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Building a new PC, need advice


Best Answer iammykyl , 11 July 2017 - 03:36 AM

Thanks for the info.Major problem building at present is the world wide price and lack of GPU supply, specifically GTX 1060 and AMD Ryzen 1600, the optimal for gaming at that price point.   Al... Go to the full post »


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I've been using an old rig for gaming for over 4 years now with no upgrades done to it, recently i've decided its time for a new one. I've never built a PC before so these are really rough outlines as to what im looking for. It will mainly be used for gaming - Anything from high end games such as Witcher 3 to lowbies such as Minecraft. I dont intend to play them on ultra high quality or go overkill, i just want a smooth experience at 60 fps, (anything but low settings) and future proofing

 

My current setup has (just for reference)
 

The case is pretty now so i'll keep it and put the new rig into that

CPU (APU actually) AMD A10-6790K APU with Radeon™ HD Graphics

GPU                           AMD Radeon HD 7900 Seriesž

RAM                           8.0 GB Ram

 

The setup i've been looking at (subject to massive changes) is:

 

 

Power supply: 1000W LC-Power LC1000 V2.4 Platinum-Serie (Massive overkill)

CPU: CPU AM4 AMD Ryzen 5 1600X

MB: ASUS PRIME X370-PRO or MSI  X370 Krait Gaming

GPU: AMD RX 560  or a GTX 1050(ti or not) - This is where im most looking for advice, is it worth putting in a little more money, i want to get the "most bang for my buck"

 

All the other details are up in the air, RAM brands and types dont really matter (16GB Probably), HDD can probably be reused from the old rig, and i might look into getting a small SSD (120-240GB) for windows and ocassional game

 

The total budget is around 1000€ although i havent done all the math yet, may be subject to change

 

 

 


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I've had an interesting conversation with my dad, we're trying to determine if building a pc from scratch is more worth it and getting a pre built one, so far i can't convince him - the pc he's been looking at is this http://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/desktops-and-all-in-ones/ideacentre/700-tower/IdeaCentre-720-18IKL/p/99IC9720272 

 

Hit us up with some facts


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Welcome back MightyPotato

Your link has problems, is this what you are considering, > http://www3.lenovo.c...H/p/99IC9Y70219


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I believe it might be although neither of the links seem to be working for me, so to make things easier heres a screenshot of the specs

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Yep, there are the ones I linked to. they are Intel builds whereas you listed AMD.

The linked PCs are OK but, essential specs are limited, no brand names for the parts.

They have nonK CPUs so a lower chipset MB with limited or no overclocking.

limited HDD bays.

GPU is lower end for decent gaming. .

PSU, always a concern on this type of computer.   will be OEM 80+, and just about adequate Watts.   Any sort of upgrade would probable need one with higher output.

 

If you build your own, you get exactly what is needed for the computer usage.

 

If you tell us in which country you will buy hardware, we could give you some build options to look over.


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Thanks for the quick ansers and sorry for lagging behind

 

We will be buying parts in Serbia :)


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:thumbsup:  No problem, time zone difference, so I too probable won't be quick.

 

Should have pointed out that with a pre built PC, you do get the builder's warranty and some support, all in the one place.

 

Can you give us a couple of links to eSellers that you may use?

Thanks. 


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The prices are usually the same in UK/US so going by those prices, i wouldnt have problems finding what i need here myself

 

www.emmi.rs
www.winwin.rs

www.gigatronshop.com

 

These are some examples although i dont mind buying and shipping in from literally anywhere as long as its an option, so ebay, amazon, Aliexpress are all fine as long as the parts are new 


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Thanks for the info.

Major problem building at present is the world wide price and lack of GPU supply, specifically GTX 1060 and AMD Ryzen 1600, the optimal for gaming at that price point.   All due to the renewed interest in Coin Mining. they are sold out and/or 50+ overpriced.   Some manufacturers are producing cards specifically aimed at miners, so hopefully things will return to normal soon.

 

This article makes a pretty good comparison, > http://blog.logicali...-driver-update/

 

On the top right of the CPP window, you can click the down arrow and change the country. 

Intel build.

CPU does no come with a cooler but does have a iGPU.   You could build this now and wait a couple of months for GPUs to fall in price.

https://de.pcpartpic...com/list/RVCqnn Total system draw  81W - 348W

 

AMD build.

CPU comes with a cooler, but no iGPU.

If you use this build you would definitely need a GPU from the start.

https://de.pcpartpic...com/list/rcM2Cy Total system draw,  73W - 312W

 

With regards to a PSU.   you do not need a higher wattage PSU, 550 W is ample and gives some wiggle room.

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With the addition of some higher performing power supplies, efficiency clearly shouldn't be the overriding concern for a computer like our midrange system. The Corsair VX450W doesn't look as good in this graph, although 83% efficiency certainly isn't anything to cry about. The newer models all reach efficiency of around 85% to 86% throughout the midrange system load. Comparing the two scenarios, outside of PSUs that simply can't provide enough power it's not necessary to move up to a higher performance power supply. You want to look at other aspects such as features, warranty, and noise levels before making a decision.


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Much appreciated! There is still lots to think over and look at so i'm going to be doing that, i'll see you guys again in about 2-5 months time with the full build & pics :D

Thanks again for your help


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You are very welcome :thumbsup:

Just post if you have any more questions along the way.

 

See ya.


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