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No boot, can't get into BIOS even


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lala_angela

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Hi all!

A week ago I had a problem, XP just didn't see my SATA raid harddisks.
Fixed that problem by installing the drivers on reinstalling XP.

However, some days later, in the morning the PC was fine, but when I got home from work, it did not boot.

The symptoms are:
Everything seems to work, all fans are going, the cd-rom drives work too.
No display what soever and no beeps either.

Here's what I've done in the meantime:
I did read the top topic in here, on what to do with new builds.

I did check the memory, put new memory in, same thing.
I checked all cables, same thing. Unplugged them, put them back, same thing
Got the processor out, put it back, same thing.

Checked the monitor :tazz: , same thing.

Finally I bought a new case and new motherboard:
ASUS P4p800E deluxe
put everything in there: same thing.

The last action was: take everything out, and put a piece of cardboard underneath the motherboard. Plugged a drive back, the vga card, and the keyboard, nothing else, still same thing.

I can hear everything working, I just don't seem to get any display whatsoever.
(Or bleeps for that matter...I mean, even bleeps would tell me something) ;)

Anyone has any ideas? Only thing I can't check is the processor.
Don't have any other system the thing fits in, and I don't want to go out and buy a new processor, just because I think it's faulty.

Rest of the config:
2x512 Mb memory
2x160 Gb harddisks, Seagate, SATA
Pentium 4 processor

Help please! Am getting pretty desperate. ;)

Cheers! Angela
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just a quixjk guess bu uor Mothherboard may of blown, i\be had the same problem, with my last board, likw you say "no life from the momitor" but all else fine.

hope it' a start for ya


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It's a new board, but same problems on the "old" mb though..

Can't be both mb's are goners? Highly unlikely, but could be, am not ruling it out yet.
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I would say the video card so see if you can barrow one to try

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Hey Rick!

Sorry mate, tried 3 different videocards in both setups.
Nope, isn't it.
I can however try again with a videocard I know is working. ;)
( Don't tell the other half :tazz: )

If you don't get a jipppppee later, it didn't work.

Angela
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Yea it would be hard to believe both mobo's are bad and all them video cards I don't think so.

If you have a volt meter we could check the psu but if you have one you could swap in that would be best. This ain't acting like a psu issue but you never know with these things

Another thing to try would be to make sure the case speaker is connected and remove the ram and power on if it beeps then that usually indicates the mobo and cpu are good.

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Yes I agree with doby, what I should have said was if like you say everything else that connects to the Mobo work's then the mobo mobr be ok, however since the mobo is noy sendinj a signal out to boot the monitor, and your power light is working on your monitor, the only other thing it could be is your monitor power settimgs, try and hold in your monitor power button for a few seconds longer as it might be in some sort of powe save mode.
If no luck on that. i'd advise taking it to be looked at by your pc store.

as you said it does the same on your old mobo.

This happened to me on 2 ASROCK boards same problem

good luck.
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are you sure you have all the power connecters connected to the mobo correctly. IE; atx12v and the Eatxpwr. Not familiar with the board but i believe your problem lies with this or your psu is whack. IE; too low on the watts or has went bad/short.
What is the psu wattage? What is the complete specs? IE; processor, ram, drives(cdroms also), # of fans, Graphix card(s), etc. Basically anything grabbing power.
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Ok, quick reply, since I am on my way to work.
So, right now, only responding to questions I can answer immediately.
More later or tomorrow. ;)

The monitor is fine, actually, I luckilly have a spare PIII, so at the moment I can at least answer my email in a decent fashion. Right now I am sitting behind the same monitor that is not showing anything with the PIV machine(s).

Case speaker is connected, I even tried the speaker from the old casing, since I knew that one to be working.
There are no beeps, not even when I pull out all the memory. However, the rest is aparently working.

The last time I tried, I only had one strip of ram in there, and the videocard, and one of the disks, no cd-drives whatsoever.

Keep on pitching ideas! I really appreciate this.
The other half is trying to get his hands on a spare CPU. Let's see what that will do.;)

Ok, all for now. Need to run!
:tazz:

Angela
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i just want to know the wattage of the psu and all the devices using ur electricity(lol), also what make is the psu
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PSU: Linkworld 300W
HDD: 2xSeagate 160Mb SATA Barracuda 7200.7
CD-rom: Justlink
DVD: ?
Intel Pentium IV Fan
1 case/housing fan
floppy
Radeon 9600 videocard
2 * 512Mb DDR 400MHz CL3 Ram / Elixir

That's about it. :tazz:

@scrushmaster:
I knew you wanted to know all this, but like I said, I was on my way to work.
I already have a habit of arriving late there, I didn't want to push it.
That's why I only answered the questions I could without looking them up. LOL
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Sorry to say but after an hour of searching my speculation is turning on your motherboard/processor because of the "no blips". Since you have bought a new mobo then it turns to the PROCESSOR. Which really sucks but I would check out the warrantes info on it and probably talk to intel, but you do have to pay here is the site for intel contact info. http://support.intel...tm#northamerica [bleep] man that really sucks im sorry i could not help you but it looks like you know your [bleep] and the only 2 culprits could be a bad power supply or a bad processor and since you hear the fans and everything come on im leaning toward the bad processor, but with all said i could be completely wrong! That is just my take on the situation.
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Yeah, I hate to admit that you are probably right. It was the first thought I had.
Today we're probably going to try yet another power supply, and if that fails, I still hope I can find someone in our small circle of IT friends who has a spare P4 laying around :tazz:

I won't give up though, so anyone else with ideas, they're more than welcome!

@scrushmaster: don't feel sorry, I'm over that. I am just inticed to look for the answer to this puzzle now.
It may cost me more time and money than I would have liked to, but in the end I learnt a lot these weeks!

So, keep spewing ideas, will gladly look into them!

Cheers!

Angela

PS: reason I didn't answer yesterday, is that I had a business meeting that made me come home at 10.30 pm. Was/am tired as [bleep]....but the positive side of it is: I can tell you all about setting up a clustered MySQL environment!
LOL
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:tazz: ;)
Succes!! Well...sorta.

I had some spare time yesterday, plus a load of patience ;)
We already had figured out it was most probably the CPU, so, I took it out, since I needed to replace it someday anyways.

I took it into the light and had a good long hard look at it, I mean: it's a wonderfull piece of engineering, you must admit!

Well....2 pins were bent...don't ask me why or how come.
I bent them back, and thought I'd give it one last go.
SUCCESS!!!

It worked! Still does.

Brings me to a new problem though: :tazz:
Windows install doesn't recognize my disks now.
But I figure with installing (F6) the drivers that may be resolved somehow.

However, still have a question though:
I have 2 ways of installing the hdd's. 2 RAID ports and 2 S-ATA ports.
Now, if I don't want to use the RAID, how do I configuer the S-ATA drives in BIOS?
I think that's where the problem lies still.

Ok, thanks to all who took the time to look at my problem!
You were a great help.
This site rocks btw.

Thanks again!

Angela
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