[Dbz2004]

I've been having this problem for about a week now. Whenever I turn on my computer it would be fine until I would open up a program or a file and then my fan would make a horrible grinding noise and turn red. This is the first time that it has done this since I got it from my friend (she had it for about 2 years before I got it 2 months ago).

 

Can anyone help me or give advice? I cleaned it out with canned air last month and tonight and it is still making the noise and turning red.

 

Attached is the fan in question.

 

Thanks!

Edited by Dbz2004, 10 January 2018 - 11:05 PM.

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I don't see an attachment.

  Attaching is a multi step process.

First click on More Reply Options
Then scroll down to where you see
Choose File and click on it.  Point it at the file and hit Open.
Now click on Attach this file.

 

Sounds like the fan is failing and needs to be replaced but

 

Monitor your temps with Speedfan:

http://www.filehippo...nload_speedfan/

Download, save and Install it (Win 7+ or Vista right click and Run As Admin.) then run it (Win 7+ or Vista right click and Run As Admin.).

It will tell you your temps.  A desktop should be under 50 C.

 

Get Process Explorer

http://live.sysinter...com/procexp.exe
Save it to your desktop then run it (Vista or Win7+ - right click and Run As Administrator).  

View, Select Column, check Verified Signer, OK
Options, Verify Image Signatures


Click twice on the CPU column header  to sort things by CPU usage with the big hitters at the top.  

Wait a full minute then:

File, Save As, Save.  Note the file name.   Open the file  on your desktop and copy and paste the text to a reply.
 

 

 

[RKinner]

I don't see an attachment.

  Attaching is a multi step process.

First click on More Reply Options
Then scroll down to where you see
Choose File and click on it.  Point it at the file and hit Open.
Now click on Attach this file.

 

Sounds like the fan is failing and needs to be replaced but

 

Monitor your temps with Speedfan:

http://www.filehippo...nload_speedfan/

Download, save and Install it (Win 7+ or Vista right click and Run As Admin.) then run it (Win 7+ or Vista right click and Run As Admin.).

It will tell you your temps.  A desktop should be under 50 C.

 

Get Process Explorer

http://live.sysinter...com/procexp.exe
Save it to your desktop then run it (Vista or Win7+ - right click and Run As Administrator).  

View, Select Column, check Verified Signer, OK
Options, Verify Image Signatures


Click twice on the CPU column header  to sort things by CPU usage with the big hitters at the top.  

Wait a full minute then:

File, Save As, Save.  Note the file name.   Open the file  on your desktop and copy and paste the text to a reply.
 

 

 

[Kemasa]

Most likely you will need to replace the fan, but check to make sure that nothing is getting into the fan blades.

[Dbz2004]

Not sure why the attachment didn't attach. I uploaded the image onto imgur:

https://i.imgur.com/DY76LWf.jpg

 

It seems that the fan is running faster than it has in the past so that's why it is making the noise. Also i found out that the fan has red LED lights so it is supposed to be that color.

 

I am currently running a virus scan and will post the results when they are done
~~

 

Process CPU Private Bytes Working Set PID Description Company Name

System Idle Process 65.54 0 K 4 K 0

System 8.24 132 K 1,896 K 4

 Interrupts 1.21 0 K 0 K n/a Hardware Interrupts and DPCs

 smss.exe 480 K 1,004 K 420

 Memory Compression 0.11 180 K 38,744 K 2544

csrss.exe < 0.01 1,596 K 3,728 K 600

wininit.exe 1,212 K 4,172 K 684

 services.exe 4,148 K 7,572 K 812

  svchost.exe < 0.01 8,444 K 20,668 K 904 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation

   WmiPrvSE.exe 8,924 K 17,280 K 3796

   RuntimeBroker.exe 22,492 K 55,268 K 4072 Runtime Broker Microsoft Corporation

   ShellExperienceHost.exe 34,132 K 57,488 K 5268 Windows Shell Experience Host Microsoft Corporation

   Microsoft.StickyNotes.exe < 0.01 51,520 K 84,040 K 5424 Microsoft.StickyNotes Microsoft Corporation

   SearchUI.exe Suspended 55,856 K 54,308 K 5664 Search and Cortana application Microsoft Corporation

   backgroundTaskHost.exe Suspended 24,792 K 31,036 K 6276 Background Task Host Microsoft Corporation

   smartscreen.exe 13,132 K 24,708 K 6404 SmartScreen Microsoft Corporation

   SettingSyncHost.exe < 0.01 12,500 K 23,052 K 8096 Host Process for Setting Synchronization Microsoft Corporation

   InstallAgent.exe 2,848 K 13,240 K 5364 InstallAgent Microsoft Corporation

   TiWorker.exe 6,420 K 12,328 K 7832

   WmiPrvSE.exe 2,636 K 9,140 K 5744

   backgroundTaskHost.exe 17,036 K 32,288 K 1160 Background Task Host Microsoft Corporation

  svchost.exe < 0.01 4,788 K 9,748 K 960 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation

  svchost.exe 44,160 K 73,932 K 560 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation

   sihost.exe 5,208 K 20,360 K 1104 Shell Infrastructure Host Microsoft Corporation

   taskhostw.exe 7,136 K 16,132 K 4596 Host Process for Windows Tasks Microsoft Corporation

   wermgr.exe 0.01 2,888 K 4,084 K 6252

   overseer.exe 2,168 K 528 K 7360

   GoogleUpdate.exe 2,512 K 848 K 5284 Google Installer Google Inc.

   CompatTelRunner.exe 1,204 K 360 K 6068

    conhost.exe 0.01 1,640 K 700 K 6572

    CompatTelRunner.exe 0.32 25,376 K 13,448 K 5308

   nvnodejslauncher.exe 0.16 3,696 K 1,088 K 7960 NVIDIA nodejs launcher NVIDIA Corporation

    NVIDIA Web Helper.exe 15,612 K 13,508 K 6048 NVIDIA Web Helper Service Node.js

     conhost.exe 1,560 K 1,512 K 7932 Console Window Host Microsoft Corporation

   AvEmUpdate.exe 2,952 K 7,260 K 6440

  svchost.exe 0.15 68,080 K 78,880 K 612 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation

   dasHost.exe 1,960 K 4,648 K 2616

   CompatTelRunner.exe 1,112 K 4,840 K 9516

    conhost.exe 0.01 1,584 K 6,108 K 9524

  svchost.exe < 0.01 18,324 K 26,916 K 1056 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation

  NVDisplay.Container.exe 4,360 K 11,308 K 1092 NVIDIA Container NVIDIA Corporation

   NVDisplay.Container.exe < 0.01 22,164 K 19,448 K 1804

  svchost.exe 0.01 10,664 K 23,292 K 1204 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation

  svchost.exe 0.01 16,280 K 21,608 K 1220 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation

  svchost.exe 7,452 K 16,932 K 1340 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation

  svchost.exe 2,532 K 8,964 K 1412 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation

   audiodg.exe 8,768 K 10,864 K 8744

  WTabletServiceCon.exe 1,500 K 6,300 K 1440 Tablet Service Wacom Technology, Corp.

   Pen_TabletUser.exe 1,800 K 7,324 K 5016 Tablet user module for consumer driver Wacom Technology, Corp.

   WacomHost.exe 2,096 K 10,792 K 1744

    Pen_Tablet.exe 11,736 K 22,880 K 2836

   Pen_TouchUser.exe 3,960 K 13,240 K 3744

  svchost.exe 3,328 K 10,592 K 1520 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation

  svchost.exe 4,080 K 10,664 K 1708 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation

  AvastSvc.exe 5.12 110,848 K 68,060 K 1724 Avast Service AVAST Software

  spoolsv.exe 5,984 K 15,312 K 1916 Spooler SubSystem App Microsoft Corporation

  svchost.exe < 0.01 7,772 K 24,160 K 2096 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation

  nvcontainer.exe 0.03 8,568 K 17,216 K 2172 NVIDIA Container NVIDIA Corporation

   nvcontainer.exe 0.01 19,764 K 36,640 K 4636 NVIDIA Container NVIDIA Corporation

  NvTelemetryContainer.exe < 0.01 5,432 K 11,788 K 2180 NVIDIA Container NVIDIA Corporation

  svchost.exe 7,204 K 19,424 K 2288 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation

  svchost.exe 1,708 K 6,240 K 2940 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation

  aswidsagenta.exe 0.22 16,880 K 26,480 K 3568 Avast Behavior Shield AVAST Software

  svchost.exe 7,128 K 12,476 K 2856 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation

  svchost.exe 9,860 K 32,768 K 1448 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation

  SearchIndexer.exe 0.05 27,440 K 22,060 K 6040 Microsoft Windows Search Indexer Microsoft Corporation

   SearchProtocolHost.exe 2,324 K 8,544 K 9132

   SearchFilterHost.exe 1,520 K 6,148 K 9172

  svchost.exe 10,816 K 28,312 K 6520 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation

  TrustedInstaller.exe < 0.01 2,700 K 7,384 K 7920 Windows Modules Installer Microsoft Corporation

  wmpnetwk.exe 6,752 K 22,340 K 6864 Windows Media Player Network Sharing Service Microsoft Corporation

  sppsvc.exe 3,084 K 12,916 K 8940 Microsoft Software Protection Platform Service Microsoft Corporation

 lsass.exe 6,308 K 14,864 K 828 Local Security Authority Process Microsoft Corporation

csrss.exe 0.31 2,100 K 3,860 K 692

winlogon.exe 2,268 K 8,268 K 756

 dwm.exe 1.09 37,012 K 37,620 K 432

 fontdrvhost.exe 832 K 3,000 K 8148

explorer.exe 0.06 58,260 K 92,968 K 3504 Windows Explorer Microsoft Corporation

 chrome.exe 0.48 142,628 K 205,512 K 6812 Google Chrome Google Inc.

  chrome.exe 2,540 K 9,176 K 6824 Google Chrome Google Inc.

  chrome.exe 2,500 K 9,552 K 6912 Google Chrome Google Inc.

  chrome.exe 0.20 156,692 K 182,564 K 7040 Google Chrome Google Inc.

  chrome.exe 25,788 K 69,896 K 1272 Google Chrome Google Inc.

  chrome.exe 30,580 K 71,704 K 1544 Google Chrome Google Inc.

  chrome.exe 45,456 K 88,108 K 2780 Google Chrome Google Inc.

  chrome.exe 82,264 K 122,684 K 352 Google Chrome Google Inc.

  chrome.exe 41,356 K 81,844 K 6332 Google Chrome Google Inc.

  chrome.exe 0.83 89,548 K 135,344 K 2588 Google Chrome Google Inc.

  procexp.exe 3,496 K 10,372 K 8996 Sysinternals Process Explorer Sysinternals - www.sysinternals.com

   procexp64.exe 2.14 21,708 K 52,804 K 9036 Sysinternals Process Explorer Sysinternals - www.sysinternals.com

 EvernoteClipper.exe < 0.01 3,280 K 9,028 K 276 Evernote Clipper Evernote Corp., 305 Walnut Street, Redwood City, CA 94063

 AvastUI.exe 2.70 24,360 K 75,968 K 7404 Avast Antivirus AVAST Software

  AvastUI.exe 10.95 94,496 K 146,100 K 8112 Avast Antivirus AVAST Software

AAM Updates Notifier.exe < 0.01 4,316 K 5,384 K 8124 AAM Updates Notifier Application Adobe Systems Incorporated

 

 

 

[Dbz2004]

the fan in the picture i mention above hasn't kicked on yet and doesn't until i open up the case and nudge it to mode and that's when it starts to go into overdrive. Should I be worried about it?

 

EDIT: virus scan came back clean

Edited by Dbz2004, 07 January 2018 - 08:04 PM.

[RKinner]

Any fan that only starts running when you move it manually is defective and should be replaced.  So yes. 

 

Your Process Explorer log is hard to read since  you didn't click on the CPU column header but it appears that Avast is using too much CPU right now.

 

AvastUI.exe 2.70 24,360 K 75,968 K 7404 Avast Antivirus AVAST Software

  AvastUI.exe 10.95 94,496 K 146,100 K 8112 Avast Antivirus AVAST Software

Perhaps reinstalling Avast will help.

also

 

System 8.24 132 K 1,896 K 4

is very high.  Usually it's less than 1%  Perhaps it's because of Avast.

[Dbz2004]

it is prompting me to update it so maybe that's why it is using so much CPU. also sorry about the cluster-fudge. if you want i can do it again properly. i just need to turn on the PC again.

 

so i do need to replace it? will that fix the overturning problem with it, too? how much will a new fan cost me?

[RKinner]

About $8 on Amazon

Generic 120 mm 4.72 x 4.72 Inches Case Fan with 3-Pin Connector, Black (12025-BULK)

 

Cheaper available on Ebay but they come from China so you will have to wait a few weeks to get them.

 

That should help with the cooling.  Can't say if it will fix all problems but it's a good start.

[RKinner]

Also update Avast and then redo the Process Explorer log

[Dbz2004]

alright, i will do that and report back.

 

do you think BestBuy will have them? I have one that is about 5 minutes away from my apartment

[Dbz2004]

Process CPU Private Bytes Working Set PID Description Company Name

AvastUI.exe 32,152 K 57,356 K 8796 Avast Antivirus AVAST Software

backgroundTaskHost.exe Suspended 7,740 K 21,568 K 3292 Background Task Host Microsoft Corporation

backgroundTaskHost.exe Suspended 18,272 K 43,448 K 3996 Background Task Host Microsoft Corporation

backgroundTaskHost.exe Suspended 27,300 K 33,552 K 4876 Background Task Host Microsoft Corporation

conhost.exe 1,548 K 4,084 K 3244 Console Window Host Microsoft Corporation

csrss.exe 1,532 K 4,508 K 592

dasHost.exe 2,876 K 9,316 K 2444

fontdrvhost.exe 832 K 3,380 K 6148

lsass.exe 5,856 K 15,844 K 824 Local Security Authority Process Microsoft Corporation

Memory Compression 0 K 8 K 2664

Microsoft.StickyNotes.exe 52,612 K 88,136 K 5516 Microsoft.StickyNotes Microsoft Corporation

NVDisplay.Container.exe 4,368 K 13,120 K 1132 NVIDIA Container NVIDIA Corporation

NvTelemetryContainer.exe 6,340 K 14,728 K 2368 NVIDIA Container NVIDIA Corporation

Pen_Tablet.exe 11,356 K 23,444 K 3580

Pen_TabletUser.exe 1,584 K 7,592 K 4076 Tablet user module for consumer driver Wacom Technology, Corp.

Pen_TouchUser.exe 4,164 K 13,376 K 3744

procexp.exe 3,412 K 10,572 K 1912 Sysinternals Process Explorer Sysinternals - www.sysinternals.com

RuntimeBroker.exe 26,652 K 48,776 K 4620 Runtime Broker Microsoft Corporation

SearchFilterHost.exe 1,216 K 6,092 K 2404

SearchProtocolHost.exe 2,192 K 7,276 K 884

SearchUI.exe Suspended 50,136 K 86,768 K 5772 Search and Cortana application Microsoft Corporation

SettingSyncHost.exe 5,848 K 11,440 K 6204 Host Process for Setting Synchronization Microsoft Corporation

ShellExperienceHost.exe 34,732 K 60,000 K 1340 Windows Shell Experience Host Microsoft Corporation

sihost.exe 4,704 K 19,440 K 3964 Shell Infrastructure Host Microsoft Corporation

smartscreen.exe 8,400 K 14,756 K 6344 SmartScreen Microsoft Corporation

smss.exe 500 K 1,248 K 408

spoolsv.exe 6,144 K 16,052 K 1968 Spooler SubSystem App Microsoft Corporation

svchost.exe 1,700 K 7,000 K 2820 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation

svchost.exe 3,240 K 11,524 K 1616 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation

svchost.exe 4,064 K 13,092 K 1852 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation

svchost.exe 2,176 K 8,240 K 1468 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation

svchost.exe 6,688 K 16,556 K 1404 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation

svchost.exe 7,368 K 13,984 K 2876 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation

svchost.exe 10,252 K 23,396 K 2424 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation

svchost.exe 4,168 K 9,776 K 952 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation

svchost.exe 15,316 K 24,172 K 1280 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation

svchost.exe 8,116 K 21,604 K 908 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation

taskhostw.exe 6,812 K 19,464 K 3904 Host Process for Windows Tasks Microsoft Corporation

WacomHost.exe 1,912 K 11,412 K 876

wininit.exe 1,232 K 5,320 K 680

winlogon.exe 2,244 K 9,732 K 728

WmiPrvSE.exe 2,456 K 8,944 K 5884

wmpnetwk.exe 6,816 K 23,656 K 6784 Windows Media Player Network Sharing Service Microsoft Corporation

WTabletServiceCon.exe 1,488 K 6,980 K 1524 Tablet Service Wacom Technology, Corp.

svchost.exe < 0.01 34,884 K 63,980 K 600 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation

svchost.exe < 0.01 8,464 K 29,448 K 3232 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation

svchost.exe < 0.01 7,372 K 24,232 K 2300 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation

NVDisplay.Container.exe < 0.01 22,752 K 23,916 K 1308

services.exe < 0.01 4,372 K 8,472 K 808

aswidsagenta.exe < 0.01 15,288 K 31,708 K 3948 Avast Behavior Shield AVAST Software

WmiPrvSE.exe < 0.01 6,040 K 13,104 K 3308

svchost.exe < 0.01 6,372 K 17,896 K 5984 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation

SearchIndexer.exe < 0.01 25,236 K 24,040 K 4844 Microsoft Windows Search Indexer Microsoft Corporation

EvernoteClipper.exe < 0.01 3,280 K 9,412 K 6656 Evernote Clipper Evernote Corp., 305 Walnut Street, Redwood City, CA 94063

svchost.exe < 0.01 9,380 K 24,192 K 1220 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation

svchost.exe < 0.01 57,152 K 70,776 K 796 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation

AvastUI.exe 0.01 24,212 K 66,016 K 6832 Avast Antivirus AVAST Software

nvcontainer.exe 0.01 16,836 K 30,348 K 3956 NVIDIA Container NVIDIA Corporation

NVIDIA Web Helper.exe 0.02 30,092 K 38,972 K 5616 NVIDIA Web Helper Service Node.js

svchost.exe 0.02 17,356 K 28,432 K 804 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation

nvcontainer.exe 0.02 8,416 K 22,116 K 2472 NVIDIA Container NVIDIA Corporation

explorer.exe 0.03 66,316 K 108,156 K 3008 Windows Explorer Microsoft Corporation

csrss.exe 0.07 2,000 K 4,884 K 688

dwm.exe 0.13 34,472 K 40,048 K 352

System 0.21 132 K 3,208 K 4

Interrupts 0.34 0 K 0 K n/a Hardware Interrupts and DPCs

AvastSvc.exe 0.48 76,784 K 54,304 K 1888 Avast Service AVAST Software

procexp64.exe 1.24 21,484 K 53,308 K 1932 Sysinternals Process Explorer Sysinternals - www.sysinternals.com

System Idle Process 97.41 0 K 4 K 0

[RKinner]

Process Explorer looks good now.

 

Best Buy website doesn't show any in stock at my Best Buy (except for one for $56).   Check Walmart.  They may have one.  There are some 120 MM Case fans on their website with 2 day delivery.  Do you need the 3 or 4 pin connector? 

 

The picture looks like a generic fan.  What make and model number is the PC?

[Dbz2004]

I have no idea tbh. Below is my system info

 

[RKinner]

Probably 3 wire 3 pin from the part number of the fan.  Pretty generic fan. Most computer places should have something that would work.   Where are you located?

[Dbz2004]

Yuma, Arizona