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Going to start a new build soon. Have learned so much thanks to GTG!

Looking for opinions on the following potential MB/CPU combinations.

#1 LGA 1155
MB - GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD3H http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813128544
CPU - Intel Core i5-3570K http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819116504

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#2 LGA 1150
MB - GIGABYTE GA-Z87X-UD3H http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813128592
CPU - Intel Core i5-4670K http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819116899

There is only a $35 difference between #1 and #2, however it seems that #2 would give me the best potential to upgrade in the future. I have not been into gaming that much in the past, but would like a system that is capable of doing that just in case. For now, the primary use of the PC is a combination of home and work. Pretty typical PC usage for the most part.
I know the LGA 1150 MB will take a 4th gen CPU vs. the LGA 1155 2nd/3rd gen CPU. The price difference between the two is negligible, but I'm curious to know if the performance between the two would be negligible as well, or significant? I have looked here http://www.cpu-world...5_i5-4670K.html to compare the two CPUs and both seem very comparable, of course that conclusion is based on my limited knowledge. The build I just completed for my wife blows away the old P4 PC I am using now. Her MB has a i5-2500k CPU installed and the PC is exceptionally fast compared to what we were used to. It may be that I could settle for a i5-2500k, or would the i5-3750k and/or i5-4670k be that much better?
From what I have read, the i7 CPUs are a bit of overkill based on my PC usage, so no need to go that direction. Just trying to determine the biggest bang for my buck. My budget is $700 or so, and that is without installing a GPU, which I can always do later.
Thanks for your opinions, recommendations, etc. :)
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Two great CPUs but having checked the Newegg feedback tab for both MBs I would not choose either of them :(

The Haswell may be the newer CPU but I prefer the Ivy Bridge for it`s lower power consumption, to reduce costs unless you plan on overclocking the CPU you could use the none k version of the processor.

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True, while Gigabyte motherboards are great their Z77 and Z87 are a tossup.
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Two great CPUs but having checked the Newegg feedback tab for both MBs I would not choose either of them :(

The Haswell may be the newer CPU but I prefer the Ivy Bridge for it`s lower power consumption, to reduce costs unless you plan on overclocking the CPU you could use the none k version of the processor.

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Thanks for the reply. I did read some of the feedback for both MBs, but felt 4/5 eggs was still pretty good. However, I did have some misgivings about them as well. So much so that I looked at some additional choices and thought this http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813131981 might be a better choice. Being so new at this, I have much to learn when considering all the factors that come into play for building a system that is the most practical for my needs.
I know power consumption is important. My thought behind the LGA 1150 Z87/i5-4670k build was that it would better futureproof my potential/unforeseen needs rather than the LGA 1155 Z77/i5-3570k build. Thoughts?
I am not planning to overclock the CPU. I have not researched overclocking enough to understand all the reasons why to do it, but I believe that for my purposes it is not necessary.
My choice of MBs was based on the good feedback I've seen online about Gigabyte and ASUS products. I didn't think/realize Biostar was a comparable brand. I like the price of the Biostar MB you recommended. I noticed it has been d/c on Newegg's website, but obviously still available through other online sellers. In comparing the ASUS MB mentioned above to the Biostar MB you recommended, would you still find in favor of Biostar?
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True, while Gigabyte motherboards are great their Z77 and Z87 are a tossup.


As I have done some additional research this morning, your reply seems to be the general consensus. I'm curious if these problems are specific to Gigabyte Z77/Z87 MBs, or the Z77/Z78 platform altogether regardless of manufacturer.
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One thing about reading the reviews is the timeline. Like for a period of months there was a bad batch going and a lot of returns. I look for that on any components and I have a pretty good idea when or what to buy. No manufacturers want to put out bad products but sometimes a batch gets through their QC that needed addressing.

Then again there's some that are just piss poor makers and we try to be aware of 'em and avoid 'em.
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One thing about reading the reviews is the timeline. Like for a period of months there was a bad batch going and a lot of returns. I look for that on any components and I have a pretty good idea when or what to buy. No manufacturers want to put out bad products but sometimes a batch gets through their QC that needed addressing.


Excellent point!
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True, while Gigabyte motherboards are great their Z77 and Z87 are a tossup.


As I have done some additional research this morning, your reply seems to be the general consensus. I'm curious if these problems are specific to Gigabyte Z77/Z87 MBs, or the Z77/Z78 platform altogether regardless of manufacturer.


This is from a builder who worked with the Gigabyte Z77 and Z78 and he said he had to return too many of them. As a result he hated Gigabyte as a general. I tried to tell him he went through a bad batch and it's probably addressed to its problems. Why I said it's a tossup for now. I don't know if it's where Gigabyte got their chipsets from or a design flaw in the motherboards.

I went through tons of motherboards and it seems that almost every maker have a bum model or two.
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The Biostar only supports the Ivy Bridge and so is no good for the Haswell CPU that you favour, as you do not plan on overclocking you can save $5 by going for the stock 4670.

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The Biostar only supports the Ivy Bridge and so is no good for the Haswell CPU that you favour, as you do not plan on overclocking you can save $5 by going for the stock 4670.

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That looks like a great MB at a great price. Thank you!
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You are welcome :thumbsup:

Some info on the MB Here
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Yep, the builder I was talking about recommends Asrock motherboards when it comes to Z77 or Z87.

Edited by Brazened, 27 October 2013 - 02:43 PM.

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Gday.
I refer to this site occasionally, > http://www.hardware....mposants-8.html As noted, producing one bad model can really adversely affect your placement in a chart.
Would be interesting if someone did the math, average chance of each component in a build, then totalled to give the fail rate of a build, we might then decide to play with Lego.
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Hmm... is there an English version of that site?
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Yep, the builder I was talking about recommends Asrock motherboards when it comes to Z77 or Z87.


Looks like I'm getting pointed in the right direction for a MB. Appreciate it :thumbsup:
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