[daveyboyd]

Hello, I am in the process of purchasing a new chip for my pc, its an Athlon 3200 XP, I currently have an Athlon 2400+ XP chip installed. My question is this...Is it just a simple case of switching the chips or is there something else I need to do/purchase in order to upgrade?

Also is the new 64 chipset compatible with the XP chipset or will I need a new motherboard?

I hope this makes sense, thanks in advance, Dave

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Ok, first off what kind of motherboard do you have, because if the motherboard you have is compatable with the new processor, then yes, all you have to do is switch out the chips, but if its not compatable then you have to buy a new motherboard that can handle the speed of the new CPU.

--Chris

[cheathawk1]

Ok, first off what kind of motherboard do you have, because if the motherboard you have is compatable with the new processor, then yes, all you have to do is switch out the chips, but if its not compatable then you have to buy a new motherboard that can handle the speed of the new CPU.

--Chris

[daveyboyd]

Ok, how do I find that out? I have Si Soft Sandra software but what am I looking for on the diagnostic report?

[daveyboyd]

Ok here is my Si Soft results for my system . . .

SiSoftware Sandra

System
Manufacturer : Time Computers
Model : KM266-8235
ID : FFFFFFFF-FFFFFFFF-FFFFFFFF-FFFFFFFF

Mainboard
Manufacturer : MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO., LTD
MP Support : 1 CPU(s)
MPS Version : 1.40
Model : MS-6390
System BIOS : 03/20/2003-KM266-8235-6A6LVM4DC-00
Chipset : VIA KT266/A, KT333/A

System Memory Controller
Location : Mainboard
Error Correction Capability : None
Number of Memory Slots : 2
Maximum Installable Memory : 512MB
Bank0/1 - A0 : DIMM 512MB
Bank2/3 - A1 : DIMM 512MB

Chipset 1
Model : VIA Technologies Inc VT8375 ProSavageDDR PM266/KM266 CPU to PCI Bridge
Bus(es) : ISA AGP PCI IMB USB i2c/SMBus
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 134MHz (268MHz data rate)
Maximum FSB Speed / Max Memory Speed : 2x 133MHz / 2x 133MHz
Width : 64-bit
IO Queue Depth : 4 request(s)

Chipset 1 Hub Interface
Type : V-Link
Width : 8-bit
Full Duplex : Yes
Multiplier : 1/1x
Speed : 4x 66MHz (264MHz data rate)
IO Queue Depth : 9 request(s)

Logical/Chipset 1 Memory Banks
Bank 0 : 256MB DDR-SDRAM 2.5-3-3-7CL 2CMD
Bank 1 : 256MB DDR-SDRAM 2.5-3-3-7CL 2CMD
Bank 2 : 256MB DDR-SDRAM 2.5-3-3-7CL 2CMD
Bank 3 : 256MB DDR-SDRAM 2.5-3-3-7CL 2CMD
Bank Interleave : 4-way
Speed : 2x 134MHz (268MHz data rate)
Multiplier : 1/1x
Width : 64-bit
Power Save Mode : No
Fixed Hole Present : No

APIC 1
Version : 0.03
Speed : 16MHz
Multiplier : 1/2x
Maximum Interrupts : 24
IRQ Handler Engaged : Yes
Enhanced Support : Yes

Memory Module(s)
Memory Module 1 : 64MX64U-26A 011203C2 512MB 16x(32Mx8) DDR-SDRAM PC2100U-233-750 (CL2.5 up to 143MHz) (CL2 up to 133MHz)
Memory Module 2 : 64MX64U-26B 02070225 512MB 16x(32Mx8) DDR-SDRAM PC2100U-2533-750 (CL2.5 up to 133MHz) (CL2 up to 100MHz)

Environment Monitor 1
Model : Winbond W83697(T)HF ISA
Version : 6.00
Mainboard Specific Support : No

Temperature Sensor(s)
Board Temperature : 31.0°C / 87.8°F
CPU Temperature : 45.5°C / 113.9°F

Cooling Device(s)
Auto Fan Speed Control : No
Chassis Fan Speed : 2813rpm
CPU Fan Speed : 5273rpm

Voltage Sensor(s)
CPU Voltage : 1.65V
+3.3V Voltage : 3.31V
+5V Voltage : 4.84V
+12V Voltage : 11.98V
-12V Voltage : -12.86V
-5V Voltage : -5.15V
Standby Voltage : 5.02V
Battery Voltage : 2.99V

AGP Bus(es) on Hub 1
Version : 2.00
Speed : 4x 66MHz (264MHz data rate)
Multiplier : 1/2x
Fast-Writes Enabled : No
Side Band Enabled : Yes
Aperture Size : 128MB

PCI Bus(es) on Hub 1
Version : 2.10
Number of Bridges : 1
PCI Bus 0 : PCI (33MHz)
Multiplier : 1/4x

LPC Hub Controller 1
Model : VIA Technologies Inc VT8235 PCI to ISA Bridge
ACPI Power Management Enabled : Yes
Multiplier : 1/4x
Speed : 8MHz
DMA Multiplier : 1/2x
DMA Speed : 4MHz

USB Controller 1
Model : VIA Technologies Inc VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (All VIA Chipsets)
Version : 1.10
Interface : UHCI
Channels : 2
Speed : 48MHz
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

USB Controller 2
Model : VIA Technologies Inc VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (All VIA Chipsets)
Version : 1.10
Interface : UHCI
Channels : 2
Speed : 48MHz
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

USB Controller 3
Model : VIA Technologies Inc VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (All VIA Chipsets)
Version : 1.10
Interface : UHCI
Channels : 2
Speed : 48MHz
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

USB Controller 4
Model : Micro-Star International Co Ltd (MSI) VT6202 USB 2.0 Enhanced Host Controller
Version : 2.00
Specification : 1.00
Interface : EHCI
Channels : 6
Companion Controllers : 3
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps) High (480Mbps)
Addressing Support : 32-bit
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

System SMBus Controller 1
Model : VIA VT823x SMBus
Advanced TCO Mode Enabled : No
Slave Device Enabled : No
PEC Support : No
Speed : 16kHz

Expansion Slot(s)
PCI0 (1h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Full-Length Used (VIA Technologies Inc VT8633 Apollo Pro 266 CPU to AGP Controller)
PCI1 (2h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Full-Length Available
PCI2 (3h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Full-Length Available
PCI3 (4h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Full-Length Available
AGP (8h) : AGP 32-bit +5V Full-Length Available (CardExpert Technology GeForce FX 5200 [NV34.3])

Port Connector
PRIMARY IDE : None - ATA / None
SECONDARY IDE : None - ATA / None
FDD : 8251 FIFO - Floppy Disk / None
COM1 : Serial Port 16450 - 9 Pin Dual Inline / DB-9 pin male
COM2 : Serial Port 16450 - 9 Pin Dual Inline / DB-9 pin male
LPT1 : Parallel Port ECP/EPP - DB-25 pin female / DB-25 pin female
Keyboard : Keyboard - PS/2 / PS/2
PS/2 Mouse : Mouse - PS/2 / PS/2
USB : USB - None / None
AUDIO : Audio - None / None

Performance Tips
Notice 224 : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate.
Warning 2507 : Mainboard has too few memory slots. Upgrading the memory may be difficult or expensive.
Warning 2508 : All memory slots are full. Upgrading the memory may be difficult or expensive.
Warning 100 : Large memory sizes should be made of Registered/Buffered memory.
Tip 2546 : Large memory modules should be ECC/Parity.
Tip 2 : Double-click tip or press Enter while a tip is selected for more information about the tip.


Cn anyone tell me if I am good to upgrade to an Athlon 3200 or even a 64bit Chip?
Thanks Dave

[hacp]

Sorry to dissapoint you, but your processor is as high as it gets for that motherboard.

[Hemal]

I would recommend you buying a new 64 bit AMD Socket 754 or look for 939 but make sure your chip is compatible with your motherboard

[jrm20]

Your motherboard is socket A, and you cant go any higher with that motherboard as hacp said. Socket A (your motherboard) is different than amd 64 bit processors and they are not compatible.

Try and save up for a brand new pc, i would go with custom built and buy the parts from a website and put them together or have someone put it together.

www.newegg.com is an awesome site of computers and computer hardware, everything you would ever need.

[Rockster2U]

daveyboyd:

One has to be careful what they read these days. Just because it appears in print, doesn't mean its so. Now that you are feeling dejected re: upgrading your CPU, I am going to tell you, there is hope.

An AMD Mobile Athlon XP-M 3000+ (DTR) Barton 266MHz FSB 512KB L2 Cache Socket A Processor will most likely work in your machine but will probably require a BIOS update. You can check this out for further verification. If a new BIOS won't permit you to run the necessary multiplier, there are a couple of software solutions that can be used.

[daveyboyd]

I have purchased this chip

http://cgi.ebay.co.u...me=STRK:MEWN:IT

What are these bios upgrades you speak of, you will have to excuse me as I am a novice when it comes to the internal workings of a computer!

[Rockster2U]

Well, that's a fine used processor but, as you've already been told - it won't work on your motherboard.

[daveyboyd]

Thanks for reply, could you suggest a motherboard to buy that will be compatible I have been looking but dont really know what I am looking for, I was looking at this one

http://computing.kel...1/10758363.html

What du think?

[Rockster2U]

I think a few others have tried to tell you that it would be smarter to save your money and purchase the necessary components for a new computer as opposed to spending money to upgrade your current system. I concur with their advice.

I have already made a recommendation as to a processor which might work with your system - the AMD Mobile 3000+ ............. albeit with a warning that you need to research this further.

Now you have a dilemma - you purchased a CPU that is not compatable with your motherboard and your first inclination is to find a compatable motherboard. At first blush, this may seem like a logical progression but .......... your memory is PC2100 so thats not going to work with a new motherboard for this XP3200+ CPU which requires PC3200 or 400MHz memory. Then, one would have to question your power supply, followed by your case, followed by .......... and - it winds up that you would have been better off to start from scratch or going with a "barebones" system as opposed to following the path you are currently pursuing.

My best guidance would be to sell the CPU you just bought and keep your existing system as is until you can afford a new system and then investigate building something with a socket 939 motherboard and CPU.

Edited by Rockster2U, 18 June 2005 - 06:54 AM.

[daveyboyd]

Thanks for your help, I have decided to abort my upgrade and concentrate on a new build, didnt realise there was so much too it, thanks again!

[Rockster2U]

I think you'll be happier that way and its certainly a better use of your money.

Regards,