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I am looking to buy a new PC,  after saving and I have been quoted 2 prices. One from Chillblast and the other from PC specialist.

 

The Chillblast specs:

 

Fusion Pharaoh

Zalman Z3 Plus Gaming Case with Fan Controller - Black                

Intel Core i7 4790K  Haswell Refresh Processor 4.00 GHz (No Overclocking)

Intel Stock Cooler                           

Generic thermal paste                  

Asus B85M-G Basic Micro ATX Motherboard - Haswell CPU only                

16GB Corsair/Crucial/Samsung PC3-12800 1600MHz DDR3 Memory (2 x 8GB sticks)                          

Chillblast AMD Radeon R7 265 2048MB Graphics Card                     

250GB Samsung 840 EVO Solid State Drive                          

2000GB 7200RPM Hard Disk - 6Gbps                      

24x SATA DVD+/-RW Drive                         

FSP Premium Grade 500W PSU                 

Onboard High Definition Audio                 

Windows 7 or 8.1 64 bit                         

5 Year Warranty with 2 Years Collect and Return (UK only)    

 

Cost: 927 inc VAT

 

The PC Specialist specs:

 

Case InWIN GT1 BLACK GAMING CASE

Processor (CPU) Intel® CoreTMi7 Quad Core Processor i7-4790k (4.0GHz) 8MB Cache
Motherboard ASUS® Z97-A: ATX, USB3.0, SATA 6GB/S, SLi, XFIRE
Memory (RAM) 16GB KINGSTON DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card 2GB AMD RADEONTM R9 270X - DVI, HDMI, DP - DX® 11, Eyefinity 4 Capable
1st Hard Disk 240GB KINGSTON V300 SSD, SATA 6 Gb (450MB/R, 450MB/W)
2nd Hard Disk 2TB 3.5" SATA-III 6GB/s HDD 7200RPM 64MB CACHE
1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive 24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM
Power Supply CORSAIR 550W VS SERIESTM VS-550 POWER SUPPLY
Processor Cooling INTEL STANDARD CPU COOLER
Sound Card ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking 10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB Options MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 4 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT
Power Cable 1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Operating System Genuine Windows 8.1 64 Bit - inc DVD & Licence 
DVD Recovery Media Windows 8.1 (64-bit) DVD with paper sleeve
Office Software FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365
Anti-Virus BULLGUARD INTERNET SECURITY - FREE 90 DAY TRIAL
Warranty 3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year
 
Cost:1029 inc VAT.
 
Please advise, as I have no idea which one to choose from. I heard Chillblast has got a good reputation and also PC specialist. 

If there is any other desktop that can beat that price for less than 1K, then do let me know.
 
Thanks in advance.

 

 


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Also like to add to the above, the desktop I will buy will have nothing to do with gaming. This is much more of a home/business use.


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:welcome: snash1039.

 

Glad you added that rider.   The 2 builds are gaming rigs and not very well balanced at that.

 

Looks like you want a ready build system with support?

Would it cost you money if the system was down for a week?

What type of software would you likely use, i.e. Office, Myob, TradeGecko?


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Thanks for your comment.

 

The quote I got from Chillblast ... wasn't really catered for gaming at all. If would have very little use, as I am not  personally a game person. They insisted the best one for my needs. The same applies to the PC Specialist.

 

I want a system that can last 5/6 years ... a powerful one...and then I can upgrade and look further. What is the point in spending more now for a high spec desktop now, I just rather get apple mac.


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Is there a difference in motherboards between the two:

 

1 Chillblast.   Asus B85M-G Basic Micro ATX Motherboard - Haswell CPU only      

2. Pc Specialist. Motherboard ASUS® Z97-A: ATX, USB3.0, SATA 6GB/S, SLi, XFIRE


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Anyone please?


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It would be much easer to Taylor help for you if you answered the 3 questions.

For a home/business computer, you do not need a discrete graphics card.

You do not need an i7 CPU, that would be ore suited for a poto/video/cad workstationThose system are unbalanced.

Look on the HP Home site, business computers. 

 

Here are the 2 MBs, > http://www.newegg.co...132-215:$$$$$$$

The ASUS B85M-G is a series 8 Macro (small) board and very basic.   It would do the job but low end, more suited for Mum browsing/skype/faceboo/twitter.   don/t think it would last 5 years, 

The ASUS Z97-A is series 9 atx (regualar) board with heaps more features, will do the job but a bit overkill as you don't need GPU sli capabilities. 


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Sorry Iammykyl, 

 

Yes I want support for a ready made system.

Well, if I paid good money for a system that went down, I will be covered by the manufaturers guarantee.

I am not particularly fussed, I have not heard of myob or tradegecko. ..is there a differance between the office packages?


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Thanks for the update.

Myob is a complete accounting package, does "payroll, tax audits, invoicing etc.

tradegecko is for invontary management, Manage all your sales, stock, accounting, shipping and customer data from a single place.

Office, >http://en.wikipedia....icrosoft_Office

 

I don'ty want to steer you into the wrong path, so not being nosy, but need more info.

What kind of business are you running, eSales, consulting, construction, engineering?

Do you employ other people.  

Support.  I asked to determine what level you might want.

Normally you get basic with a purchase, telephone support, (not usually software problems) and return computer to base for repairs,(shipping, you pay. (software problems usually pay extra) Parts covered by manufacturers warranty.

Pay for support basic.   As above, no shipping costs, software problems included.   

Premium.   Everything including on site support, (time limits may apply)

Thanks for the PM, I will get back later with a HP business package that may suit. 


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I will be going into the Internet Marketing field. So I would expect the very least the microsoft word, excel, etc. 

PDF, stream videos, browsing, using social media, all the basic packages. Also, will be using program to build

my own sites. And a quite a lot of downloading.

 

I have just started a business, and a one man band operation.

 

I would need a system  which has a  Hard drive.  I will save a load of data. Max 2 TB

memory 8 to 16GB.
A fast system

A good dvd player.

Good graphics.

Intel i5 or i7

 

And windows 7, would not even think of having 8.1 it is ghastly.


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Thanks for the update.

An i5 4690K  wil more tha cope with your workload.

Given the other specs, Web development, 16GB RAM, an of the shelve HP system is not feasible.

I have configured a custom build on PC specialists which would do everything you want including the silver service support, the graphics is integrated, which will defiantly suffice  to begin with, if you do not find it enough with more advanced web design, I have specified a 550 what PSU, this would allow the addition of a discrete card later.

Let us know what you think.

 

 

Case
COOLERMASTER HAF 912 PLUS MID TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™i5 Quad Core Processor i5-4690K (3.5GHz) 6MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® Z97-A: ATX, USB3.0, SATA 6GB/S, SLi, XFIRE
Memory (RAM)
16GB KINGSTON DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
INTEGRATED GRAPHICS ACCELERATOR (GPU)
1st Hard Disk
1TB WD CAVIAR BLACK WD1003FZEX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (7200rpm)
2nd Hard Disk
1TB 3.5" SATA-III 6GB/s HDD 7200RPM 32MB CACHE
1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W VS SERIES™ VS-550 POWER SUPPLY
Processor Cooling
INTEL STANDARD CPU COOLER
Extra Case Fans
1 x 12CM Black Case Fan (configured to extract from rear/roof) (£5)
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB Options
2 PORT USB 3.0 INTERNAL PCI-E CARD + STANDARD USB PORTS
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Operating System
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit w/SP1 - inc DVD & Licence (£79)
Office Software
Microsoft® Office Home & Student 2013 (1 License & Disc) (£85)
Anti-Virus
BULLGUARD INTERNET SECURITY - FREE 90 DAY TRIAL
External Hard Drive
WD 2TB My Book USB 3.0 External HDD - WDBFJK0020HBK (£80)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour) (£5)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 6 to 8 working days
Quantity
1

Price: £971.00 including VAT and delivery.

Unique URL to re-configure: http://www.pcspecial...-pc/KvkRkWI6_s/


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Not a bad configuration. 

I know you mentioned HP....but if I were to choose from the link I given, which one would be ideal?

 

On the list above you also mentioned the windows home premium which they are charging 79 pounds,

I think you can get this cheaper from places like gumtree/ebay half the price. The microsoft home office

again can be purchased cheaply.

The external hard drive would not be required.

My only other grudge would be the i5 as opposed to the i7.

 

Thanks in advance.


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Also I would need a headset, which one would you recommend?


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OK, hope this is better.

OS, I would advice only to buy from a reputable source.   I have left it in the build as they will fully install and test, ultimately up to you.

I hardly game but watch streamed content and record voice. I have been using this set for six months.   Decent sound and comfortable to wear for a couple of hours.

http://proclockers.c...-headset-review

 

Case
COOLERMASTER HAF 912 PLUS MID TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™i7 Quad Core Processor i7-4790k (4.0GHz) 8MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® Z97-A: ATX, USB3.0, SATA 6GB/S, SLi, XFIRE
Memory (RAM)
16GB KINGSTON DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
INTEGRATED GRAPHICS ACCELERATOR (GPU)
1st Hard Disk
1TB WD CAVIAR BLACK WD1003FZEX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (7200rpm)
2nd Hard Disk
1TB 3.5" SATA-III 6GB/s HDD 7200RPM 32MB CACHE
3rd Hard Disk
1TB 3.5" SATA-III 6GB/s HDD 7200RPM 32MB CACHE
1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W VS SERIES™ VS-550 POWER SUPPLY
Processor Cooling
INTEL STANDARD CPU COOLER
Extra Case Fans
1 x 12CM Black Case Fan (configured to extract from rear/roof) (£5)
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB Options
2 PORT USB 3.0 INTERNAL PCI-E CARD + STANDARD USB PORTS
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Operating System
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit w/SP1 - inc DVD & Licence (£79)
Office Software
NO OFFICE SOFTWARE
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Headsets
Creative Sound Blaster Tactic 3D Fury (£45)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour) (£5)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 6 to 8 working days
Quantity
1

Price: £987.00 including VAT and delivery.

Unique URL to re-configure: http://www.pcspecial...-pc/p3O7PXBedR/

 

Could not see a link for HP.


Edited by iammykyl, 22 December 2014 - 09:02 AM.
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Not a bad price. 

 

The HP link is...

 

http://store.hp.com/...sel=PBDT&ctrl=f


Edited by snash1039, 22 December 2014 - 02:49 PM.

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