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Dawsonluke9

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So im going to build a computer, but im not very experienced and dont know what all the numbers mean, im pretty big inot computers tho and really big into gaming so im getting some of the best stuff i can, just wanted to know if theres anytrhing i might be missing or somthing i dont know much about that i dont need, or maybe i need more. i dont really know. just if you could look over This and any input would be helpfull. Thanks
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Hello Dawsonluke9

Please note that the guidance that I offer is in no way intended as criticism of your choice/list of parts :thumbsup:

Your selection of parts is extremely expensive and unfortunately more is not always better as is the case here, some pointers for you;

You do not need and will not get the benefit of an i7 CPU when gaming, i7 CPUs are used by such people as 3D modellers, games programmers and professional video renderers etc, the i5 3570 CPU is more than up to the task and should you wish to overclock your build the i5 3570k is the way to go.

The CPU cooler is also not necessary as the cooler provided has been tested over and above the safe footprint of the CPU + using anything other than the heatsink and cooling fan provided will invalidate the CPUs 3yr warranty, please see my canned text below;

Your aftermarket cooler, a very important thing I must make you aware of is that you do not need the additional heatsink and CPU fan and if you did use it you would void your CPU warranty both AMD and Intel are clear on this, see below;

AMD;
This Limited Warranty shall be null and void if the AMD microprocessor which is the subject of this Limited Warranty is used with any heatsink/fan other than the one provided herewith.
Full AMD article @ http://support.amd.c...earLimited.aspx

Intel;
damage to the Product due to external causes, including accident, problems with electrical power, abnormal electrical, mechanical or environmental conditions, usage not in accordance with product instructions, misuse, neglect, alteration, repair, improper installation, or improper testing;
Full Intel article available @ http://www.intel.com...b/cs-009862.htm



8GB of Ram is the most that most users will use and at present I am not aware of any game that requires a minimum of 8GB of Ram please also refer back to the CPU guidance for people who would use more than 8GB of Ram.

The above are just examples of how you can lower the cost of the build without compromising your game play, I would be more than happy to put together an alternative list of parts for you to look over if it helps.
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That would be great if you could do that, i would be extremely thankful.
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Let us know what you think and ask any questions that you may have as to why any items have been suggested http://pcpartpicker....wer2/saved/1ZcC
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Why the 760 instead of 2 780s? arent graphice really important and i want somthing that can max everything out for awhile not that'll have to run normal in a year.

For the harddrives i wanted the ssd for windown the 500+ fast harddrive for only my games and the big bulk harddrive for movies pictures and everything else

do i not need a sound card or wired network adapter?

also i probably wont be getting screens right now anyways because they are pretty expensive and the 2 screens i have now are fine.

also i play on running 3 monitors if that makes a diffrence in what you would suggest.


sorry if this looks rushed but i typed abunch up and then i hit the wrong button and lost it all :P

Thanks abunch for helping!

Edited by Dawsonluke9, 18 July 2013 - 01:33 PM.

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Why the 760 instead of 2 780s?

You are paying way over the top for one card let alone two, the card that I suggested is capable of running up to four screens http://www.gigabyte....spx?pid=4663#ov

Video card benchmarks http://www.videocard...h_end_gpus.html

For the harddrives i wanted the ssd for windown the 500+ fast harddrive for only my games and the big bulk harddrive for movies pictures and everything else

An SSD for the OS is what I always suggest + I also recommend a minimum of 120 - 128GB SSD as the capacity allows you to also have your favourite games on it, I never suggest larger HDDs as they take more to back up + 3TB of data is an awful lot of information to lose should the HDD fail, larger capacity HDDs often do, I recommend 1TB HDDs are used as they are more practical yet more affordable when adding additional drives further down the road.

do i not need a sound card or wired network adapter?

Most MBs today have very good integrated 7.1 audio chips and you would need to spend a silly amount of money to get a better sounding add on audio card + you would also need to purchase a high end set of speakers to get the better quality sound you have paid for.
If you read the specifications for the MB that I have suggested you will see that it has built in wifi (Wi-Fi Go)http://www.amazon.co.../?tag=pcpapi-20 :thumbsup:

You are welcome BTW :)
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so i did abit of changing and made it cost a fair bit less without compromising on the big things i wanted. i do still have questions, like the 10000rpm 1T harddrive that was 99 but there was one with the exact same stats but it was 250 ish the only diffrence was one was a WD velociraptor(250) and the other was the velociraptor(99) why is that?

almost forgot link http://pcpartpicker....uke9/saved/1Zfo

Edited by Dawsonluke9, 18 July 2013 - 03:02 PM.

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I am no tech guy so I do apologize for any "duh" questions..


Hello, I was looking around and found this topic and was wondering about the graphics cards. Without including prices, what is the best configuration of 2 graphics cards out there? Also, would two 780's be better than two 760's? Or would two 760's be better than a single 780? (Talking in terms of gaming and using multiple screens)
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so i did abit of changing and made it cost a fair bit less without compromising on the big things i wanted. i do still have questions, like the 10000rpm 1T harddrive that was 99 but there was one with the exact same stats but it was 250 ish the only diffrence was one was a WD velociraptor(250) and the other was the velociraptor(99) why is that?

almost forgot link http://pcpartpicker....uke9/saved/1Zfo


Have you got a link to the two HDDs so we can take a look.

You are still spending money for no good reason and you will not get any more benefit, I have explained why and the final choice is yours but please do not disregard the compatibility issue regarding the Ram that you have chosen;

Compatibility Notes
Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory operating voltage of 1.65V exceeds the Intel Haswell CPU recommended maximum of 1.5V+5% (1.575V). This memory module may run at a reduced clock rate to meet the 1.5V voltage recommendation, or may require running at a voltage greater than the Intel recommended maximum.


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Please do not post inside another members topic, your computer issue/s may appear to be the same but be completely different + your request for assistance may be overlooked as staff and members will check a topic that has yet to receive a reply but they may not if it appears that assistance has already been offered to the OP.
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http://pcpartpicker....rive-wd1000chtz
http://pcpartpicker....rive-wd1000dhtz


What does the compatibility issue mean in layman terms?

http://pcpartpicker....uke9/saved/1Zfo updated with no issue..

Edited by Dawsonluke9, 18 July 2013 - 03:59 PM.

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The WD1000DHTZ 1TB has more advanced features than the WD1000CHTZ 1TB one of which is the IcePack mounting frame.

What does the compatibility issue mean in layman terms?

What it means is "you are advised not to purchase this Ram as you will not get what you are paying for" this is because the Ram will not be able to run as fast as it is capable of because of the low powered processor that you have chosen.
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