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#16
Dastabah

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How exactly do I connect my monitor to the computer if the video is in the cpu? Does the new mobo have its' own socket as well?

also, the mobo says Multi-VGA Output : D-Sub, DVI-D and HDMI. If my monitor is still VGA will it work? It's a blue connection with a relatively small # of pins. I have an adapter picked out for $5 but I don't know if I need it or not.

Edited by Dastabah, 22 October 2012 - 01:57 PM.

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It would connect via the motherboards rear panel. And most motherboards rear panels have multiple monitor hook up choices. And that mobo has vga hook ups i just checked. Look at its pictures and you will see they have all its rear panel mapped. http://www.newegg.co...ID=3938566&SID=
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alright, so this is what I'm getting as of right now. final thoughts/foreseeable issues?

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Gday.
On Newegg, special, Pre order Windows8 Full version 64bit OEM and use a Promo code, save $30. = $69 Free Shipping. Depending on where you live, state taxes may apply.
> http://www.newegg.co...Category/ID-368
Enter Promo code at check out, > http://promotions.ne...Tpk=Promo codes
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Thanks for the heads-up. Not sure how I feel about W8 yet so I'll just stick with 7.

So far both reviews posted complained about the sound card. So it seems like I'll need another one with an FM2 socket.


http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813135328
picked that one. Seems fine. No reviews though. ahhh

Found out my current ram was only 531 MHZ each, for 6gb dual channel. So I picked kingston
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820239230

Edited by Dastabah, 23 October 2012 - 03:47 PM.

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That is the first time I have heard of, or seen, the Realtek ALC892 get such a negative review. I would be more inclined to think there is something else wrong with the reviewers configuration.
The Asrock board is a better product and has better integrated sound with 5 ports vs 3 ports + better features, I consider the ECS and Biostar real budget boards, hence the price. side by side comparison. > http://www.newegg.co...5E13-135-328-TS

Your selected RAM is server memory (registered), not supported on the Motherboard.

Please decide on the Mobo, then we can suggest RAM.

Edited by iammykyl, 24 October 2012 - 03:05 AM.

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http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820231585 2400 ram 69.99

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820104315 2133 ram 49.99

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820231550 1866 ram 47.99

I would go with the 2400 as the a10-5800k really shines betterwith higher clocked ram. And i would not believe all reviews you see on there. They are fromregular people with no way of knowing their knowledge of pc's let alone their knowledge of what really is the problem to be honest. They could of had the wrong drivers installed for all we know (32 bit as opposed to 64 and vice versa).
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I picked the old mobo and used the ram you recommended. 2133 just b/c I don't really need that kind of speed atm and can upgrade anytime. If the sound card still gives issues I'll send it in or just buy a sound card. But it only supports 2133 when you overclock it. And I'm using the fans that came with it so not sure if I should attempt it or if it has a smart OC feature?

The 2133 RAM has a higher latency which I thought was worse. B/C if you do the multiplier you get 207 for the 1866 and 193 for the 2133, so I don't know if OC is still worth it

also the case is
18.50" x 7.48" x 17.08"

the mobo is
12" x 8.8"

and my psu is
5.91" x 5.52" x 3.39"

is this too tight a fit or am I fine?

Edited by Dastabah, 24 October 2012 - 03:18 PM.

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Your case will fit everthing in, wit some room to spare. I have upgraded to the next ver. to give you USB 3.0, (backward compatible) on the front panel, +
1 x e-SATA, Audio In/Out(AC97, HD) + mic.


I have also selected RAM from the memory support list, see below^^.

PSU, Not a very good unit, not very good reviews, unstable power, not 80% certified, This selected by
Zolton33 > http://www.newegg.co...ID=3938566&SID=



CPU, O/c. Auto controlled in software utility, select or press a button, included on the Motherboartd installation CD. Each manufacturer provides a *safre* overclock you can use at any time. If you want to go beyond what is provided you must change settings in the BIOS.

GPU O/c. Provided with the graphics driver installation CD.

RAM, O/c. Initially controlled by the CPU. RAM speed natively supported by the selected AMD processors is

1866/1600/1333/1066 non-ECC, un-buffered memory. It interrogates the RAM and sets the correct speed and timing from information contained in the stick/s. If you have RAM installed at 1333, and it is XMP/AMP capable, there will be one or more profiles for higher speed setting stored in the RAM, which you can enable. If you want to over-clock above the native supported speed, you must alter setting in the BIOS. If you search for, How to over-clock my RAM, you will see that it is fairly complicated, and gives you no guarantee of the system being stable or the RAM may not over-clock and/or boot at all.

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Although we're only using two modules for this specific test, the Asrock FM2A75 Pro4 motherboard serving as our test platform won't boot above DDR3-1866, limiting the scope of our early testing. Attempt to run at DDR3-2133 using manual parameters, or DDR3-2800/2666 using pre-programmed settings simply wouldn't work." Source, > http://www.tomshardw...5400k,3224.html


^^Your RAM, where possible, should be selected from tested modules on the manufacturers QVL or RAM support list. You can use other RAM, provided it meets the correct specifications > http://www.asrock.co....asp?cat=Memory


My take on over-clocking for a general purpose or gaming rig, hardly worth the effort for the usually minimal gains. It is worth doing on a workstion type build as it can make a significant difference to performance , but takes an awful lot of effort. staying within what is provided through the software and utilities, you are not likely to damage the rig. If you are determined to push the machine to the max, probable voiding all your warranties, go for it, but at your own risk

> http://pcpartpicker.com/p/lsUx $373. without taxes.
Not included, OS, Optical drive, also talk about storage. I do no think you need a SSD.
What brand/model of HHD are you using at the moment? Would you be able to use in in the new build?

Edited by iammykyl, 26 October 2012 - 12:45 AM.

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Yeah I didn't really want to overclock in the first place since I'm just now building my first comp. Don't want to over-complicate with OC'ing as well. I only asked b/c Zolton said that the higher RAM would make the processor peak a lot better. My current HDD is listed in OP as a 977GB SAMSUNG SAMSUNG HD103SM (SATA). It has a lot of data on it so I'm purchasing a SSD just to see if the comp will boot and then I will put the HDD in its place. Or just have two drives. The reason is that this is a shared computer and while I am backing up the data, it is important to have the drive intact. It was a cheap SSD so I figured why not. I'm taking the optical drive from the old computer. HL-DT-ST DVD+-RW GH70N. As well as having purchased windows 7 ultimate a few days ago. they went on sale at office depot since windows 8 is being released. I just bought the disc not an OEM, which I don't even think you can buy so I think I should be fine.

Which PSU are you saying is better?

Zolton's? http://www.newegg.co...ID=3938566&SID=

or mine?
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817171031

Seems the one I picked had a lot of issues later on whereas the only bad ones from Zolton's were DOAs

EDIT: Guys I'm worried. I just looked up a mobo that has the same video inputs as the mobo I'm getting. It's this one: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813157334

and one of the reviewers said that his monitor has VGA and the DVI-D can't read them. I have this monitor atm. http://www.compusa.c....asp?EdpNo=3268
Want to make sure about this before I go and have to purchase a $100-200 monitor as well.

Edited by Dastabah, 26 October 2012 - 12:29 PM.

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SSD. If you install the SSD you would need to put windows on so it could boot, if you then disconnected it and connecting up the old HDD, you computer would probable not boot as the OS would have loaded the wrong drivers for the new hardware. You could leve the SSD in, install the HDD, and backup, but,

The reason is that this is a shared computer and while I am backing up the data, it is important to have the drive intact.

Looks like you have heaps of DATA to backup to the SSD and it being quite small, you may run out of space or working room. This would be my solution.
Install one new HDD, ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB > http://www.newegg.co...N82E16822148840.
During installation, set up 2 portions, install the OS, etc, on the first partition. Install the old HDD and back up all the DATA you want to the second partition on the new drive. Format the old drive and create a DAT partition and a backup partition. Copy your save DATA from the new drive to the old drive. Delete the backup partition on the new drive.
Not as complicated as it appears.

This is the PSU I think you should get, >

http://www.newegg.co...ID=3938566&SID=.

and one of the reviewers said that his monitor has VGA and the DVI-D can't read them. I have this monitor atm. http://www.compusa.c...?EdpNo=3268Want to make sure about this before I go and have to purchase a $100-200 monitor as well.


He is trying to connect to two monitors. At the end he say's ". So, now I must either purchase a new monitor if I want to support 2 screens or just use 1 screen."


If you look at your selectyed board, > http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813157334 it has a blue VGA port which is the same as the one yu are using on the Dell, 560.
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oh good. I have about 300 gb of data on my current HDD. If I install the SSD, boot windows, etc. THEN install my HDD in a secondary port, will this keep all the data intact or do I have to format the drive because the HDD has the drivers for the current computer on it? I have an external harddrive that can hold all the important things. I just want to know if formatting is essential since it's not a main drive, but windows 7 is installed on this HDD and it's oem so it might conflict.
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Zolton, I saw you post on another topic about a cyber sale. Will this apply to parts as well or just prebuilt laptops/desktops. In the former case, would it be worth waiting a month before I purchase?
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Having 2 instances of the OS on 2 different drives can cause problems so best practice is to have the SSD with the OS installed © and use the HDD (usually E) for DATA storage.
Backup any and all DATA you want to keep to your external back up drive. If you have any special program installation files that would be compatible with your new OS ver, (not installed programs), back them up as well.
You can install your old drive in your new build but, do not connect it until you have your new system up and running.

Then, optimize the SSD > wipe and format the HDD, > optimize the new windows install on the SSD, > restore your DATA.

Here are two tutorial on the subject,
W7, > http://www.overclock...e-for-ssds-hdds
W8, > http://www.overclock...e-for-ssds-hdds
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I have purchased everything and am awaiting their arrival. Wish me luck and I will keep this thread updated as questions arise as I am sure they will.
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