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MDL159

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Hello, i have a fps problem with my pc while playing games(it is when i notice it, i might be getting them all the time).It happens like 1 in 30 secs.Most times it happens when the game says something or a sound occurs(so it might be an audio problem, i updated my drivers with no change).It's not that i can't play that game with my specs cause even if i play some games with max graphics i get 300 fps but framedrops still happen.

 

My specs

CPU:Intel Core i5 2500

GPU:Nvidia Gtx 560

RAM:8 Gb

MOBO:Asus p8h67-m pro

 

My operating system is windows 7 x64 home premium sp1

My audio driver is realtek edition 6.0.1.7487 in case you wanted

 

If you need more info tell me and i post it.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

I wasn't sure where to post it so i'm sorry if it's in the wrong forum.


Edited by MDL159, 31 May 2015 - 03:46 AM.

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Any help? I spent some hours yesterday tried few things nothing changed though


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Any help?If you don't have any idea why that happens just let me know please, or tell me if i didn't explain it right.


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:welcome:   MDL159,

 

First of all an explanation as to why you may not have received any offer of help.

 

If you reply to your own OP or last reply it can lead to your request for help being overlooked, staff and members who assist on the forums will always check out a topic that has not received any replies to see if they are able to help, if you reply to your own OP it will appear to others viewing the board that you have received a reply and so are already being helped.

 

To the problem at hand, can you post the brand and model name or number for the PSU for us + do the following tests which for the most accurate figures should be done after doing some gaming;

 

Download Speedfan and install it.  Once it's installed, run the program and post here the information it shows.  The information I want you to post is the stuff that is circled in the example picture I have attached.

If you are running on a vista machine, please go to where you installed the program and run the program as administrator.


 

speedfan.png

 (this is a screenshot from a vista machine)

 

 Download then run HWMonitor and post a screenshot so that we have a comparison to the Speedfan results, details from here

 

To capture and post a screenshot;

 

Click on the ALT key + PRT SCR key..its on the top row..right hand side..now click on start...all programs...accessories...paint....left click in the white area ...press CTRL + V...click on file...click on save...save it to your desktop...name it something related to the screen your capturing... BE SURE TO SAVE IT AS A .JPG ...otherwise it may be to big to upload... then after typing in any response you have... click on browse...desktop...find the screenshot..select it and click on the upload button...then on the lower left...after it says upload successful...click on add reply like you normally would.

 

Screenshot instructions are provided to assist those that may read this topic but are not yet aware of the “how to”.


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Thank you for explaining that to me.Didn't know and i'm sorry.

 

This is my PSU http://www.silversto...pid=240&area=en

Silverstone ST75F-P

 

 

SpeedFan.jpg HWMonitor.jpg

 

The cpu temp on speedfan was jumping from 60 to 80


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You are welcome and thank you for understanding  :thumbsup:

 

That is a very good quality brand PSU but unfortunately they do sometimes fail for one reason or another and so need to be checked.

 

Your screenshots show a couple of very high temps** but are missing certain voltage readings and some we do see are out of wack but this can sometimes be caused by the MBs own software.

 

**The maximum safe operating temperature of the CPU is 72.6°C and your system should automatically shut down once this has been reached.

 

If you are overclocking any hardware I suggest that you stop and restore the MBs default factory setting in the BIOS.

 

Increase your cooling fan speeds, a guide to using Speedfan to do this here

 

Please restart your computer and check the temperatures/voltages in the BIOS, no screenshot is required just make a note of the temperatures and the +3.3V, +5V and the +12V and post them with your next reply.

 

NB: BIOS voltage readings.

The readings are not conclusive in the BIOS as the computer is under the least amount of load, if they are higher or lower than what they should be though it does suggest a PSU problem.

 

Some info on HWMonitor readings below;

 

CPUTIN = CPU Temperature Index

AUXTIN = Auxiliary Temperature Index
SYSTIN = System Temperature Index
 
CPUTIN is different from CoreTemp. CoreTemp is the sensor  on the processor while CPUTIN is motherboard CPU  temp sensor .
AUXTIN is the power supply  temp sensor if there is one while SYSTIN relates to motherboard.

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I never even tried to overclock anything.

 

Can't figure out how to increase fan speed.Even though it says 100 speed doesn't change and i dont hear fans more than before.Tried to get a config from speedfan but my MB was not there.

 

Temp

CPU 41

MB 38

 

Voltage

CPU 1.104

+3.3V 3.344

+5V 4.960

+12V 12.288


Edited by MDL159, 14 June 2015 - 05:54 AM.

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Apologies for the delay getting back to you, been rather busy with work  :(

 

No O/Cing is good but can I ask if you restored the MBs default settings in the BIOS, this in case they have somehow been changed without you knowing.

 

For controlling fan speeds try MSI Afterburner, a very good utility that works well with many other brands, download and usage information here

 

Those temps and voltages are ok but as previously  mentioned the readings cannot be relied upon as the computer is not under load.

 

We could do with some further information about your hardware and software etc, see my canned text below;

 

Download then run Speccy (free) and post the resultant url for us, details here,  this will provide us with information about your computer hardware + any software that you have installed that may explain the present issue/s. 

 


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Speccy

 

i have restored MB to default settings

 

MSI afterburner really worked.But my fans are way too loud so i got them at 35 C to be 70% 40 C 85% and then 100%

It only affects GPU though

 

Because i started working again i might be late on my answers but i will answer.


Edited by MDL159, 19 June 2015 - 01:06 AM.

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No worries reply when you are able to  :thumbsup:

 

How is the computer behaving since you made the changes.

 

Something that I note in your Speccy report is that both PCI-E and both PCI slots are in use, can I ask which PCI-E slot your video card is in (the blue or the black slot on the MB) and what if anything is in the second PCI-E slot.

 

PCI Data

Slot PCI-E
Slot Type: PCI-E
Slot Usage: In Use
Bus Width: 32 bit
Slot Designation: PCIEX16_1
Characteristics: 3.3V, Shared, PME
Slot Number: 0
Slot PCI-E
Slot Type: PCI-E
Slot Usage: In Use
Bus Width: 32 bit
Slot Designation: PCIEX16_2
Characteristics: 3.3V, Shared, PME
Slot Number: 1
Slot PCI
Slot Type: PCI
Slot Usage: In Use
Bus Width: 32 bit
Slot Designation: PCI1
Characteristics: 3.3V, Shared, PME
Slot Number: 2
Slot PCI
Slot Type: PCI
Slot Usage: In Use
Bus Width: 32 bit
Slot Designation: PCI2
Characteristics: 3.3V, Shared, PME
Slot Number: 3

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Still getting fps drop.

 

My gpu is in the blue slot.The black slot is empty.

 

I noticed something in device manager dev.jpg


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Not sure why but your MB is detecting cards being in the other slots.

 

Two suggestions, 1: try stress testing the video card with Furmark from here 2: try the video card in the black slot to see if it is any different.

 

Your screenshot shows multiple audio drivers being installed which while possible may cause problems it is not likely to cause a drop in FPS, poor FPS are more likely to be caused by bottlenecks, poor power supply or a video card that is showing its age.


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Black slot made no difference

 

I am not really sure what to watch in furmark..It goes to 94 temp in 10 minutes and then stays that way as i left it for another 20


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