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hello i wanted to i wanted to upgrade my GPU or CPU. With a $250 budget for 1 or the other just wanted some extra advice. I would prefer a part list from----> MICROCENTER.COM in westmount, il

 

 

Cpu: AMD FX™-6300 Six Core 3.50 ghz

 

Gpu: Nvidia GeForce GTX 650 Ti-Boost

 

MotherBoard: ASRock   970 Extreme3 r2.0    ChipSet: AMD & RD9x0

 

Ram: Crucial ballistix DDR3 ram 8gb

                                           

 

                                                                            Would like a answer A.S.A.P


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any one got some suggestions


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:welcome: nomsization .

Need some clarification please.

You have a ASRock   970 Extreme3 r2.0    ChipSet: AMD & RD9x0, with installed Ram: Crucial ballistix DDR3 ram 8gb ??

 

You want to upgrade the CPU to a AMD FX™-6300 ?

OR

Upgrade the GPU to a Nvidia GeForce GTX 650 Ti-Boost ?


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think those are what he has currently, and wants to know which to upgrade, i'd guess for gaming purposes.

 

personally i think i'd upgrade the gpu to a 3gb r9 280x. don't think current cpu will bottleneck that.

 

:popcorn:

 

don't forget to check current psu against required psu to run a 280x graphics card


Edited by terry1966, 18 January 2015 - 05:30 AM.

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i would like to upgrade the gpu mostly but i dont know. I really just want to get more frames on my games mostly


Edited by nomsization, 18 January 2015 - 05:37 AM.

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OK, given that the list is your existing parts.

Please give the exact brand and model of the PSU.


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Brand: Thermaltake 700w

 

Model: TR2-700AL2NC-A   


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really wish you had a better power supply, don't think i'd risk running a r9 280x video card with that so would recommend a r9 270x instead.

not worth the gain in performance for price, will do some more research.

 

:popcorn:

 

i'd suggest a gtx 770 because of the lower power requirements than the 280x but think they are just above your $250 budget.

 

here's a guide on graphics cards. http://www.tomshardw...ew-32899-7.html

 

I don’t recommend upgrading your graphics card unless the replacement card is at least three tiers higher.


Edited by terry1966, 18 January 2015 - 06:23 AM.

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i could upgrade my cpu it will just have to be a amd. It does not matter to me just leaning more towards graphics card i guess.


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i am going to hit the hay.  

 

my system stuff is here--------->   

 

if you have any other questions. I will respond as soon as i get up.

 

 

                                                                                                                                    Good Night :)


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your not going to gain frame rates by upgrading your cpu, because it doesn't bottle neck your current gpu in the first place,

it is gpu's that give you most benefit in frame rates just as long as the cpu isn't a bottleneck.

 

curious but what games do you play where your current setup struggles? have you tried lowering some setting or screen resolution to improve things?

 

:popcorn:


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Thanks for the infor.

Not the  best PSU but has enough Amps on the rails and PCI-E plugs.

Here are cards available, > http://www.microcent...ortby=pricehigh

 

Also agree, a R9 280X would be the card in your price range. 

(same link I think)> http://www.tomshardw...iew,3107-7.html

 

If at all possible, consider holding off for, say a month, and going for a GTX 970, getting you close to the top end of cards. > http://www.tomshardw...iew,3107-5.html


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http://www.tomshardw...iew,3107-4.html
according to that min power supply is 500watt for a r9 280x, thought it needed 750watts for some reason and the amd site doesn't actually give psu power requirements :- http://www.amd.com/e...ics/desktop/r9#
 
so yes buy a r9 280x 3gb card.
 
iammyky the gtx970 is going to be over budget, great card tho, i also think the cpu might start to be a problem and be a bottleneck for such a high end card, similarly with a r9 290x
 
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found this topic with some good advice on cpu/gpu upgrade.
 

 

I think you have a good plan.
A GTX970 is a big jump in graphics power and will run on your current 550w psu.
In time, it is easily moved to a new build with a different cpu.

Most games are graphics limited so you will get a boost in fps and certainly more eye candy.

To help clarify your CPU/GPU options, run these two tests:

a) Run your games, but lower your resolution and eye candy.
If your FPS increases, it indicates that your cpu is strong enough to drive a better graphics configuration.
If your FPS stays the same, you are likely more cpu limited.

b) Limit your cpu, either by reducing the OC, or, in windows power management, limit the maximum cpu% to something like 70%.
Go to control panel/power options/change plan settings/change advanced power settings/processor power management/maximum processor state/
This will simulate what a lack of cpu power will do.
Conversely what a 30% improvement in core speed might do.

You could also experiment with removing one core in the bios. You can also do this in the windows start configuration.
This will tell you how sensitive your games are to the benefits of many cores.

If your FPS drops significantly, it is an indicator that your cpu is the limiting factor, and a cpu upgrade is in order.

It is possible that both tests are positive, indicating that you have a well balanced system, and both cpu and gpu need to be upgraded to get better gaming FPS.
 

http://www.tomshardw...ck-gtx-970.html


Edited by terry1966, 18 January 2015 - 07:03 AM.

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hello thank you for the help. We could do team viewer and you could check some stuff out i am ok with that.


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i think i am going to go with the r9 280x 3gb card.    


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