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Your opinion for processor Intel Xeon E5620 ( video editing, gaming )


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Vladimir123

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Hello,

A few days ago I had just ordered a new ( used ) CPU, an Intel Xeon E5620 quad core 2.4 GHz

So, I was wondering what do you guys think for this CPU, would be even better to see someone's opinion who already had the same CPU or has it still.
Basically, the processor was cheap on eBay so I thought why not give it a chance, I doubt I can find a better processor for the same price ( $20 + free shipping ), though the cheapest motherboard costs much more than that, about $82 ( MSI X58 Pro )

Im gonna use it for internet browsing, video editing ( Adobe After Effects/ Premiere Pro/ Sony Vegas Pro ) though not heavy editing, just 1080p and perhaps gaming a little bit.

I currently own an AMD Athlon X2 240 2.8 GHz dual core CPU, so I guess any quad-core CPU will be a huge upgrade for me basically in everything, especially in video editing where more cores are always better, however I need your opinion for the CPU for both video editing and gaming.

Oh, I also plan to overclock it to about 4 GHz or a bit less, not more than 4 though because I have never done overclocking so I dont wanna risk anything.

 

Specifications of the CPU can be found at the link down bellow

 

http://ark.intel.com...6-GTs-Intel-QPI


Edited by Vladimir123, 09 August 2015 - 07:34 AM.

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you will find it is a very good cpu for what you require (even though it is an older intel achitechture), much faster than your current amd X2 240.

can't speak for games because i don't really play games, plus i'm a linux user, but would think any game you play would be at least as good if not better than the 240, as for video editing then you will notice a massive difference in time taken/saved.

 

i currently run a similar cpu, i7 920 and have found it to be more than adequate for everything i do even though my setup is now nearly 7 years old it is still fast enough today that i don't see a need to upgrade my system any time soon. i'll wait at least until intel skylake comes out with their socket 2011 cpu's or whatever socket it will be, can't remember now, and then i will probably get at least a 6 core.12 threaded cpu along with quad memory and all the other goodies like sata 3.2 and usb 3.1 etc. etc. i expect the motherboard will have.

 

if you hadn't already bought the E5620, i'd also suggest looking at the 6 core xeons out there going cheap at the moment too because all the servers that used them are getting replaced/upgraded, was thinking about buying a xeon x5690 myself to swap with my 920 just as a temporary upgrade but finally decided against it and will wait until i buy a complete new system.

 

anyway i think you'll find the money well spent for the performance gains over the 240 even though x58 and e5620 are old they are still not slow in my experience. :thumbsup:

 

240 :- http://www.cpubenchm...I X2 240&id=132

e5620 :- http://www.cpubenchm...E5620 @ 2.40GHz

 

:popcorn:


Edited by terry1966, 12 August 2015 - 08:24 PM.

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Hi,

 

Not sure if the MSI X58 Pro supports the Xeon you have...

http://www.msi.com/s...tml#support-cpu


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i don't have a xeon, i have an i7 920 cpu but as to compatibility it may not show up in the list, but i'm pretty sure all socket 1366 cpu's are compatible. (quad cores anyway.)

so even tho your e5620 isn't showing in your list i'd be surprised if it didn't work.

 

here's the cpu compatiblity list for my motherboard :- http://www.gigabyte....p.aspx?pid=3449

 

notice it doesn't show the xeon x5690 as being compatible, yet i know or should say have read of a few people buying it and just dropping it into the motherboard in place of an i7 920 cpu and it working just fine, and why i was considering going that way for a short time upgrade but decided not to.

 

only thing i might be concerned with in your case though is if you needed to do a bios upgrade before the cpu would work is that you don't own another compatible cpu to use to do the upgrade, pretty sure tho.it will just drop in and work.

 

:popcorn:

 

ooops sorry sleepydude, took you to be the op. :rofl:


Edited by terry1966, 13 August 2015 - 03:07 PM.

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Hello,

Thank you for your replies.

Yeah, indeed the i7 920-950 are very similar to the Xeon E5620, difference among these CPUs isnt " huge ", you're right.
About the 6 cores Xeon you're suggesting, unfortunately I was on a very low budget so I could not afford buying any of those 6 cores Xeon CPUs because they cost more than the one I bought, the one I bought cost me $23 + free shipping ( used ), the most expensive part in this upgrade is the motherboard which is about $83.
I know any of those 6 cores Xeon CPUs would be much better than the E5620, but since that's out of my budget let's skip that :)
But on the other side .. you're again right, I use my athlon CPU since 2010 and I got used to it, now it will surely be a huge upgrade to a quad core CPU in everything I guess, especially in video editing. I dont think I could buy anything better for less / the same price, so I dont regret at all.

@SleepyDude
I am fully aware that this type of models are not in the official supported CPUs list for the motherboard but I can assure you that the motherboard supports it, it's an LGA 1366 socket motherboard and the CPU is compatible only with LGA 1366 socket type of motherboards, I have confirmed this with other people as well.


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yep video editing will make a huge difference because it will actually utilise 8 threads over just the 2 threads of your current cpu, and even more so when overclocked, not sure if you'll be able to hit the 4ghz your aiming for with a 24/7 stable oc because each cpu is different but 3.8ghz i'd expect should be easy enough.

 

personally i set my daily oc at 3.6 for my i7 and run it at that for years, even though i could have set it higher if i wanted for 24/7 use, think i had it at 4.45ghz in an oc comp, not 24/7 stable but just stable enough to run whatever tests need at the time , recently tho i've dropped it to 3.2 just to try and save a bit on my electric bill. :rofl:

 

:popcorn:


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Well, after all I dont have to go for 4 GHz, I guess leaving it at 3,6 or 3,8 ghz max would be good as well.
At first I was worried about how much my electric bill would increase after overclocking the CPU but my friend says it will barely be visible unless Im rendering 24/7, which ofcourse I wont be :)
What do you think about that ? Since you've done this already, did your electric bill increase too much after overclocking ?
Also, do you mind telling me something more, such as, is your PC 24/7 on ? Do you do video editing or any other heavy - CPU intensive tasks ?


Edited by Vladimir123, 14 August 2015 - 03:09 AM.

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my bill decreased a lot, but then again i was running it 100% load 24/7 running fah, so when i stopped folding and decreased the oc i noticed a good savings, sorry no £/$ amounts because i didn't really work it out but it was definitely an amount that was noticable otherwise i'd still be folding 24/7.

 

 

My rig:

920 D0 @ 3.6GHz
ASUS P6T SE
2x HD4870 CF
6GB 1333MHz
DVD-RW
4x 120mm S-Flex 1200RPM
1x HDD 7200RPM

From the wall this machine sucks up:

Idle: 240W
Load: 760W

That's just the base unit, i.e. no monitor.

http://forums.hexus....on-figures.html

 

notice his massive difference between idle and full load power consumption, yes his dual gpu's are going to be the cause of most of that but even with a single gpu i'd expect about 400W total system draw.

 

here's some more links on power draw for the 920,

http://www.pcstats.c...eid=2582&page=3

http://hothardware.c...rocessor?page=5

 

your e5620 will be lower but will still be a lot higher than it's stock when oc'd.

 

:popcorn:

 

info on what fah is :- https://folding.stanford.edu/

 

if you want to test the power draw yourself you'll need something like this, :- http://www.amazon.co...3EER6TBRX9CPV4M

not a recommendation just an example of a power monitoring device.

 

also when oc'ing make sure you keep a close eye on your temps, personally i have a good watercooling setup with triple rad so my temps were below 70C at full load folding 24/7, i'd suggest you try and keep yours about the same regardless of what oc your able to do that at, might be your only able to go to 3.2 before temps go higher, if so then i'd set my oc to 3.2 and be happy with it.


Edited by terry1966, 14 August 2015 - 01:17 PM.

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Well, I wont be running my PC 24/7 nor I will be video editing all the time, but I am still worried about this because I am not the one who pays the bill ( my father does, Im a minor ), I dont wanna get him to pay much more than the ammount he pays now.

 

Since I wont be running my PC 24/7 .. do you think there will be any big difference in the bills ? On average we pay $40 per month ( electric bill ), and to be honest I couldnt see any difference as for the ammount we used to pay before I started video editing and after.


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can't say because it depends on how often you use the pc etc, it might work out at a couple of dollars extra a month and nothing the bill payer will notice only time will tell, if it is to much then drop the oc.

 

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Right, alright I get your point terry1966.

Uhm, I was wondering if I could use my current RAM stick to the " new " motherboard, is it compatible ? I cant find any list online of compatible RAMs for the motherboard.
Thing is when I tried to identify my RAM's manufacturer by using CPU-Z I noticed a blank field in the " Manufacturer " name.
Other than that my RAM is 4 GB DDR3 1600 MHz, 1,5V, another guy told me that any RAM which is bellow 1,5V will work but I need to make sure for this.


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yes i'd be surprised if your 4GB ddr3 1600Mhz, 1.5V stick didn't work, no guarantee's though but i don't foresee a problem, ram is ram after all, just as long as it has a type (ddr3 in your case.),size (4GB) and voltage rating (1.5V) used by the motherboard then you'll find it will usually work just fine, and that motherboard has been tested to work with some 4GB sticks at 1600Mhz in triple channel mode just fine.

 

pdf link to memory test report of that motherboard :- http://www.msi.com/f...t/TR10_1744.pdf

 

single stick will run in single channel mode, 2 sticks will run in dual channel mode and 3 sticks will run in triple channel mode, personally i have 3x2GB 1600Mhz, 1.5V sticks in my system.

 

check out the motherboards manual for ram slots to use etc. etc.

 

:popcorn:


Edited by terry1966, 16 August 2015 - 03:02 PM.

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Hi

 

Dont worry brother

 

Its easy to overclock the 1366 CPUs

i wrote a little tutorial about it

 

http://extreme.pcgam...-zu-setfsb.html

 

its written in german but u can translate it maybe

but i will explain it in a few steps

 

1.

You need to find out which Clock Generator ur Motherboard uses

Mostly its a Winbond one or on Server Mothboards the IDTCV183-1A or Realtek 868M

Unfortunately there is no docu about the Realtek 868 so u could ask me about confidential papers in this case.

 

2.

 

Find out how the pinout of the clock generator looks like.

In case of the Supermicro X8DTi-F Motherboard its like that

 

780401d1414059715-how-ubertakten-mit-rw-

 

780403d1414060037-how-ubertakten-mit-rw-

 

As you see the pins FSA FSB and FSC are responsible for the BCLK of 133MHz Strap set 1

 

So there a 2 Options now

The soft and hard way

 

U could fix the strap by modifying ur clock generator to 166MHz --> its mostly stable, better than pure BCLK OC

Or u can change the BCLK by accessing the bitregisters of the clock generator

 

Step 1.

 

U have to find out the address in the SMBus of your clock generator

On ICH10R and W83667HG (Socket 1366) SMBus and W83667 (Socket 1156) there are 2 PPLs, 0x2D and 0x3D

0x3D is a clone of 0x2D so u have to apply the settings to 0x2D

 

NOTE: you have to access the clock generator by using WORD Block mode, byte access mode wont work

 

 

Now we modify the bits in Byte 17 to adjust the BCLK of the CPU, easy and simple

780401d1414059715-how-ubertakten-mit-rw-

 

 

Lower value means higher BCLK

 

780404d1414060207-how-ubertakten-mit-rw-

Everything is done already because the serverboards apply a high voltage so you dont have to adjust it

780739d1414176615-how-ubertakten-mit-rw-

 

If you need higher voltages you can access them by using the Super I/O Chip registers in Non-GPIO Mode

 

If u want to save the values just change the last bit 7 in byte 0 of the clock generator 0x2D to 1 to save the settings in the SMBus and write them into the BMC Rom

 

NOTE:

 

You can find this SMBus addresses in ur Chipset or IOH/ICH docu, or extended explanations and registers in ES datasheets of Intel and AMI

 

Make sure that the settings work because they wont be resetted even after a CMOS Reset!!!!, its kind of factory mode, because usually this byte is read only

 

780407d1414061156-how-ubertakten-mit-rw-

 

Unfortunately there is no way to change the Straps by software because these values are latched

the only way would be to modify the motherboard, video coming soon

 

NOTE:

 

Software to access SMBus and Clock Generator

 

MS-DOS (with DOSSMB Driver), RW-Everything

 

You can also change the QPI Link Data Rate by using RW-Everything or DosSMB if you change some values in the I/O Space

More about that coming soon..

 

U can easily  reach a frequency of 4GHz


Edited by Knogle, 16 August 2015 - 03:53 PM.

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your guide is not relevent in this case and has a very good chance of killing the system if your not 100% sure on what your doing (then again all overclocking does. :D ), don't think i've used such a method to oc since about 2005 and with an amd64 4000+ cpu 939 system where the needed settings weren't available in the bios to overclock any other way..

 

in my opinion a much better guide to follow in this case would be this one :- http://www.overclock...-core-i3-i5-i7/ even tho it doesn't specifically mention xeons, same rules apply.

 

:popcorn:


Edited by terry1966, 17 August 2015 - 04:57 PM.

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Ahoy brothers

Just checked out the E5620 on MSI X58 Pro-E

Its possible to run it on 4,4GHz without problems

 

Check this out

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Not broken yet

 

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i will try lower voltages tomorrow..


Edited by Knogle, 18 August 2015 - 03:08 PM.

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