[phillpower2]

You are welcome Vainiu

NB: If you look at previous build topics that iammykyl and I have worked on together you will see that our initial parts lists are never that far apart

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Is this to expensive, think it comes to abou t$175 US. > http://www.kilobaita...L_660&ID=426866

[iammykyl]

Is this to expensive, think it comes to abou t$175 US. > http://www.kilobaita...L_660&ID=426866

[iammykyl]

Phillpower2

[phillpower2]

Phillpower2

[Vainius]

Hello guys, I have one more question for this old topic.
I wanted to ask about motherboard AsRock Z77 Extreme4. I,ve been reading and I thought about AsRock Z77 Extreme4-M which is micro ATX. In my country(Lithuania) It seems that I could save arround 30-40 dollars If I choose Micro ATX. Is it worth buying micro? What about main differences between these both cards? Would I lose performance or would lower my overclocking ability with Micro ATX?

[phillpower2]

Downsides to mATX boards include limited room for modern video and other add on cards and heat issues, they are fine for a HTPC set up but I do not recommend them for a machine that will generate a lot of heat such as when gaming or rendering video and the like.

[Vainius]

Downsides to mATX boards include limited room for modern video and other add on cards and heat issues, they are fine for a HTPC set up but I do not recommend them for a machine that will generate a lot of heat such as when gaming or rendering video and the like.

Thanks for reply. Z77 Extreme 4 it is then Also what do you think about this Cooler(Cooler Master Hyper 212 X Army)? I got this as a present. Dont know how will it perform. Maybe I should exchange it because I have the check? It's quite cheap but is supposed to be better cooler than Hyper 212 Evo.

[phillpower2]

You are welcome

I know iammykyl has already advised you on using an aftermarket cooler but just to reiterate below is my canned text;

Your aftermarket cooler, a very important thing I must make you aware of is that you do not need the additional heatsink and CPU fan and if you did use it you would void your CPU warranty both AMD and Intel are clear on this, see below;

AMD;
This Limited Warranty shall be null and void if the AMD microprocessor which is the subject of this Limited Warranty is used with any heatsink/fan other than the one provided herewith.
Full AMD article @ http://support.amd.c...earLimited.aspx

Intel;
damage to the Product due to external causes, including accident, problems with electrical power, abnormal electrical, mechanical or environmental conditions, usage not in accordance with product instructions, misuse, neglect, alteration, repair, improper installation, or improper testing;
Full Intel article available @ http://www.intel.com...b/cs-009862.htm

Give the stock cooler a try and if your not happy then swap out the cooler, you may also wish to consider the Intel warranty for OCers http://click.intel.com/tuningplan/

[Vainius]

Hello again, You are probably getting tired from my questions, and im sorry Which one PSU is better? Corsair TX 650 V2 Or ANTEC HCG 520W? I found that in my country Corsair costs about 115 dollars and Antec does 90. Should I try to save a few bucks or antec isnt worth saving and I should go for Corsair?
Thanks again

[iammykyl]

No, we don't tire of answering question, we want the best build for you with the budget you have available,

PSU. They are both equally as good as each other but the final choice is decided when all parts are selected, then we will know the correct wattage needed taking into account some leeway for additional upgrades and over-clocking.

We need to clarify the parts list again, as I see from post #5, you already have RAM. (i missed that) So you need,
Case.
CPU.
MB. (Asrock Extreme4 ATX)
GPU.
HDD/s
PSU. (Antec HG 520 or Corsair TX 650 V2)
Optical Drive>
******************
Please give the RAM details so we can check it is compatible with the MB selected.
What is now your current budget?

[Vainius]

No, we don't tire of answering question, we want the best build for you with the budget you have available,

PSU. They are both equally as good as each other but the final choice is decided when all parts are selected, then we will know the correct wattage needed taking into account some leeway for additional upgrades and over-clocking.

We need to clarify the parts list again, as I see from post #5, you already have RAM. (i missed that) So you need,
Case.
CPU.
MB. (Asrock Extreme4 ATX)
GPU.
HDD/s
PSU. (Antec HG 520 or Corsair TX 650 V2)
Optical Drive>
******************
Please give the RAM details so we can check it is compatible with the MB selected.
What is now your current budget?

Found a nice case for 30 dollars. Cooler Master Elite k350
Cpu: i5 3570k
SSD: Samsung 840 Series 120GB
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 7200RPM
GPU Evga Gtx 660 2Gb. But GPU decesion is not final. im still thinking about GPU.
RAM: Corsair Vengeance CML16GX3M4A1600C9
My budget is arround 750 dollars. But in Lithuania prices are quite different. Some are cheaper and some are more expensive.

Edit: Forgot to mention optical drive which is Writemaster dvd-writer And I already have it

Edited by Vainius, 20 March 2013 - 08:51 AM.

[phillpower2]

The case is inexpensive as it is made of plastic and has only one 120mm cooling front mounted fan.
As it is made of plastic it will hold more heat so as a minimum I suggest that you add a 120mm case rear exhaust fan to expel the hot air http://www.amazon.co...e/dp/B002JL6G8S

[Vainius]

The case is inexpensive as it is made of plastic and has only one 120mm cooling front mounted fan.
As it is made of plastic it will hold more heat so as a minimum I suggest that you add a 120mm case rear exhaust fan to expel the hot air http://www.amazon.co...e/dp/B002JL6G8S

And what about bottom and side fans? Should I also get them?

[phillpower2]

A side fan would be a good addition when you are ready but the bottom fan would depend on 1: the placement of the computer, if the air would be expelled freely then yes add a bottom case fan, 2: but only if you are getting high temps.

[iammykyl]

I would go for a better quality case, a cheap case will have cheap noisy fans and you would need to buy extra ones, putting the cost up.

Your budget is to small to get you a great performing build, because of the costs of parts where you are. Please consider this proposal.

What I would like to see you build, > http://pcpartpicker.com/p/LcAb + another HDD or SSD added later.
Even changing to an i5 and a cheaper case will not get a decent GPU. NB. wattage, the antec 520 w will be OK.

This will give you a functioning great core machine, adding a video card as soon as you can afford the one you want. > http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Lcw0
+ HDD/s as you need them, or a SSD.
Case > http://www.kilobaita...L_402&ID=466462
On the CPP page, if you change the location, the prices and availabilities for the country you select will change.