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Here is where I stand:

 

a) Win 7 - SSD Kingston 120gig - works great

b) Win 10 - SSD Samsung 500gig - works now after a win 10 windows reset.

 

At present, these cannot dual boot.  I am working on that.

 

Background:

1) Before my win 10 crash on the Samsung, I had dual boot - each OS was on a separate drive.  Maybe I wasn't clear before.  The dual boot was never one drive, it was always two drives.

 

2) At this point,  I want to take the working 120gig kingston with Win 7 and clone it to a completely new drive 240gig drive - BUT the drive already has a working copy of Win 10 on it (not needed), so I am trying to figure out :

 

i) how to first FORMAT the 240gig drive

ii) what partition to create

iii) lastly CLONE the working 120 gig win 7 to a clean 240 gig drive.  


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In post #63 You said

3) When I boot win 7 (the drive that works) -although it never did this before the win 10 crash, it now does a chkdsk of all drives when booting.  I have had to press a key to stop it since the crash.  I am not sure if this is supposed to happen or not AND whether this will affect the new win 10 drive that is now fixed. 

so how come now?

"a) Win 7 - SSD Kingston 120gig - works great"

 

Something is not the same.

Before, " W 7 running chckdisk. Now, Not running chckdisk. is there a differnce in the drives connected? or did you use chkntfs /x ??

 

The W7 drive must be 100%, any issues not fixed will exist on the drive you clone too.

 

OK.

1.  You want to use the 500GB SSD as a Boot drive that has a fresh working  W10 installed?   100% working,? completely up to date?

2.   Format the 250GB SSD and transfer/cloned copy of W7 from the 120GB SSD?

 

What kind of Boot do you want,

Standard Win boot where a choice is given, on screen, after POST? you can change the default order and the time display.

Use a boot manager like EasyBCD?


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Something is not the same.

Before, " W 7 running chckdisk. Now, Not running chckdisk. is there a differnce in the drives connected? or did you use chkntfs /x ??

Yes you are right.  I was referring to the fact that win 7 now boots.  Even with the check disk, it does boot fine.  

It seems that since I have been adding and subtracting drives in an effort to get the original problem fixed, this "check disk" is now a regular occurrence.  So you are completely correct in saying that I should get the "check disk" issue fixed before the cloning.

 

 

 

OK.

1.  You want to use the 500GB SSD as a Boot drive that has a fresh working  W10 installed?   100% working,? completely up to date?

2.   Format the 250GB SSD and transfer/cloned copy of W7 from the 120GB SSD?

 

the 500gig ssd has a new working copy of win 10 on it. It is up-to-date.  I had to use the windows reset on it and it took my old windows and called it "windows.old".

 

 

What kind of Boot do you want,

Standard Win boot where a choice is given, on screen, after POST? you can change the default order and the time display.

Use a boot manager like EasyBCD?

Prior to original issue, I was using EasyBCD.  I am not sure of what the best method for dual boot is at this point.


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All clear now.

I will set up for a Windows Boot configuration which you can change to EasyBCD later if you like.

I will post back in a couple of days after the calibrations.


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ty, I look forward to that.  Have a great Xmas.


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Gday, Happy New Year.   I hope you had a good Christmas.   We will make sure W7 is working correctly before moving it to another SSD.

Please give the make and model of your Motherboard, so I can view the BIOS screens.

In total, how many drives do you have? please list them.

Do you have a spare USB flash stick? what size?


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Gday netrate.

Been a while since you posted, please give us an update on how things are going. 


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Thanks for reaching out.  Unfortunately I am in the middle of a lot of work and so I don't want to take any chances destroying what I have.  I will have some time coming up to work on it.

Presently,

1) boot

2) press f12

3) pick the 120gig Kingston  or 500gig Samsung (depending on which OS I need)

4) Pick win 7 with 120gig kinstong

5) Pick win 10 with 500 gig Samsung

6) Press a key to avoid the dskchk on startup.

 

I have been doing that since I got things working.  I want a way out of it, but haven't had time of late.


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Thanks for the update.

I understand you don't want to make changes at the moment.   Get back when you are ready.

 

Please give the make and model of your Motherboard, so I can view the BIOS screens.

Do you have a spare USB flash stick? what size?


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Well, I guess I have no choice but to tackle it now since my windows 10 has stopped booting.

Motherboard : gigabyte GA-970A-d3 version 1.4

 

As I said in my last post, I have been dual booting and clicking to avoid the disk check which using it - but today I tried to log into win 10 and when I got to the screen just before the wallpaper and the login password, the screen stayed black.  I could not use ALT-CTRL-DEL or anything. I had to restart.

I tried to use the STARTUP REPAIR and that did not work either.

 

Last night, when win 10 was working I made a RESTORE POINT.  When trying to fix this today, I went to USE SYSTEM RESTORE POINT but I am gutted because it says "No system restore points have been created".  That is impossible. I made one last night, successfully.

 

I am so tired of this.  

 

Will not boot to safe mode either

Advanced Startup repair says "it cannot repair it"

MCT start up repair does not work


Edited by netrate, 20 January 2021 - 09:59 PM.

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Strange you have no restore points as earlier you set it up an checked it was working.

Boot into W7, > disk Management, hoping the W10 drive shows,

Right click on the partition letter containing W10 > from the drop down list, left click on explore.

Can you see the contents of the drive?


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This is from Win 7.  I used to be able to check the drive before no problem but since the BSOD, no more.

Ok, just tried that - tells me "it is not accessible "

Drive is healthy.

I can only see the contents through CMD.

 

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Remove Windows 7 hard drive. Are you able to get to the Windows 10 Recovery Environment Command Prompt, either booting with a Boot USB device or a combination of keys? If you do, run FRST64 from the USB Device and post the FRST.txt report. Make sure you put a checkmark on List BCD.


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Just seen JSntgRvr beat my post, so please respond to him first, follow his advice, come to my post if nec. 

 

As you can see the files, you may have a boot issue.   Download the free Macrium Reflect and and install, on the left, click home use and follow the prompts > https://www.macrium.com/reflectfree

When you do boot into the rescue USB, click on the RESTORE on the top menu. 

 

Before you create a rescue USB, please read this article, > https://blog.macrium...nt-cca57a4ebc61

 

Here is the latest user guide, > https://updates.macr..._user_guide.pdf


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