Help Upgrading Please
Posted 25 September 2012 - 02:38 PM
Posted 25 September 2012 - 03:37 PM
Now i just need to find a good cheap psu that will meet my needs and maybe a few upgrades. i would love to keep the over all total for both as low as possible.
Posted 25 September 2012 - 03:59 PM
Posted 25 September 2012 - 04:25 PM
I'm going to put in a new more powerful psu later on when i upgrade my gpu. So would like to keep it well below $50 for right now. And my current system even if i upgrade later to a 1155 board and cpu they will use less power then my current rig.
http://extreme.outer...n.com/PSUEngine shows that i would be using 255w total with an i5 cpu (thats the furthest i plan to upgrade to for a few years) with my current setup at 282w (that is what my pc needs roughly right now) so i'll actually use a lot less power when i upgrade. So i do not need a huge psu (or an expensive one just one to serve my needs for a few months or so). just one to get me by through my current setup and upgrades (after this i plan to upgrade with an 1155 board and an 1155 cpu and ddr3 ram then a better psu then finally a better gpu). but later on when i prepare to get a high end gpu i'll upgrade my psu to a more beefier one. So with this in mind what would you recommend as the best and cheapest route?
Edited by Zolton33, 25 September 2012 - 08:38 PM.
Posted 26 September 2012 - 02:12 AM
A no nonsense and user friendly PSU calculator http://images10.newe...tage-Calculator and for a quick check http://www2.corsair.com/psufinder/
Posted 26 September 2012 - 06:28 AM
http://www.amazon.co...48660303&sr=1-2 (refurbished) 19.99
There are quite a few higher power off brand psu's on amazon. They are supposed to be rated 80+ http://www.amazon.co...&qid=1348660977
I would love to keep it cheap as possible with it in mind that this new psu won't be powering my system forever. I plan to get a newer much more powerful and reliable one after replacing my cpu and mobo and ram probably January first or February first at the latest so it would just need to last and serve me until around March 15 or so to allow time for delivery (that is if i get my mobo cpu and ram on or by Feb 1st). i was thinking in Jan getting a mobo and ram (about $150 to spend on them then might replace my case fans then as well) and Feb getting the cpu (about $150 cpu thinking an i3 or if the prices come down with the new chipset out an i5) and then in March replacing my psu (for one with a price tag closer to $150 max so i can get one that is a lot better and will last a lot longer) then give it a month or 2 then replace my current gpu.
So this psu i am buying now would only need to last at a maximum of 6 months. And handle these old components and the newer bought ones until then. With that road map in mind what would you suggest? The newer ram mobo and cpu would raise my psu usage to 300w roughly. But i am seriously considering buying those new components minus the newer gpu (will not be buying it until around June so i will be using my old gpu in the new components until then) but not installing them until i get the better psu. So any thoughts and suggestions on a psu that would serve my needs until then?
Posted 27 September 2012 - 04:05 AM
It does have an 80%+ output efficiency rating though
I'm kind of leery when it comes to used products as you have no clue how rough the previous owner was with it.
Back in my reply #16 I provided some guidance and a link to help you choose a good quality PSU, here is another link http://forum.pcmech....ide-inside.html note the absence of the Cool Power brand from both sites, not a good sign so I suggest you steer clear.
Posted 27 September 2012 - 08:01 AM
Although when i look closer they charge $9.71 on top of the $19.99 price tag for a total of $29.90. So i am not sure. In most cases the item was sent back to the manufacturer to be fixed. But i do not know. The person does have a 97% positive feed back with over 807 items sold in the last year. But i am unsure. And there is only 1 so if some one else grabs it before i get a chance to order i'm just out of luck.
i just realized i still have like $7 worth of amazon gift card credit on my amazon account lol. $21.00 from $57.00 (that is me putting $50 for the cpu fan and psu plus the 7 already on my account) gives me about 36 bucks to use to get a decent psu. If i bump it up to $82 (adding another $25) that would give me 61 for a psu. But to be honest i don't really want to put out $61 when i plan to get a newer better psu in 6 months. I'd hate to just throw $36 down the drain as well but that would hurt me a lot less then $61. And what really sucks is my lack of knowledge on psu's.
I know that 80% of 400 is about 320w and 500 is 400w. 80% of 320 is 256w and 350 is 280w and 380 is 304w and my current system uses close to or about 300w so an 80% psu i would be pushing it at the 380 psu and the 400 psu. 450 psu would be 360w. So i'm trying to find the minimum powered psu for my system it be best to stay above the 400 right? Using http://extreme.outer...n.com/PSUEngine at 100% load it is 320w and at minimum it is 270w. So if that is right i would need above a 400 psu to be safe in case it reaches 100% max psu usage right?
My system runs:
amd athlon 64 x2 4400+ toledo
biostar tforce 6100-939 mobo
3 1 gig sticks of ddr2 pc 3200 ram (kingston blue)
1 hdd (7200 rpm westell or western can not remember been almost 5 years)
3 led 80mm case fans
1 120 mm led case fan
msi 6450 gpu
1 usb mouse
1 usb gaming controller
1 dvd/rw optical drive
That is my current system in a nut shell so what is the minimum psu i should be looking for? Am i right in assuming then that the minimum i should be looking for is above a 400 psu with 80+ certified? And knowing this how can it help narrow down the search?
Posted 27 September 2012 - 08:37 AM
Posted 27 September 2012 - 09:17 AM
I never plan to oc or do sli/crossfire and the only thing the psu will be needed for is a mobo 1 optical drive 1 hdd the ram the cpu my case fans 2 usb devices and ram and gpu with maybe some ram and gpu upgrades and hdd upgrades in the future. I'm just wanting to know that if i'm putting that much money out right now that i won't need to replace it later to be honest if you can understand that. I'm on a low income (very low) hence why i'm trying to search for the best possible solution. If spending a bit more now means i won't need to down the road awesome. But i do not see me spending roughly 50 bucks or more for some thing i'll need to replace in less then a year you know?
Posted 27 September 2012 - 09:51 AM
The best two suggestions that I can give you at the moment are either upgrade to a quality brand 500W PSU and cooling fan now or only replace the cooling fan now, see how that goes and if it works out ok leave upgrading the PSU until your budget will allow you to get the necessary, remember the PSU is what powers the heart of the computer and if it is weak the whole system will fall over.
Posted 27 September 2012 - 09:54 AM
A review on it:
$34.99 seems like a good psu and even on amazon not a single bad review so far and not many on newegg either http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817371045
So i'm seriously considering it. Would i need to replace this as well if i do the upgrades i have planned?
Also i never plan to spend more then $100 bucks on a gpu to be honest lol $150 would be pushing it.
Edited by Zolton33, 27 September 2012 - 09:56 AM.
Posted 27 September 2012 - 11:02 AM
Pros: - Very Quiet, Large Fan
- Antec Quality and Reliability, and 80 Plus Certified on the unit even though Newegg doesn't list it
- Handles a reasonably powerful system
Pros: True 450W, 80%+ efficiency (although it doesn't have the certs), all the connectors you'll need (only 1 6 pin so if your card needs more than that for power it does come with a 6 pin to molex converter), very quiet, perfect fit for my Antec One case.
Requires a minimum 400W output PSU http://www.amazon.co.../?tag=pcpapi-20 full system requirements @ http://www.sapphiret...pid=1501&leg=0#
Posted 27 September 2012 - 11:26 AM
Posted 27 September 2012 - 12:04 PM
The extra 30W will cover your additional case fans.
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