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iammykyl checked the specs for you and that cpu cooler would fit in your case, so don't see the need to change it for an evercool or titan cpu cooler.

 

also no idea why you still think you need low profile ram, you don't, any ram will do with that Noctua NH-L9x65, but if you're set on low profile ram then you'll have to find images to look at because sorry i don't know for definite what ram is going to be low profile just by their model numbers.

 

the reason people usually need low profile ram is because they are using a cpu cooler that over hangs the ram slots and doesn't give enough clearance with higher ram. an example in below video at about the 1.30 minute mark.

 

 

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Formido, let's start with the case which will work, gets quite good reviews as well.    some notes though.

It does not have USB 3,0 front port.

The PSU is poor, > Ihttps://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817154027 (this is a TFX form factor)   Your selected replacement is a SF form cactor, is too big, will not fit.

 

Case fan reported as noisy.  Note you include a Noctua case fan, good choice. 

Cooler, NF-A9x1465mm low profile will be OK in the case which is 3.9" wide, = 99.06mm.
Due to its compact heatsink and the 14mm thin NF-A9x14 low profile fan, the NH-L9x65 stands only 65mm tall (the same height as low-profile expansion cards), which makes it ideal for use in compact HTPCs or Small Form Factor cases that offer limited clearance for CPU 

I have not included the network card and adapter as the MB already has it.   Do you have a special reason for wanting extra. 

Added low profile compatible RAM to your list. 

You have not included an OS in your list.

 

 

Had another look at your build.   Found an alternative PSU to replace the one included in the Case.

http://www.solidgear...n/product_4/24/

 

Note.

I have not included the network card and adapter as the MB already has it.   Do you have a special reason for wanting extra. 

Added low profile compatible RAM to your list. 

You have not included an OS in your list.

 

Revised parts list, > https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qMBFxY

 

Please give some feed back on the build.


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iammykyl checked the specs for you and that cpu cooler would fit in your case, so don't see the need to change it for an evercool or titan cpu cooler.

 

also no idea why you still think you need low profile ram, you don't, any ram will do with that Noctua NH-L9x65, but if you're set on low profile ram then you'll have to find images to look at because sorry i don't know for definite what ram is going to be low profile just by their model numbers.

 

the reason people usually need low profile ram is because they are using a cpu cooler that over hangs the ram slots and doesn't give enough clearance with higher ram. an example in below video at about the 1.30 minute mark.

 

 

:popcorn:

 

Because of the size of this case, I decided to 'low-profile' everything I could. Cannot think of any good reason not to, and it may save me a major pain in the rump down the road. Turns out someone on another forum came up with an irritation-free way to find low-profile RAM...just Google it like so:

G.SKILL low-profile 240 pin DDR3 1600MHz (2 x 4GB)

I should of thought of it!


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Formido, let's start with the case which will work, gets quite good reviews as well.    some notes though.

It does not have USB 3,0 front port.

The PSU is poor, > Ihttps://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817154027 (this is a TFX form factor)   Your selected replacement is a SF form cactor, is too big, will not fit.

 

Case fan reported as noisy.  Note you include a Noctua case fan, good choice. 

Cooler, NF-A9x1465mm low profile will be OK in the case which is 3.9" wide, = 99.06mm.
Due to its compact heatsink and the 14mm thin NF-A9x14 low profile fan, the NH-L9x65 stands only 65mm tall (the same height as low-profile expansion cards), which makes it ideal for use in compact HTPCs or Small Form Factor cases that offer limited clearance for CPU 

I have not included the network card and adapter as the MB already has it.   Do you have a special reason for wanting extra. 

Added low profile compatible RAM to your list. 

You have not included an OS in your list.

 

 

Had another look at your build.   Found an alternative PSU to replace the one included in the Case.

http://www.solidgear...n/product_4/24/

 

Note.

I have not included the network card and adapter as the MB already has it.   Do you have a special reason for wanting extra. 

Added low profile compatible RAM to your list. 

You have not included an OS in your list.

 

Revised parts list, > https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qMBFxY

 

Please give some feed back on the build.

 

Since this case has place for internal DVD-ROM, I saw no need for ports. Regarding the PSU, its now a contest between Solid Gear SDGR-TFX350, Seasonic SS-300TFX, and Seasonic SS-300TGW. Cannot say I am a fan of these, as I was hoping for something more powerful. Several 'power supply calculator' sites say I need 250 to 300 watt, so I was wanting about 400 watt...better too much than too little.

 

I will be using Intel EXPI9402PT with its low-profile bracket (E1G42ET). Realtek chip has too many reported problems with pfSense, unlike Intel NICs, plus pfSense requires dual ports anyway.

 

Okay so looks like my choices for RAM are these:

1. Ballistix Tactical BLT2K4G3D1608ET3LXO

2. G.SKILL Ares Series F3-1600C9D-8GAB

3. Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9R

I am liking the G.Skill, but open to opinions. Someone on another forum suggested the Corsair...does not look like low-profile to me though, and not sure about the brand (does seem to have good buyer reviews).

 

I will do revised parts-list as soon as I decide on the RAM and PSU. I could use some help deciding as I don't know much about either.


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Thanks for the update.

Re PSU.  CPP shows your total system draw at 148w, allowing for another fan and capacitor aging, (about 200w Mark total), a 300/350w would be more than enough.    

The supplied PSU is termed Industrial, specifically manufactured for Apex, same as HP/Dell. dimensions - 5.75" x 3.25"(82.6mm, 3 1/4) x 2.5" (D) x (W) x (H)  Some people have been able to squeeze a wider unit into the case, but I'd not recommend it. 

The SeaSonic SS-300TFX is too wide @ 85.00mm,https://seasonic.com...-active-pfc-f0/

The Seasonic SS-300TGW same, to wide, > https://seasonic.com...-active-pfc-f0/

Solid gear looks the best fit.

 

This page show the RAM styles, > http://www.corsair.c...ery=vengence lp

This is the low profile, > http://www.corsair.c...ml8gx3m2a1600c9

 

Updates build list, > https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fPzt4C


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Gday.

How are things progressing?  Purchased parts yet?   Completed the build?   An update would be appreciated.

 

Thanks. 


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Not heard back from you Formido!!!   Please let us know if you need further help , or have more questions. 

The parts-list for my DIY router (using pfSense) I think is now done, so would need someone to look it over to check for incompatibilities:

CASE: HEC Compucase 7K09BBA30FNRX

CASE FANS: Noctua NF-R8-1800

CPU: Intel core i3-4160

CPU COOLER: Noctua NH-L9x65

MOTHERBOARD: Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H-A

RAM: Corsair Vengeance CML8GX3M2A1600C9

SSD: Either Intel 530 or 535 series;120GB (whichever I can get best bargain on)

SSD BRACKET: Sabrent BK-HDDF

NIC: Intel EXPI9402PT

NIC BRACKET: Intel E1G42ET

DVD-ROM: Asus DVD-E818AAT/BLK/B/GE

PSU: Seasonic SS-300TGW*

MISC: Iogear 2-Port KVM #GCS72U

* I would much prefer Seasonic SS-300tfx but the dimensions are slightly off...any chance it will fit?


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Gday, thanks for updating.

All your parts are compatible except both Seasonic ones. 

 

 

 

* I would much prefer Seasonic SS-300tfx but the dimensions are slightly off...any chance it will fit?

Case dimensions - 5.75" x 3.25" 82.6mm, (3 1/4) x 2.5" (D) x (W) x (H)

Both Seasonic 300TFX and 300TGW are 85.00mm (3 11/32w,) - case 3 1/4 = (3/32 to wide)

I have read that some people managed to squeeze in the PSU, up to you if you want to try.

The Solid Gear, listed on your parts list,  was the only PSU I found that was the correct size, http://www.outletpc....wer-supply.html

 

Please let use know how the actual build goes as it may be very helpful for future members attempting the same.


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How did the build go, success?


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How did the build go, success?

I have revised my parts-list...again. I just could not get past the no-name PSU. Too risky. My parts-list is:

 

CASE: Apex MJ-16

CASE FANS (3): Noctua NF-A6x25

CPU: Intel core i3-4160

CPU COOLER: Noctua NH-L9x65

MOTHERBOARD: Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H-A

RAM: Corsair Vengeance CML8GX3M2A1600C9

SSD; 530 Series 120GB

SSD MOUNTING BRACKET: Sabrent BK-HDDF

NIC: Intel EXPI9402PT

NIC LOW-PROFILE BRACKET: Intel E1g42ET

DVD DRIVE: Samsung SH-224FB/RSBS

PSU: Corsair SF Series SF450

 

I have sent it to DSL Reports forum to check for incompatibilities, but if anyone here wants to, a second opinion is always welcome. I am fairly sure all is okay. Finally got the book 'pfSense The Definitive Guide', checked parts-list with it. I'll wait a week for replies then start buying parts.


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