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A fresh installation of Win caused FPS drops(less FPS in general).

Win 7 8.1 c9 game fps drops

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I did the scan for this HDD, the results are not that cool, images below


Also downloaded Driver uninstaller, removed all display drivers(It disabled auto installation of win update display drivers too), did boot log without having any installed display driver installed, still seeing the "Not loaded" errors of the same "sys" file. So seems like the GPU driver has nothing to do with it?

 

 

 4 15 2017 16:51:54.486
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\ntoskrnl.exe
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\hal.dll
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\kd.dll
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\mcupdate_AuthenticAMD.dll
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\werkernel.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\CLFS.SYS
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\tm.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\PSHED.dll
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\BOOTVID.dll
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\cmimcext.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\CI.dll
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\msrpc.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\Wdf01000.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\WDFLDR.SYS
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\acpiex.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\WppRecorder.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\ACPI.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\WMILIB.SYS
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\cng.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\WdBoot.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\msisadrv.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\pci.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\vdrvroot.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\pdc.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\partmgr.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\spaceport.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\volmgr.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\volmgrx.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\amdide64.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\PCIIDEX.SYS
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\mountmgr.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\atapi.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\ataport.SYS
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\AsrRamDisk.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\storport.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\amd_sata.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\amd_xata.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\EhStorClass.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\fltmgr.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\fileinfo.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Wof.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\WdFilter.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Ntfs.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\ksecdd.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\pcw.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Fs_Rec.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\ndis.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\NETIO.SYS
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\ksecpkg.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\tcpip.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\fwpkclnt.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\wfplwfs.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\fvevol.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\volsnap.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\rdyboost.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\mup.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\intelpep.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\hwpolicy.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\disk.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\CLASSPNP.SYS
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\cdrom.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Null.SYS
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Beep.SYS
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\dxgkrnl.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\BasicRender.sys
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\dxgkrnl.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\BasicDisplay.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Npfs.SYS
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Msfs.SYS
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\tdx.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\netbt.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\afd.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\pacer.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\netbios.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\rdbss.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\csc.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\wanarp.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\SCDEmu.SYS
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\nsiproxy.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\npsvctrig.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\mssmbios.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\dfsc.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ahcache.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\taphss6.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\CompositeBus.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\kdnic.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\umbus.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\HDAudBus.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\Rt630x64.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\usbohci.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\usbfilter.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\usbehci.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\parport.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\serial.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\serenum.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\amdppm.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\NdisVirtualBus.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\swenum.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\rdpbus.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\usbhub.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\HdAudio.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\ksthunk.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\RTKVHD64.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\MBfilt64.sys
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\dxgkrnl.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\monitor.sys
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\dxgkrnl.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\usbccgp.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\hidusb.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\mouhid.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\mouclass.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\kbdhid.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\kbdclass.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\luafv.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\PDFsFilter.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\lltdio.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\rspndr.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\HTTP.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\bowser.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\mpsdrv.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mrxsmb.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mrxsmb20.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \??\C:\Program Files\AMD\ATI.ACE\Fuel\amd64\AODDriver2.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \??\C:\Program Files (x86)\AMD\OverDrive\amd64\AODDriver2.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mrxsmb10.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\Ndu.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\peauth.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \??\C:\Windows\SysWOW64\speedfan.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\srvnet.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\tcpipreg.sys
BOOTLOG_NOT_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\WdFilter.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\srv2.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\srv.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\tunnel.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mslldp.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \SystemRoot\system32\Drivers\WdNisDrv.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \??\C:\Windows\SysWOW64\Drivers\AsrDrv101.sys
BOOTLOG_LOADED \??\C:\Program Files (x86)\MSI Afterburner\RTCore64.sys
 

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I was thinking about Ram speeds in BIOS, it was set to auto, while the max I can take is 2133Mhz I think in the bios. I changed them to 1600Mhz and it felt smoother but I wanted to ask if i can really do the change or even go for 2133Mhz even though my ram isn't that fast? Can it get damaged that way or? However, this still doesn't solve the FPS/performance in general loss I suffer from. This seems to get desperate.

 

 

I would not try to overclock the RAM.  That can burn it out.  If the 1600  seems better it probably is.  The speed of the RAM isn't that critical.  

http://techbuyersgur...-and-2400-games

 

 try manually setting to 1600, 10-10-10-30 and CR (Command Rate/Timing) to 2T)

 

 

 

Speccy says you have:

 

Power Profile

Active power scheme Balanced

 

Try changing the Power scheme to High Performance.  Sometimes that makes a difference other than just power consumption.  (Contro Panel,  Power Options.  High Performance is one of the ones under More)


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If it was burned, I'd have gotten some errors during the memory test, right?

I will set that in Bios soon then, did Error scan for HDD, got no damaged sectors, all were green. Also did one more benchmark right after, look at these results now.

I changed the power plan now to Ultra performance, I guess that should be a bit better than High Performance. Let's see if it goes better

 

 

 

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I doubt that the default settings would hurt the RAM.  Just might not be the best.

 

This scan looks much better.  Perhaps there was a bad sector that got swapped out when you did the surface scan.


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I 've taken some images of my BIOS ram settings, there were more options than I thought so I decided to take some screens and post for you to check them. But as I understood, I took 10-10-10-30 and T2 in the correct places.  I also noticed A2-A1 slots, I can change between them, does it make any difference if I do?

Could be, maybe some programs I was using during the benchpress of HDD made it go wrong, the last test I was simply waiting without doing anything(even surfing the web).

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I expect the HD test should be done on an inactive system so doing something else may result in inaccurate readings.  

 

The BIOS stuff looks correct.  A1 & A2 are probably different memory slots on the Motherboard so that if you have to mix & match RAM you can tune each separately.


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Perhaps that's true, so what goes next now?


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So any change in FPS or boot speed or? since you made the changes?


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Boot stays quite the same, game speeds after all we have done raised by 5-8 FPS approx, so that's some progress for sure.

Ah you didn't answer if I should post the real images of the PC's inside


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You can post them if you want tho I'm not sure I can see something you don't.


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Just booted PC from a few hours of being turn off, it booted really faster now, took less than 10 seconds and I was able to already click on things and launch them almost instantly.

As for the pictures, I'll make them tomorrow morning, it's late here already, wont see much.

Is there any other plans of trying something, if may I ask?


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I'm about out of ideas.  You don't want to look at the CPU settings in the BIOS.  Run Process Explorer and let's see if Windows Defender is still using too much CPU.


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I think as CPU is already being boosted ,there's no purpose of boosting it even more, yet I didn't overclock it before while having more performance.
I installed avast but the things got even slower, I was having some performance issues in-games and not only. So I uninstalled it. And after a few boots, the PC started booting slower again. Weird stuff indeed..

I had no time to take the pictures today, I should be able to do it tomorrow.

 

Btw. I have another PSU that is also 500W but a really cheap-made one. Can't compare with the BeQuiet one I got now but maybe it could be broken somehow and causing instability/performance issues? Should I try replacing ? The old one is: SL-500K. It was being used for a few months on desktop programs like solitaire only, so it's quite new I'd say even if a cheap quality.


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Might as well try the other power supply.

 

As far as the CPU goes remember the RAM was boosted and slowing it down seemed to help.

 

 

What does Process Explorer show now that you have uninstalled Avast?


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I will try it then but is it possible that a broken PSU causes such performance drops?

 

I left the RAM settings as it was now, at 1600 Mhz

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