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Best Answer Channeal , 17 January 2017 - 01:02 PM

Hello there, Just to let you know that Terry extremely kindly sent me the old DVD writer with an IDE connector which he found in an old PC. This afternoon, I successfully managed to install it... Go to the full post »


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Thanks very much to both of you for your messages,

 

Yes, I guess it is certainly true that I do like a challenge! :lol:  I honestly do not get what the big deal is with changing the DVD drive on the laptop though. Once I had managed to get the right model, it was just about one of the easiest computer-related jobs I have ever done! Maybe it is just unusually easy on with my laptop model? :unsure: 

 

Was very unsure about the SATA to IDE adaptor thing, Terry. (Should have asked, I know!). On the model I originally puchased, I couldn't work out where the second connector to the power supply went. At the moment it fits next to the IDE connector. 

 

They have offered me another DVD drive with an IDE connector (an OEM model, though am not sure if that matters) Or I could have my money back. Not sure what to do at the moment.

 

Thanks to you both for your seasonal wishes. I am sick with a really horrible winter bug at the moment, so am likely to be stumbling, rather than dancing my way through Christmas! :) I hope you both have a really great Christmas.

 

Gotta somehow attempt to make some mince pies and cheesecake now! :(

 

Take care - and thanks to you both for all your help throughout 2016.

 

Chris.  :cheers:


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sometimes laptops need more or less stripping down to change things, other times things are really easy and it's just a case of one or two screws to swap things around.

 

to straight fit a sata dvd drive in your pc you'd need 3 things.

 

first a spare sata port on the motherboard, some images to show what sata ports look like on a motherboard :- https://www.google.c...iw=1293&bih=654

 

second you'd need a sata cable :- https://www.amazon.c...x/dp/B002UUSX5C

 

third and finally because it sounds like your power supply (psu.) leads don't have a sata connection, you'd need a molex (4pin white end) to sata (black end) adapter.

this example allows you to power two sata devices from one molex power lead connection from the psu.. :- https://www.amazon.c...HM2M3ZY2KQGANEQ

 

just saw this 2 in one pack while checking the links worked :- https://www.amazon.c...75SGC2MJF2T2SRP

 

oem just means the part manufacturer will not be liable if anything goes wrong with the part and you'll have to deal with the reseller/retailer and not the manufacturer to sort out any problems with the part. dvd drive in this case.

probably better explanations of oem :- http://www.webopedia...TERM/O/OEM.htmland here https://en.wikipedia...nt_manufacturer

 

there is no right or wrong decision you can make in my opinion, if you do have free sata ports on the motherboard i'd probably tell them to ship you the sata drive and buy the needed cables (plus when you're feeling brave enough and decide to build your own next pc instead of buying straight from the shop you can use it again in that. i think you've got the bug so won't be able to not build your own next pc. :D ),

 

if there's not then you have another decision either just get them to send the oem ide drive. (most parts i use when building are oem parts because they are cheaper.) and fit that or still stick with sending the sata drive but use a sata to ide adaptor for now and you can then still use the drive in your new build without adaptors (ide drive could be used in new build to with an adapter). ;) .https://www.amazon.c...d/dp/B009SO7R0U

 

in my opinion there are no real benefits or drawbacks to using either a sata or ide dvd drive because the extra speed capabilities of sata ports over ide connections are not able to be utilized by optical drive read/write speeds anyway. (different with hard drives, sata drives are always faster/best option and why the ide connection is old tech and hardly ever/if at all now seen on motherboards or devices.)

 

just spent more or less 3 days in bed (started sunday) shivering and sweating myself even though i didn't really feel that unwell and still don't except i now have sniffles and a cough as last remaining symptoms of my man flu, so hope you get well soon enough to really enjoy your christmas. :thumbsup:

 

:popcorn:


Edited by terry1966, 23 December 2016 - 07:54 AM.

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Thanks Terry,

Sounds like you have had the same bug that I have. Am still feeling pretty unwell; it doesn't seem to be in any hurry to leave me! :(

Yikes! Although I would love to do it, I doubt that I would ever be clever enough to build my own computer! In my dreams, maybe! ;)

So..... as I suspected I was just lucky as far as being able to replace the notebook DVD player was concerned. Btw, I checked whether I could remove the old one before attempting to order a new one. I didn't just go ahead and recklessly order a new one without believing I had a good chance of being able to install it! :)

Thanks for the info about adaptors etc. Still haven't definitely decided, but think I will probably stick with the player with the IDE connection, rather than messing about with adaptor cables.

Many thanks
Chris.
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Hello Phill and Terry,
 
I would like to ask you both for your advice about something slightly out of the ordinary in relation to the new DVD drive for my old Dell laptop, the purchase of which seems to have been fraught with problems from the start. :(
 
As I told you previously, I was informed that the drive I had ordered from pcupgrade.co.uk (which seems to also be associated with laptopparts.co.uk) did not actually come with an IDE connection as advertised. I was told though that there was another drive available which did have an IDE connection and I emailed them back on the 28th December and told them that I would like to purchase the alternative drive. To date, I have not received an answer.
 
Meanwhile, the new year did not start well for us as on the 1st January we received a message on our answerphone from the Fraud Squad at a bank with which we hold a credit card. We had a bit of a problem ringing them back, as although the message asked for me by name to phone them, when I phoned back they said they had to speak to my husband (who was out at the time, but is the main cardholder). He however realised that he did not know his pin number etc (although he is the main cardholder, I am actually the only one who still uses the card now), so we waited until Tuesday when we could actually go into a branch and reset his security details. (Even that didn't go smoothly, as when we went to our local branch we found that it had been closed down permanently so we had to travel further afield).
 
Having sorted all that out, my husband phoned the Fraud Squad back and learned that the police had informed them that my card was one of a batch which the police had told them had been used fraudulently (by somebody in the US I believe). I was called in to identify various purchases and there were indeed a few that I did not recognise (one of which was a US restaurant). They immediately closed down the account and I have now received a new card.
 
The Bank told us that they did not know how the problem with our card arose: it could have been through a purchase made in a shop, or through an online purchase. So, we have no way of knowing what exactly happened and absolutely no grounds whatsoever to think that it was connected with the attempted purchase of the DVD drive. The thing is though, for some reason I feel reluctant to contact the website again about purchasing the alternative drive offered. For one thing, they told me at first they had left a message on our answer phone when they rang to tell me the original drive was found to not have an IDE connection, although we were just leaving the house at the time and there was no message. (Btw, with the initial attempted purchase, I  was told that the payment had been authorised, but would not be debited until the order had been reviewed.)
 
What I am asking you guys now is whether either of you have ever used pcupgrade.co.uk (or laptopparts.co.uk) and if you think it is okay to proceed with the purchase. 
 
I guess it is only natural to feel a bit over-cautious when something like this has happened; it just leaves a nasty taste in your mouth! :(
 
Chris.

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Hello Chris,

 

Sorry to hear that you have been the victim/s of such unscrupulous behaviour  :(

 

Never dealt with either company but having checked can see that pcupgrade.co.uk gets decent reviews here while laptopparts.co.uk basically the same company in all but name only has a single 2008 TrustPilot review that I could find here nothing much to go on I`m afraid.

 

I would phone pcupgrade.co.uk rather than email them as that way they cannot say "sorry that you have been overlooked" there is nothing to suggest the fraud was linked to them and for extra security if you do make the purchase do it through your bank in branch.

 

The Bank told us that they did not know how the problem with our card arose: it could have been through a purchase made in a shop, or through an online purchase.

 

 

That is a rather blase attitude from your bank, it is for their fraud department to find out how this happened, hopefully they will refund your cash asap.


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must admit i'm a bit confused, thought you had changed the laptop drive with no problems and it was the dvd for your desktop you were having issues with.

 

anyway like phil i've never used or heard of those companies, personally i'd get my money back/cancel the order and get the correct drive needed for your laptop from one of these companies if your having problems with them.

 

amazon :- https://www.amazon.co.uk/

overclockers :- https://www.overclockers.co.uk/

scan :- https://www.scan.co.uk/

dabs (now known as bt shop) :- http://www.shop.bt.c...y/storage/11003

 

haven't used dabs in years and didn't even know it was now known as bt shop, but i've used all the above with great success, they may not be the cheapest for parts but all have given me no problems with my orders.

amazon and overclockers i can verify have/had great customer support when there's an issue that needs sorting. amazon is now my usual source for parts.

 

must admit you'll probably only find ide laptop dvd drives on amazon, but a quick phone call to one of the other sites and they could probably source an ide drive for you.

 

:popcorn:


Edited by terry1966, 08 January 2017 - 03:13 PM.

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Hello guys - and thank you both for your replies.

First of all - am really sorry for confusing you Terry. I first read your message on my phone during a brief break in a movie we were watching tonight and I really just couldn't work out why on earth you were confused. Then just now I read my original message and realised that I had made a really stupid mistake!

At the beginning of my message, I said 'my old Dell laptop' instead of 'my old Dell desktop'. Such a silly mistake - and the silliest thing is the fact that I read the message over a couple of times and didn't spot the mistake! My only defence is the fact that I posted the message in a bit of a hurry this morning, before going out. The mistake may have been further compounded by the fact that I mentioned the fact that pcupdate.co.uk is associated with laptopparts.co.uk (because some of the emails they sent were from the latter company). The drive I was buying from pcupdate was however definitely a desktop drive and not a laptop drive.

Just to clarify then, my old XP desktop is a Dell Dimension, while my laptop is a Sony Vaio. Once again, apologies for confusing you. (If it is any consolation, I am even better at confusing myself than I am other people! :) )

Phill, hope I didn't confuse you too. I don't think we are going to be charged for the dodgy purchases, though we will have to see when we get our next statement. I think the lady on the phone said something about at least one of the payments being declined anyway. I wasn't very inclined to ask her a lot of questions as she really snapped at me once when she asked about one of the payments and I mentioned another one of a similar amount around the same time which was genuine. She told me very crossly to only answer the questions she asked - so after that I just said as little as possible. It was not necessary for her to snap at me like that! :)

Writing my message here today made me think about what else I had purchased recently - and funnily enough (in light of the stupid error I made in my message) my thoughts turned to the laptop drive I purchased. This was from a company called drives-storage.co.uk which was the only place where I could find a drive which was specifically mentioned as being for a Sony Vaio. I looked them up in Google this afternoon and a site called scamadviser.com came up in the search results. If this site is to be believed, drives-storage.co.uk is very risky because of possible links with China. Very interesting!

I only normally buy online from sites I know well like Amazon and am not really very savvy about the possible dangers. Will certainly be more careful in the future though!

Once again, apologies for the error. I hope you both have a good week, whether at work or elsewhere.

Chris.

Edited by Channeal, 08 January 2017 - 06:51 PM.

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2nd Message:

 

Just for your information guys, the laptop DVD drive I purchased can be found at http://www.drives-st...vdrw-drive-7773 It is working well! 

 

The first DVD drive I tried to purchase for the Dell desktop was http://www.pcupgrade...3&categoryid=84 It is still showing as having and IDE connection.

 

The alternative drive they gave me is http://www.pcupgrade...5&categoryid=84 It says only one is remaining! :(

 

Chris.


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Hello Chris,

 

Those drive details Sony DVD Writer DRU-190A IDE Super Multi RAM 20x Retail black + beige bezel show an IDE drive at Amazon and CCL who I have used Samsung SH-S222A 22x Dual Layer IDE BLACK DVD-Rewritable OEM Boxed

 
drives-storage.co.uk info here
 
Got to dash, off to the dentist  :(

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Thanks very much Phill,

 

Am confused, I'm afraid (as usual!).

 

When I click on your first link, it only shows used drives. Is that correct, or am I missing something?

 

Your second link is showing the item as being discontinued now.

 

DVD drives with IDE connectors seem extremely hard to find. Maybe I should just buy the one at pcupgrade before that too goes!

 

 

 

drives-storage.co.uk info here

 

I did really well finding that site then!  :bashhead: The drive they sent is great though, so cannot fault them there!

 

 

 

Hope you get on well at the dentist. I am supposed to be going on Thursday to have a crown fitted. Might cancel though as am not too well at the moment and I am booked in for a whole hour's session! :(

 

Chris

 

 

EDIT. The following search threw up a couple of possibilities. Are either of you familiar with any of the seller sites: -

 

https://www.google.c...190189630096330

 

 

 

2nd EDIT What do you guys think of the following? The site is apparently Google Certified (whatever that means!)

 

http://transparent-u...cJrkaAhrp8P8HAQ

 

Thank you.


Edited by Channeal, 09 January 2017 - 01:24 PM.

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Hello Chris,

 

Sorry my fault, being in a rush I never explained what I was getting at  :headhurt:

 

 
Sony DVD Writer DRU-190A IDE Super Multi RAM 20x Retail black + beige bezel
 
Samsung SH-S222A 22x Dual Layer IDE BLACK DVD-Rewritable OEM Boxed

 

 

 

I used the product information above from your reply # 53, did a Google search and both drives came up on different sites listed as IDE type drives, either the drive that you were sent is not the one that you ordered or each of the links where the drive and specs we have looked at are showing the wrong info  :headscratch:

 

Honest answer is that I would purchase a refurbished drive from a reputable seller who offers the quickest free delivery time  :)

 

Google Certified shops have a track record that you can check, see info here

 

All good at the dentist thanks and hopefully you will soon be well enough to have your crown fitted  :thumbsup:

 


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Hello Phill,

 

No, not your fault at all, but mine. I should have realised what you were talking about! I seem to have been exceptionally dozy this week and to have been doing EVERYTHING wrong (even more so than normal!). Maybe it is because a month of illness (a cold/flu virus for 3 weeks, followed by a nasty stomach bug at the weekend) has left me feeling very tired and run down. I shouldn't make excuses though; it is probably just because my brain is getting old and worn out! :(

 

Anyway, back to business.... the first drive I attempted to purchase was never sent to me. Instead, I received the following email: -

 

pcupdate.jpg

 

So, according to them the drive they found in their stock room did not have an IDE connection. Like you, I searched and found that it should have had one though. Don't know if this was somehow true, or if they just picked up the wrong model. And if they did discover the details were wrong, why didn't they change them on their website? I guess we will never know what the truth is!!!!! 

 

Whatever happened, I am beginning to think that I am just not meant to buy this thing!!!! :(

 

Btw, can you yourself see any problem with what Terry kindly suggested i.e. buying a drive with a SATA connection and also buying the adapter to convert it to IDE?

 

Thank you.

 

 


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you don't need a sata to ide adaptor as long as your motherboard has a spare sata port, all you need is a sata cable and maybe a molex to sata converter power lead.

personally that's the way i'd go.

 

i'll have a look in some of my old pc's and if i have dvd writer that's ide you can have it for free, i'll let you know later when i have the time to check them think they are all cd rw or dvd rom drives though.

 

:popcorn:

 

you're in luck, second pc i looked in has an ide philips dvd rw dl drive, haven't taken it out to see model number and have no way at the moment to test it, but it's yours if you want it just send me a pm.

 

ok got it out and this is it :- https://www.novatech...tml#specdetails


Edited by terry1966, 10 January 2017 - 12:08 PM.

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Nice one Terry  :thumbsup:

 

Problem solved Chris  :)


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Hello Terry

It is 12:50 a.m. We have had visitors tonight (my son and his wife came round because it was my husband's birthday and we had an Indian takeaway - though not sure if that was wise for me, as have had a dodgy stomach the past few days! :)). Anyway, just had a quick look at my emails just before going to bed - and was pretty stunned to see that you are offering me the DVD drive you have discovered. Wow! That is really so very kind of you and I am very grateful.

I can't let you give me the DVD drive for nothing though, I really can't. I will have to give you something for it. You will need to be reimbursed for the cost of postage and packing at the very least!

Anyway, I will pm you tomorrow. Is it safe to send you my address in a pm? I really have no idea about this.

Once again, thank you so very much. Things like this really restore ones faith in human nature! :)

Chris.
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