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whats the best upgrades could i get without having to change MoBo ?


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Hi i would like to upgrade my computer to be able to run most games with high frames and settings however i do not want to get a new mobo because i don't want all the hassle taking my old one out and putting a new one in. My max budget is £500 so is there any chance someone could let me know the best cpu , gpu, psu and ram i could buy which would be compatiable with my Asus F1A55-M LX PLUS R2.0 MoBo.

 

My computer specs at the moment :

 

MoBo - Asus F1A55-M LX PLUS R2.0

Cpu - AMD A4-3420 APU

 

Gpu - asus gt 730 1gb ddr3

 

Ram - 4gb

 

Psu - 300w

 

 

Thanks

 


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Hi i would like to upgrade my computer to be able to run most games with high frames and settings however i do not want to get a new mobo

to be honest that just isn't going to be possible in my opinion with that motherboard, because your limiting your cpu possibilities and thereby limiting yourself to a slower gpu.

 

here's the full specifications of that motherboard :- http://www.asus.com/...specifications/

here's the cpu support by that mother board. :- http://www.asus.com/...0/HelpDesk_CPU/

 

personally i think if your prepared to install a new cpu then you might as well go the whole hog and upgrade both the motherboard and cpu to a newer faster socket/chipset type.

 

your going to need a better psu no matter what tho. i'd expect, something probably in the range of 500watt bronze.

 

here's a some pc's that for about an extra £100 includes monitor and everything :- http://www.pcadvisor...ng-pcs-2015-uk/ that would blow any thing you can build using your current motherboard with it's best cpu upgrade out of the water gaming wise, so just think what you could be able to build using your £500 just as long as your prepared to replace the motherboard.

 

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Hi i would like to upgrade my computer to be able to run most games with high frames and settings however i do not want to get a new mobo

to be honest that just isn't going to be possible in my opinion with that motherboard, because your limiting your cpu possibilities and thereby limiting yourself to a slower gpu.

 

here's the full specifications of that motherboard :- http://www.asus.com/...specifications/

here's the cpu support by that mother board. :- http://www.asus.com/...0/HelpDesk_CPU/

 

personally i think if your prepared to install a new cpu then you might as well go the whole hog and upgrade both the motherboard and cpu to a newer faster socket/chipset type.

 

your going to need a better psu no matter what tho. i'd expect, something probably in the range of 500watt bronze.

 

here's a some pc's that for about an extra £100 includes monitor and everything :- http://www.pcadvisor...ng-pcs-2015-uk/ that would blow any thing you can build using your current motherboard with it's best cpu upgrade out of the water gaming wise, so just think what you could be able to build using your £500 just as long as your prepared to replace the motherboard.

 

:popcorn:

 

Ok what is the best i could get with buying a new mobo at £500 budget??


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ok i pushed your budget slightly and got all the parts from scan uk but this is the sort of system i'd be looking to build.
 
cpu £146.58 :- http://www.scan.co.u...-ratio-84w-reta

psu £47.94 :- http://www.scan.co.u...0mm-fan-atx-psu

motherboard £68.40 :- http://www.scan.co.u...usb3-hdmi-atx-m

gpu £260.95 ;- http://www.scan.co.u...-cores-1664-3xd

 

total £523.87

 

with 8GB ram £64.56 :- http://www.scan.co.u...0-9-27-xmp-150v

 

total £588.43

 

:popcorn:


Edited by terry1966, 28 February 2015 - 04:28 PM.

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Gday, 

Changing the MB may mean buying a new OS if your current one is an OEM licence, (once installed on a MB, is not transferable to a different one) is OK if it is a 

retail licence. 

Consider upgrading only the MB, top CPU for gaming, PSU able to support top end GPUs. new RAM.   keep your existing GPU and when you are up and running, sell the existing MB as a package (uncluding the OS disc) then look to upgrading the GPU. 

 

NB. MB from Scan + shipping £9.58 total £82,26 so changed 

PSU Gold with 5 year warranty, > http://www.antec.com...596&fid=5022089

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/64gnFT

 Total  £364.20  leaves funds for a new OS, or after selling you MB, funds for the GPU upgrade. 


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Some great advice above. Adding to it, as a very long time gamer and system builder I found it's always best to spend your money on a current-gen motherboard that is fully capable of using / upgrading to the latest CPU. 8GB of memory is sufficient, and the PSU advice was sound although I would recommend something in the order of a 620W Seasonic just in case your future video card upgrade would be a higher end card.

 

All this means is that it's far better to be on an Intel socket 1150 with a high end or mid end I5 with a good power supply even if you have to stick with an older GPU or use Intel IGPU until your old card is sold because when that day comes when you want high frame rates you will already be sitting on the proper platform to upgrade to a mid-high and GPU without any severe bottlenecking that the older *out-of-date* platforms will lock you into.

 

Of course if a great deal on a budget AMD 970 board with an FX 6300 comes along that's ok too, with the only issue being able to properly upgrade to a FX 8350 without any thermal throttling going on as there are only a few 970 AMD motherboards that will run a FX 8350 properly ( even at stock speeds). What the AMD path gives you is better pricing albeit with lower performance overall and a lower performing upgrade path as opposed to the Intel path to prevent bottlenecking higher end GPU's (like a GTX 970-980 or R9 290/290X).


Edited by Wizdom_09Z, 28 February 2015 - 11:51 PM.

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if you can use the oem operating system again with a new motherboard and cpu in a pc is up to microsoft and in most cases they will let you activate it again with just a simple phone call, so there is not always a need to buy a new os when you change the cpu and motherboard in a pc even though in their  terms it does say it isn't transferable.

 

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well when i got my PC it already had windows 8 on it and have never needed to install with disc. also how much would i roughly get for my motherboard if i sold it and how much would windows 8 OS cost???


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Even though the OS was installed, did you get a Windows Disc with the computer?

Windows 8.1 64 bit OEM > £80.32 http://www.dabs.com/...tm_content=AW00

 

Total spend, £444,52

 

Sorry don't know what the second hand market is like in the UK, will also depend if you have the disc. 


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Incorrect . There is no "OEM "version of windows 8 . There is a "home user license " that lets you activate on 3 computers [ though only one at a time] .

 

7 would be a coaster , 8 is good to go but as stated unless the board is identical you will probably have to reinstall .

A board with an identical chipset might boot but likely the device drivers will need sorting out . Sound, LAN , etc etc may not be identical and will need new drivers from the new mb disk

http://www.tomshardw...d-cpu-swap.html

 

don't bother buying a new os unless you find you definitely need to, from my experience in the past you won't need to.

 

 

Can I transfer the software to another computer or user? You may transfer the software to another computer that belongs to you. You may also transfer the software (together with the license) to a computer owned by someone else if a) you are the first licensed user of the software and b) the new user agrees to the terms of this agreement. To make that transfer, you must transfer the original media, the certificate of authenticity, the product key and the proof of purchase directly to that other person, without retaining any copies of the software. You may use the backup copy we allow you to make or the media that the software came on to transfer the software. Anytime you transfer the software to a new computer, you must remove the software from the prior computer. You may not transfer the software to share licenses between computers. You may transfer Get Genuine Windows software, Pro Pack or Media Center Pack software only together with the licensed computer.

from microsofts oem license :- http://personaluseli...US/default.aspx

 

:popcorn:

 

didn't know they'd changed the terms since win 8 myself till now, just knew i've never had a problem re-activating an os with a simple phone call at most.


Edited by terry1966, 01 March 2015 - 10:04 AM.

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Gday Terry1966.

 

If Bobby101 sold the MB, CPU, RAM, (no HDD) how would the new owner go about installing the OS.


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Even though the OS was installed, did you get a Windows Disc with the computer?

Windows 8.1 64 bit OEM > £80.32 http://www.dabs.com/...tm_content=AW00

 

Total spend, £444,52

 

Sorry don't know what the second hand market is like in the UK, will also depend if you have the disc. 

no i did not get a disc with ym pc when i got it


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Gday Terry1966.

 

If Bobby101 sold the MB, CPU, RAM, (no HDD) how would the new owner go about installing the OS.

 

not really understanding why that matters or if there is something you specifically want to know that i'm missing but the obvious answer is that new owner would have to build a pc with the parts adding the necessary hard drive and then have their own install media to do the os install.

 

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