have not. I did not do any overclocking attempt, quite the opposite rather. I have did some underclocking, using nTune. They offered me no change. For fans my plan is to get a rear case fan and a VGA fan or something I can fit under it. All I have changed in the BIOS is that I disabled "Quick-boot" and enabled the virus protection of boot files. Otherwise, everything is factory default.

Also, I've taken the pictures of my PC's insides, if any helpeful here I will post them. They are a tad dark though.

Edited by Hoihe, 16 September 2012 - 08:29 AM.

[phillpower2]

No pictures required thank you as you know what you intend doing now, I have checked your MB manual and it shows that you have two of the 3 pin type system fan headers on the MB, http://www.msi.com/p...K9N-Neo-V2.html see the download tab.

[Hoihe]

Looks exactly that way, aye.
So I just insert the PC-I fan in one of those?

From the link you provided, there is also that "Msi DUal core Center" I think i will download it, seems like a specialised Speedfan for my MB.


I also am including an image to show where I can fit my rear fan. I have no other slots in my case where I can fit a fan... save for the MB slots.

Edited by Hoihe, 16 September 2012 - 10:38 AM.

[phillpower2]

Just to clarify, a PCI fan goes in a PCI slot alongside your video card.
The rear exhaust fan must have a 3 pin type connector that will attach to a 3 pin system fan header on the MB.

[Hoihe]

Understood.

Until I get the new PSU and the fans, should I underclock my system?

[phillpower2]

As I said back in my reply #18 I would not even use the computer.
When the time comes all of the computers BIOS settings should also be restored to their defaults as this is when a computer is at it`s most stable.

[Hoihe]

Just as an interesting bit, I have taken a screenshot of my running processes. I justify not starting a topic with the question: Is any of these processes a resource hog and should be disabled?





About not using the PC, I have my mother's computer as well but it is nowhere a gaming PC.


Also I believe this topic is now in a stalemate'till I get the PSU and the pair o'fans.

Edited by Hoihe, 17 September 2012 - 12:56 PM.

[phillpower2]

Nothing major in your start up list, you could disable Firefox, IE and the apple mobile device service but they are hardly hogging system resources.

[Hoihe]

I decided to see what DualCoreCenter, a program provided by my MB manufacturer can read about my voltages:




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I took a pair of screenshots in speccy once more, to double-check.




And in speedfan




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I wonder, wouldn't the 5 V make the computer unbootable? It's 2 vs 1 there though...

I also agreed with the guys at the IT shop to test out my VGA on it's own in one of their computers, to see if it has any issues on it's own in a proper environment.

Edited by Hoihe, 19 September 2012 - 12:54 PM.

[phillpower2]

You are correct as in the computer would not function if the 12V rail was so low, the MSI software is showing normal readings but as I said in my reply #4 the machine is not under stress when you are in the BIOS and any sort of usage will dramatically increase stress on components such as the PSU.

Only using the PC with a known good PSU is still my recommendation.