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Hello

Ive got a Clevo notebook


1. I need more information please

what is the make and full model of the computer if branded


2. also please confirm that your operating system is Windows XP AND which please eg. Home or Professional

3. Do you have the user manual/guide for the Clevo

4. Do you have an external hard drive to which you can - make the image of the drive on the Clevo

5. Please post the answer to those questions AND

6. I think it best, before we proceed any further to run that chkdsk., I have provided the instructions for on my post 14 at item 6.
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1. clevo notebook, model m121w
2. windows xp pro OEM software - installed at the shop where i brought it, but do not have cd
3. dont hav a guide
4. i do have a ext hdd
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Just completed the check disk step. it restarted to normal?
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Please send me the results of the chkdsk
That is start
control panel
admin tools
event viewer
on left pane click application
when that log loads on the main pane click the source heading once
that will sort them and you then scroll to the winlogon entries
open by double clicking the most recent winlogon entry and check that it is the chkdsk results from that chkdsk - ie the one you have last run
If it is not of course, check the winlogon until you find the right one
Then click the double page symbol ONCE to the right of the broad up and down arrows
now paste either directly to your reply, or paste to wordpad etc and then copy and paste to here please as the actual log, not as an attachment that I have to open.

Edited by Macboatmaster, 01 October 2012 - 06:47 AM.

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Event Type: Information
Event Source: Winlogon
Event Category: None
Event ID: 1001
Date: 1/10/2012
Time: 4:24:43 PM
User: N/A
Computer: MARTIN-BB43D941
Description:
Checking file system on C:
The type of the file system is NTFS.

A disk check has been scheduled.
Windows will now check the disk.
Cleaning up 10 unused index entries from index $SII of file 0x9.
Cleaning up 10 unused index entries from index $SDH of file 0x9.
Cleaning up 10 unused security descriptors.
CHKDSK is verifying Usn Journal...
Usn Journal verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying file data (stage 4 of 5)...
File data verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying free space (stage 5 of 5)...
Free space verification is complete.

39062015 KB total disk space.
16793612 KB in 42585 files.
15908 KB in 4989 indexes.
4 KB in bad sectors.
225051 KB in use by the system.
65536 KB occupied by the log file.
22027440 KB available on disk.

4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
9765503 total allocation units on disk.
5506860 allocation units available on disk.

Internal Info:
60 d5 00 00 e2 b9 00 00 0f f0 00 00 00 00 00 00 `...............
6b 14 00 00 02 00 00 00 a9 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 k...............
9c 11 d8 01 00 00 00 00 64 d7 cc 33 00 00 00 00 ........d..3....
fc 72 45 05 00 00 00 00 ca 4d d5 d3 02 00 00 00 .rE......M......
2a 38 e0 01 02 00 00 00 a6 07 72 26 05 00 00 00 *8........r&....
99 9e 36 00 00 00 00 00 88 38 07 00 59 a6 00 00 ..6......8..Y...
00 00 00 00 00 30 00 01 04 00 00 00 7d 13 00 00 .....0......}...

Windows has finished checking your disk.
Please wait while your computer restarts.


For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft....ink/events.asp.
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Hello

1. That chkdsk reported

4 KB in bad sectors


you will notice if you read the details that this 4KB which is 1000 bytes in a KB is also reported as the same size as an allocation unit

4096 bytes in each allocation unit

that is because in that regard there are 1024 bytes involved.

2. It is not quite as minor as it may first appear - when you see that you have

39062015 KB total disk space


a 40 GB Hard drive - eg. 1000 KB in a MEGABYTE and 1000 MB in a GIGABYTE

3. On the hard drive there is something called the Master File Table if a bad sector occurred in the Master File Table, which is what tells the drive where to look for each file it needs, it may well prevent Windows from loading fullyOR at Least problems after it does.

If the bad sector occurred in the first block of the HDD it may even prevent the system going past the BIOS post stage

Basically when you boot the computer this is what happens

As with other Windows Operating Systems, when you turn on your PC, it goes through an elaborate boot up process. It begins when the computer performs the POST (power-on self test), followed by the POST for each adapter card that has a BIOS, for example, your video card. The BIOS then reads the MBR (Master Boot Record) which is in the first sector of the hard drive and transfers control to the code in the MBR which is created by the XP Setup. This is where Windows takes over the startup process.

Here's what happens:

  • The MBR reads the boot sector which is the first sector of the active partition.
  • Selecting XP from the boot menu causes Ntldr to run Ntdetect.com to get information about installed hardware. Ntldr then uses the ARC path specified in the boot.ini to find the boot partition. The one where Windows XP is installed.
  • Ntldr, then, loads the two files that make up the core of XP: Ntoskrnl.exe and Hal.dll.
  • Ntldr reads the registry files, selects a hardware profile, control set and loads device drivers, in that order.
  • Then, Ntoskrnl.exe takes over and starts Winlogon.exe which starts Lsass.exe (Local Security Administration), this is the program that displays the Welcome screen (If Professional Edition-the Windows Log On dialog box), and allows the user to log on with his/her user name and password.
4. So now you can see that, the small proportion of the drive reported as bad sector may have been the cause of the problem
As my recommendation to run the CHKDSK a second time - then allowed you to boot into Windows. -

If chkdsk reports it has found errors and repaired them, you should depending on the error report always run it again, especially where you are trying to resolve a loading error.

5. Chkdsk /r does not repair BAD SECTORS, in fact no disk check / repair - can actualy REPAIR bad sectors, if they are really failing sectors of a HDD
It simply attempts to recover the data from the bad sector re-write it to a good sector and then mark the original sector as BAD so that data is not re-written to it

6. My recommendation is that you ASAP make a complete image of that drive
XP does not allow you to do that with the included software as easily as Windows 7.
I would use one of the free programs on offer.
There are many - sse item 9 below

http://www.easeus.co...y/home-edition/

http://www.easeus.co...-hard-drive.htm

I have used those, they are easy to follow and have good guides to them. - for instance
http://www.todo-back...clone-guide.htm

7. You have to remember that a mere backup eg. a copy of your files etc will NOT allow you, if that drive does fail to then have a system that has all the programs installed that you do now
You cannot preserve programs by means of a simple backup - they will not work
So unless you have the installation media they are gone.

8. I would then keep a close watch on the situation and IMMEDIATELY you start to experience errors AND/OR the bad sectors increase I would consider replacing the drive.
Further advice can be given when you post.

DO NOT repeatedly run the chkdsk /r, as that itself stresses the drive and may indeed do more harm than good.
I would say -run it as soon as you have problems AND even if no problems run it once a month.

9. I mentioned above there are many FREE imaging programs for HDD`s

http://www.macrium.c...eflectfree.aspx

http://www.paragon-s...free/index.html

http://www.runtime.o...veimage-xml.htm


10. I always think it is best to try and offer you a full explanation.
I have tried to keep it is easy to follow as possible
I hope you do not find it confusing.


While you read the details I will look at the CLEVO site, but if you KNOW the make and type of HDD please post it.
Start
programs
accessories
system tools
system information
expand on left pane to
components
storage
disks

you are looking for fixed hard disk and a model number/details

Edited by Macboatmaster, 05 October 2012 - 05:14 AM.

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No thanks you so much for the valuable information.
I always like understanding or the reasoning behind how a process works.

the hhrd drive model is fujitsu mht 2040ah
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The drive is as I am sure you know a 40GB IDE (PATA) drive - therefore you must if you are faced with the need to replace, enure you do not buy a SATA interface connected drive.
http://reviews.cnet....7-30591201.html



Futjitsu sold their drive business to Toshiba in 2009, so you will not now be able to purchase a Futjitsu drive, but that does not matter, it is the size and interface that matter.
http://www.fujitsu.c...ng/storage/hdd/

and they provide for Futjitsu branded drives a disk check
http://storage.toshi...tware-utilities

Use the DOS one, it is better to run it outside of the actual window O/S

Finally if it does require replacement, now or later, the user manual. guide for the Clevo will I am sure help. On many occasions it is little more than 2 screws to remove a panel on the laptop base and disconnect the drive. On some it is more involved

Here is the Clevo link
http://www.clevo.com...ducts/index.asp

Good luck

Edited by Macboatmaster, 05 October 2012 - 06:05 AM.

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hey thanks for all ur advice.
I ended up getting a new laptop.
I'll just give this on to my parents so they can browse the net, lol.
once again, thanks for all ur advice.
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