[smky143]

Before I get started on this I wanted to see what you guys think about this. Yea I know its not AMD though.

http://www.tigerdire...1428524&CatId=0

http://www.tigerdire...=235452&CatId=0

http://www.tigerdire...p?EdpNo=1176830

http://www.tigerdire...p?EdpNo=1188791

http://www.tigerdire...1244482&CatId=0

http://www.tigerdire...=986325&CatId=0

Edited by smky143, 10 June 2005 - 06:43 AM.

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couple of suggestions.
that board is using the intel 478 pin socket. nothing wrong with that, but intels new standard is the 775 pin. getting a board/cpu with that will help ensure better upgrade capability later on.

would also think about getting a board with PCI express. the improvement over AGP is a big step, and PCIE video cards are usually a little cheaper!

if you want to do lots of gaming, consider moving up to a 6600GT. a PCIE version of that card sells for around $160 and up.

your ram choice wasnt available anymore...go with the good brands, like kingston, corsair, crucial, OCZ. whatever motherboard you go with, check the manufacturers site for a list of approved ram, and you wont go wrong.

also you will need to buy a power supply. again, go with the big brands, they make quality psu that deliver rated power and dont burn out quick. get 450+ watts now, it will last through the next couple upgrade cycles. antec, thermaltake, enermax are all good.

hope that helps!

[audioboy]

couple of suggestions.
that board is using the intel 478 pin socket. nothing wrong with that, but intels new standard is the 775 pin. getting a board/cpu with that will help ensure better upgrade capability later on.

would also think about getting a board with PCI express. the improvement over AGP is a big step, and PCIE video cards are usually a little cheaper!

if you want to do lots of gaming, consider moving up to a 6600GT. a PCIE version of that card sells for around $160 and up.

your ram choice wasnt available anymore...go with the good brands, like kingston, corsair, crucial, OCZ. whatever motherboard you go with, check the manufacturers site for a list of approved ram, and you wont go wrong.

also you will need to buy a power supply. again, go with the big brands, they make quality psu that deliver rated power and dont burn out quick. get 450+ watts now, it will last through the next couple upgrade cycles. antec, thermaltake, enermax are all good.

hope that helps!

[hacp]

Socket 478 and AGP is perfectly fine if you DON'T plan on upgrading the computer. Also, any ram is good. Even the dirt cheap ones if you don't plan on overclocking. Finally, get the 6600GT. Best mid ranged/budget video card. AGP is ok if you don't plan on upgrading in the future. It will play all of the games today at mid settings pretty well.

Edited by hacp, 10 June 2005 - 08:07 PM.

[smky143]

thanks for the info. what do you mean by upgradeing, like to a new cpu or other stuff. I thought you can only put certain cpu's on a certain mobo.

[audioboy]

upgrading can be done, like you said, the cpu, video card, etc.
as long as you can get a chip that fits your mobo, and the mobo supports it. socket 478 will be around for a while, but to help ensure upgradeability, consider the 775.
I am rather firm on the quality ram though, the cheap stuff can cause all kinds of problems. the cheap stuff also runs with slower timings, which slows down total system performance.

and yes AGP is fine, but cards are getting more expensive for the AGP interface, compared to PCIE. PCIE is the new standard, and AGP will slowly go away.

the way I look at it, when you build a PC, expect to use it for 4-5 years. giving yourself as many options for upgrading as possible, so you can improve a couple things fairly cheaply (compared to getting a whole new system). this helps maximize the life of the system.

[smky143]

Yes I see how the 775 is better, I was misinformed that the agp was better than the pci express. which is actually about 2x faster. Thanks again

[audioboy]

happy to help out!

[hacp]

Right now, there is virtually no difference between agp cards and pci-e cards. Also, timings can affect performance, but its barely noticable. People get quality ram mostly for ocing.

Edit: affect not effect lol

Also, the only things that I find you can improve for cheap is RAM and Video cards. The processors are hard to upgrade, especially if your getting an intel processor. Intel jacks up it's prices for outdated processors just so you'll buy the new ones. Also, in 3 years, it will just be cheaper to buy a new computer and use the old computer for data storage or something.

Edited by hacp, 11 June 2005 - 10:12 AM.

[warriorscot]

What you say is really down to the system itself it can often be much cheaper to upgrade unless you have ridiculus amounts of money and allready have your system maxed out.