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I have some old computer components that I assembled to make a spare computer using Linux Mint as the OS. I'm having trouble getting Linux to boot after installation and decided to check out the hard drive using my Windows 10 desk top. I installed it in an open hard drive slot, booted up and went to look at it in Disk Management. The disk showed up as Unknown Disk 1 Not Initialized and instructing me to initialize it, It offered two styles to choose from: MBR or GPT with GPT preselected. I clicked OK but it comes back saying: The specified disk is not convertible because the size is less than the minimum required for GPT disks. Since it's a 1TB HDD, I figure there is more to this and that I should learn about it. I'm hoping that you guys can explain to me what it is that I need to know.


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The drive has probably been formatted by a MAC and windows reads it as size 0 GB.  If the BIOS sees the drive as 1 TB you can

 

 try diskpart, open admin command prompt:

    http://www.howtogeek...-in-windows-10/

   Type: diskpart <ENTER>
    Type: list disk <ENTER>
    Type: select disk # <ENTER> where # is the disk number,  check on the list for correct #
    Type: clean <ENTER> Running the clean command will delete all partitions or volumes on the disk
    Type: Exit
Open disk management and right click on the disk to initialize->Simple and follow the screen to create a primary partition and format


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I used diskpart and cleaned the disk. Then opened disk mgmt and tried to initialize GPT again but got the same results: not big enough for GPT. I didn't try MBR because I believe Linux needs GPT??


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When you do

diskpart

list disk

 

what does it give for Size and Free?

 

They should be about the same and somewhere over 900 GB

 

If they are try:

 

convert gpt

 

What error does it give if any?

 

You can also try convert mbr

 

I don't think Linux cares that much if it's GPT or MBR.  It's more a BIOS thing.  Most motherboards

can handle either tho often you need to tell then to do the Legacy thing for MBR.


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Diskpart reports size: 0 b and free: 0 b. The motherboard on my windows 10 desktop is a Gigabyte x470 Aora and the motherboard of my Linux is an Asrock 970 Extreme3., both support UEFI. I really don't want to MBR so I still haven't tried. 


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I just went back to diskpart and cleaned it again then did: create partition primary. I got error message "Diskpart has encountered an error: The system cannot find the file specified. See the System Event Log for more information. Can that be viewed from the cmd screen? If so how would do it?


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I ran eventvwr and in Event Viewer (Local)> Windows Logs> Systems, I found Event 10, Virtual Disk Service, General, "VDS fails to write boot code on a disk during clean operation. Error code: [email protected]??


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Can't do much if

 

Diskpart reports size: 0 b and free: 0 b 

 

 

Nothing to work with.

 

Do you see the same 0 b in the BIOS/CMOS setup?

 

Who makes the drive?  What part number?

 

Your only chance is to run the drive maker's program and see what they say.  Sometimes they can repair it for you.


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The bios reports 1000gb. I ran speccy and got the following results:

ST31000524AS                     Manufacturer Seagate                 Form Factor 3.5"                 Heads 16                 Cylinders 121601                 Tracks 31008255                 Sectors 1953520065                 SATA type SATA-III 6.0Gb/s                 Device type Fixed                 ATA Standard ATA8-ACS                 Serial Number 5VP33M67                 Firmware Version Number JC4B                 LBA Size 48-bit LBA                 Power On Count 81 times                 Power On Time 3.8 days                 Speed 7200 RPM                 Features S.M.A.R.T., AAM, NCQ                 Max. Transfer Mode SATA III 6.0Gb/s                 Used Transfer Mode SATA III 6.0Gb/s                 Interface SATA                 Capacity 931 GB                 Real size 1,000,204,886,016 bytes                 RAID Type None                   S.M.A.R.T                     Status Warning                 Temperature 42 °C                 Temperature Range OK (less than 50 °C)               S.M.A.R.T attributes                     Attribute name Real value Current Worst Threshold Raw Value Status     1 Read Error Rate 0 94 94 6 4322569 Good     3 Spin-Up Time 0 ms 100 100 0 0 Good     4 Start/Stop Count 20 100 100 20 14 Good     5 Reallocated Sectors Count 460 89 89 36 00000001CC Good     7 Seek Error Rate 0 100 253 30 00000AF747 Good     9 Power-On Hours (POH) 3d 19h 100 100 0 000000005B Good     0A Spin Retry Count 0 100 100 97 0 Good     0C Device Power Cycle Count 81 100 100 20 51 Good     B7 SATA Downshift Error Count 0 100 100 0 0 Good     B8 End-to-End error / IOEDC 0 100 100 99 0 Good     BB Reported Uncorrectable Errors 931 1 1 0 00000003A3 Good     BC Command Timeout 309243215969 100 253 0 550061 Good     BD High Fly Writes (WDC) 14 86 86 0 000000000E Good     BE Airflow Temperature 42 °C 58 53 45 002A29002A Good     C2 Temperature 42 °C 42 47 0 000000002A Good     C3 Hardware ECC Recovered 0 33 33 0 4322569 Good     C5 Current Pending Sector Count 614 86 85 0 266 Good     C6 Uncorrectable Sector Count 614 86 85 0 266 Good     C7 UltraDMA CRC Error Count 0 200 200 0 0 Good     F0 Head Flying Hours 4d 18h 100 253 0 72 Good     F1 Total LBAs Written 4100625713 100 253 0 00F46A9531 Good     F2 Total LBAs Read 2375458918 100 253 0 008D96A066 Good                         Partition 0                   Partition ID Disk #1, Partition #0                 Disk Letter F:                 File System NTFS                 Volume Serial Number CA641537                 Size 931 GB                 Used Space 208 MB (0%)                 Free Space 931 GB (100%)                                
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Well, that doesn't look handy. I'll try again: From what I can see it would appear to be OK.

 

ST31000524AS                     Manufacturer Seagate                 Form Factor 3.5"                 Heads 16                 Cylinders 121601                 Tracks 31008255                 Sectors 1953520065                 SATA type SATA-III 6.0Gb/s                 Device type Fixed                 ATA Standard ATA8-ACS                 Serial Number 5VP33M67                 Firmware Version Number JC4B                 LBA Size 48-bit LBA                 Power On Count 81 times                 Power On Time 3.8 days                 Speed 7200 RPM                 Features S.M.A.R.T., AAM, NCQ                 Max. Transfer Mode SATA III 6.0Gb/s                 Used Transfer Mode SATA III 6.0Gb/s                 Interface SATA                 Capacity 931 GB                 Real size 1,000,204,886,016 bytes                 RAID Type None                   S.M.A.R.T                     Status Warning                 Temperature 42 °C                 Temperature Range OK (less than 50 °C)               S.M.A.R.T attributes                     Attribute name Real value Current Worst Threshold Raw Value Status     1 Read Error Rate 0 94 94 6 4322569 Good     3 Spin-Up Time 0 ms 100 100 0 0 Good     4 Start/Stop Count 20 100 100 20 14 Good     5 Reallocated Sectors Count 460 89 89 36 00000001CC Good     7 Seek Error Rate 0 100 253 30 00000AF747 Good     9 Power-On Hours (POH) 3d 19h 100 100 0 000000005B Good     0A Spin Retry Count 0 100 100 97 0 Good     0C Device Power Cycle Count 81 100 100 20 51 Good     B7 SATA Downshift Error Count 0 100 100 0 0 Good     B8 End-to-End error / IOEDC 0 100 100 99 0 Good     BB Reported Uncorrectable Errors 931 1 1 0 00000003A3 Good     BC Command Timeout 309243215969 100 253 0 550061 Good     BD High Fly Writes (WDC) 14 86 86 0 000000000E Good     BE Airflow Temperature 42 °C 58 53 45 002A29002A Good     C2 Temperature 42 °C 42 47 0 000000002A Good     C3 Hardware ECC Recovered 0 33 33 0 4322569 Good     C5 Current Pending Sector Count 614 86 85 0 266 Good     C6 Uncorrectable Sector Count 614 86 85 0 266 Good     C7 UltraDMA CRC Error Count 0 200 200 0 0 Good     F0 Head Flying Hours 4d 18h 100 253 0 72 Good     F1 Total LBAs Written 4100625713 100 253 0 00F46A9531 Good     F2 Total LBAs Read 2375458918 100 253 0 008D96A066 Good                         Partition 0                   Partition ID Disk #1, Partition #0                 Disk Letter F:                 File System NTFS                 Volume Serial Number CA641537                 Size 931 GB                 Used Space 208 MB (0%)                 Free Space 931 GB (100%)                                
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Based on the data I just sent, I went back into diskpart, cleaned the disk, created a primary partition and formatted it NTFS. Went back to disk mgnt and everything was fine?? I'm thinking that I have a faulty connector on the back of the HDD. The plastic separator on the power connector is cracked, I didn't think that would be problem but I did wiggle it this morning before I started this so maybe that's it. Problem solved (for now)


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Seagates are seldom a good thing.  Worst hard drives on the planet as far as reliability goes and their SMART is overly optimistic.  How can these two be Good?:

 

BB Reported Uncorrectable Errors 931 1 1 0 00000003A3 Good    

BC Command Timeout 309243215969 100 253 0 550061 Good

 

.  Get Seatools for Windows

https://www.seagate....ols-win-master/

(works on Win 10 even if it doesn't says so)

Once you install it it will create a shortcut on your desktop.

Right click on the shortcut and Run as Admin.

 

Select the Seagate drive.  Under the Basic Tests is Extended (generic) test.

Run its extended test.  (Come back in a day or so as this is a very slow test). If it finds any errors it will often offer to try and correct them.  Let it.

 

Just saw your latest post.  A bad connection might explain the large number of Command Timeouts.  Check Speccy again.  Has the number stopped rising?


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Just read your reply and ran speccy again. What I got was very confusing. On further investigation I find that somehow I got readings from at least 2 of my 5 hdd and managed to combine the readings as though they were the same. So forget what I sent, I'll have to it again. My apologies. 


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I watched the Speccy display while was checking HDD status and saw it switch several times over to a different HDD?? Anyway, I attached a current Speccy file of the problem drive. 

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Drive looks OK.  Much better than most Seagates.

Lot easier to read this way.  Is the drive still a problem?  Thought you said you found a loose connection.


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