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Question, is there a way to get windows defrag to do a boot up defrag?


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Hi KiwiProbie,

Back in the days of XP (and prior) defragmenting a hard disk was something you had to do regularly to keep it running at peak performance. Nowadays, Windows is more robust and defragging is not necessary as often as it once was.

If I remember correctly, starting in Windows Vista, Disk Defragmenter included an option to automatically run at scheduled times using Task Scheduler. Windows 7, by default, sets up a schedule to defrag the hard drive which you (the user) can modify the schedule by opening Disk Deframenter (just type defrag in the search box in the start menu). Same for Windows 8/10.

Be aware though that the newer Windows 10 PC's are much more likely to include a solid-state drive (SSD) as its main storage at time of purchase. SSDs don't need defragmenting the same way that older hard disks do.

Following is a really good article in regards to defragging Windows 10:

How and When to Defragment Your Hard Drive in Windows 10

Hope that helps... :)
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No it didnt need help and didnt answer my question.  I said its my first time cause I normally use oo defrag.

 

Please answer my question :-).


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Windows 10 disk defragmentation program runs while Windows is running. You cannot configure it to run at boot time.

 

The Prefetch directory has one additional salutary function when used in conjunction with the built-in defragmenting tool. Every three days, during idle times, this utility rearranges program code, moving it to the outside of the disk to make it more efficient when loading (to force Windows to perform this optimization without having to do a full defragmentation, use the Defrag.exe command with the /b switch. For instance:

 

1. Open Command Prompt as administrator.
2. Type Defrag c:  /b press Enter key.


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Awesome thank you heaps Freebooter.  I'll try it now.


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I got this:

 

Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.16299.64]
© 2017 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\WINDOWS\system32>Defrag c:  /b
Microsoft Drive Optimizer
Copyright © Microsoft Corp.

Invoking boot optimization on Acer (C:)...

        Analysis:  100% complete.

Boot optimisation has been disabled in the registry. (0x89000018)

 

So I went through to the reg key for this and reinabled it, then after that I got this:

 

C:\WINDOWS\system32>Defrag c:  /b
Microsoft Drive Optimizer
Copyright © Microsoft Corp.

Invoking boot optimization on Acer (C:)...


Pre-Optimization Report:

        Volume Information:
                Volume size                 = 464.64 GB
                Free space                  = 407.73 GB
                Total fragmented space      = 2%
                Largest free space size     = 209.39 GB

        Note: File fragments larger than 64MB are not included in the fragmentation statistics.


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Question, is there a way to get windows defrag to do a boot up defrag?

 

Too much importance is often put on defragging a HDD and if a HDD was able to be defrag on boot** two things would happen, data on the drive would actually become fragmented and the drive would come to an end of life much sooner than any warranty it may have.

 

** This would also prevent you from having an SSD as a boot drive as they should never be defragged.

 

How often a HDD should be defragged depends on the amount of use, the average user once a month and possibly up to six weeks and power user as often as once a week.


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Yeah I do use my laptop a lot, games, net, etc.  But I only defrag once a month if that.

 

I am not sure why you guys keep bringing up about SSD's, do you guys not read my signature and see that I have a HDD?


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I am not sure why you guys keep bringing up about SSD's, do you guys not read my signature and see that I have a HDD?

 

 

My apologies KiwiProbie, I can`t seem to find anywhere in the GTG Terms of Use that we are not allowed to post information for the benefit of others apart from your good self  :P

 

Levity apart, you asked;

 

Question, is there a way to get windows defrag to do a boot up defrag?

 

 

And as part of my reply I included the following;

 

** This would also prevent you from having an SSD as a boot drive as they should never be defragged.

 

 

The reason why I emphasised the above separately was to highlight another good reason why being able to run a defrag on boot would not be a good idea, no one knows everything and someone with less knowledge than others may have come across your thread and had it not been mentioned gone off and started defragging their SSD thinking that it was ok to do so  :(

 

I take it  that you decided against the SSD upgrade in your SSD Drives for Acer Laptop thread.


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I see good point, I do know that you should never use defrag on an SSD, but to use the trimming feature.

 

I have gone back to o&o defrag as well.  I find that does the defrag a lot better :-).


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