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One more thing, if in future I put up the 7 fans and a water cooling unit, will the Phantom 410 be a good case for overclocking and SLI/CrossfireX? Or is it that full towers are recommended to give th components that breathing space?
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The LG 22EN33T carries no DVI-D cord, then I dunno am I being too much of a stickler for in-built speakers on the speakers, and thanks that article clarified my all my doubts - I don't need an IPS, a TN is ok.

DCF matters but what's with Standard 3000:1 and no competing mention by LG? Ok wait I just checked a few other sites LG gives a Standard 1000:1 contrast.

Ok BenQ wins on Standard Contrast and LG on Dynamic Contrast. Which one wins is perhaps not the wisest question I guess, the idea should be perhaps balancing them also which relative use of either.

More confusing is the fact that BenQ claims its Standard Contrast gives lifelike images and LG says its the Dynamic Contrast..!! :wacko:
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Gday.
Yes, will be OK to use RAM from this page > http://www.corsair.c.../vengeance.html
and this page, > http://www.corsair.c.../vengeance.html

From this link a page will open showing your IP addrtess, if you see a security prompt, click allow. research from the menu on the left.
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Gday.

I guess I sounded a little overbearing(or perhaps a little too excited) in the last few days. Sorry but my sinus trouble was onlu getting worse andI get impatient during such periods.

Ok now there's this problem: I can't seem to confirm whether Cooler Master 550W Silent Pro Gold is EuP/ErP? I did my research on what those standards are, thanks but unless I confirm it on my PSU here, I can't take that ASRock board because it needs an EuP/ErP PSU.
Do you know of some place to confirm it? Because even the warranty info and other documents accompanying the PSU have no mention.
Oh and I checked its Haswell certified, so no issues on the i5-4670 selection.

Ok, I take up the responsibility to select the monitor and let you know, I perhaps need to make sure just a bit more.
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Ok now as I have found out mention of EuP/ErP is dificult to find. Here're two links that make me think it meets the standards:

http://uk.hardware.i...on-without-load

http://www.asrock.co...e/EuP/index.asp

Am I interpreting it correctly that the cooler Master 550W is meeting the EuP/ErP standard?
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By the way thanks for that link regarding the blacklist removal. I have started work on that.
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if in future I put up the 7 fans and a water cooling unit, will the Phantom 410 be a good case for overclocking and SLI/CrossfireX? Or is it that full towers are recommended to give th components that breathing space?

You could use the case but I would get one with better cooling because, with 7 fans, water cooling, fan and pump, 2 video cards, it would be like sitting next to an aeroplane.


Am I interpreting it correctly that the cooler Master 550W is meeting the EuP/ErP standard?

Yes. A Haswell certified PSU has an even better power saving. A MB that is EuP/ErP will still work with a PSU that is not EuP/ErP Certified, just means you will not achieve the power saving.

> http://www.modders-i...supply-mystery/



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Ok I'm done selecting and making a final decision:

MoBo: ASUS Z87-A ( I'm in doubt about having to get extra cables, connectors, I guess I can't afford risking an ASRock and perhaps the Vortez reviews also clearly state Z87-A is better than Z87Extreme4)

Monitor: LG 24EA53VQ
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Thanks for the update.
Download your MB user manual as it is often more up to date than the one in the box and you can familiarise yourself with it. > http://www.asus.com/...s/Z87A/#support
includes 2 x SATA 6Gb/s cable(s) so enough for one HDD and one optical drive. All other cables needed for the build are with the PSU. The board does not have any diagnostic LED or included system beeper so advise buying one like this, > http://www.cwc-group.com/casp.html
The G2G How to build, Thanks to Troy,and Artellos.> http://www.geekstogo...r-own-computer/
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GDay.

Getting hands on a Debug LED and installing. I'm a little skeptical about my abilities to manage something like that. Its my first build and perhaps included ones would be better?

http://www.msi.com/p...G.html#overview

has it included, got a Vortez Gold against Vortez Silver for the Z87-A. Also the RMA guys are the same Digicare here in India. I guess the extra 2k rupees will save me the headache. I'd like to have the OCGenie4 too, if I get myself a Kchip later or something.

http://www.flipkart....BDDHTMWAFM52WGX

vs

http://www.flipkart....ExtParam1=buyt1

I was at first worries about the loose quality control claims about MSI, then ASRock - open box, too many bent pin models ending up in customers hands- and now I can't stand ASUS for keeping this LED out except for just perhaps ultra high-end - I think the Z87-Deluxe maybe has it.

One thing that concerns me do the MemOk,TPU, EPU,etc. switches, do they have an advantage, coz that wasn't covered by Vortez. This is perhaps the last point, I'll make the purchases this week. Shouldn't have any questions after this one about MoBos.

And you are really giving an ok for the monitor right?
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Also I do need a DVI-D cable for installing the monitor, right. It comes only with VGA. And of course no need for an HDMI cable?
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Gday ArionIV>

Getting hands on a Debug LED and installing. I'm a little skeptical about my abilities to manage something like that. Its my first build and perhaps included ones would be better?


Sorry, but I think you have misunderstood me. I was not suggesting installing a Diagnostic LED like the ones included on higher end board. I was suggesting a Mini buzzer/beeper which will plug into any MB, like this one, > http://www.ebay.in/i...=1#ht_726wt_944
I prefer a beeper to a LED, it gives an audible beep code if something is wrong with hardware when you start the computer. A LED is hidden away inside the case, so if the computer fails to start, you have to take off the side of the case to get the visual code from the LED display.

I urge you not to change the selected ASUS Z87-A MB, it does everything required and will support future hardware upgrades. Buying a more expensive board with more bells and whistles will not make your games play better or increase application performance. A button on the MB to reset the BIOS, (inside the case) can be done by pressing Del at Boot, then pressing F9, then pressing F10, then pressing Enter. Constant use of a CPU/RAM with a high overclock will wear it out quicker than running it as designed, it's mostly for bragging rights.


Sorry to be an old fart and come on a bit strong but I do want you to get value for you money and a good solid system.

I'll really be using it for everyday computing and for learning programming IN MATLAB(intensive on specs i heard),C,C++,etc.
No, I'm not looking forward to any high quality gaming experience.


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One thing that concerns me do the MemOk,TPU, EPU,etc. switches, do they have an advantage,


Yes, especially the MemOk.


Yes to the monitor, comes with D-Sub and DVI-D cables, > http://www.lg.com/hk...ors/lg-24EA53VQ



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Gday.

Oh no, I do understand that given my limited knowledge you must stop me from going overboard with certain things. And again its trust, I have placed all of mine completely in your knowledge and experience.

And really I got it wrong, would have been hard explaining the MSI purchase, Pa would have thought I was just trying to get my hands on gaming hardware rather than an efficient build. Right so I stay put on Z-87-A, actually the board suits me also in terms of the length of the return period given by the seller.

Ok so if it comes with the D-Sub and DVI-D I'm done, great, no HDMI needed of course.

Only doubt, the cheap price, good enough? Or are these those kind of parts which are both essential and inexpensive?

Oh yes, there''s this part about building that I see no mention of, how to get the onboard USB ports on to the front? I hear about some need for sonnections, that they are headers and you have to attach ports? What seems more confusing to me is that some places they mention them as front ports as if they get readily fixed into slots on cases.

I have two USB ports on my current old MoBo it seems given that I se them up front in the middle and bottom region.
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Geez, I just can't seem to put all things in one post. Right, now, the monitor has a wobbly stand so people say. I of course am a sort of person whose hands never end up anywhere near the monitor when at work, got a sturdy table too.

Just in case it troubles me, how should I rectify it? Is there a way, like attaching some mun or stand as in cases of other monitors I was reading about?
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OK, so we are back on track.

Only doubt, the cheap price, good enough? Or are these those kind of parts which are both essential and inexpensive?


If you are referring to the Mini Buzzer, it is a very simple part so should not be expensive, can buy it here for $1.75

how to get the onboard USB ports on to the front?


It is one of the cables fixed inside the case, and you plug it into a socket on the MB. Instructions in the MB Manual together with audio, switches and indicator LEDs.


Many monitor stands are bit shakey, like mine, but if you have a solid desk, the do not move or shake/tremble when typing or gaming. if you do get a second monitor later you can get a duel stand. This page is just for demo, not for prices, > http://www.multi-mon...ands_s/5140.htm

A tip, I should have given you long ago. If you have made a post and we have not yet replied, you can add to that post by clicking on the Edit button, and when finished click on Submit Modified.


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