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Kivrin

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Hi,
I hear about this "computer recorder", where you can record everything that someone is typing on their computer. One example was Acespy.com ... my question is how do I know if I'm being spyed on? This doesn't fall under normal "spyware", right? So my normal scans won't find it. But if someone has installed this program on my computer and is recording everything that I type, how would I know?
Thanks,
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Night_Shift

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Hello Kivrin,

You might wanna try to download AVG, and antipsyware remover or something like that,

hope it works :tazz:

regards,
NS
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Ctrl-Alt-Del
Bring up the running processess box.
Go through the list, look for anything suspicious.

also most of these programs are told to start when windows is started,
goto
http://www.windowsstartup.com
download startup inspector for windows v.2
run the program, it will tell you exactly what programs are starting up, what they are for, and you can even disallow any program to start simply by checking or unchecking a box.

If you find things that you don't know of. a simple Google search will usually lead to answers, and if all else fails you can ask here as well.
Good Luck

Edited by phybyr0ptyk, 04 July 2005 - 02:08 PM.

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You can also post a HijackThis log in the Malware Removal section of this site, and one of the Staff members here can take a look to see if you do indeed have something like this installed...and help you safely UNinstall it...as well as teach you how to prevent things like this from happening again in the future! :tazz:
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Hum? I have got to say that all of the "geek people" gave some good answere, BUT I think I would have wanted to ask a couple of questions of the poster about why they are worried about someone recording whats going on on that PC.

Like = Are you a juvenile who is going to adult sites, or doing other things that you know you should not be doing, and are worried that Mom has snuck a net nanny thyp of program into her machine to track your actions online?"

Like = "Are you an employee who is using the companies equiptment in personal ways and you are trying to find out where to look to see if the boss was slick enough to upgrade his security enough to be able to catch employees who are misusing company resorces?"

Last but not least = "what gives you cause to wonder if someone is going over what you do on that PC?"

Hey, just slap me if I am wrong here, however the way that you asked your question leads me to belive that you are either up to no good, or that you are thinking about doing something that you know you are not supposed to do.

But that's just my security conscious nature kicking in here. Bye Wendy
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Those questions weren't asked because the poster wasn't asking about not being able to access things. The poster only asked about things like key stroke loggers and simple recording devices. If he/she was a juvenile then he would have been asking how to disable software such as netnanny, and as we all know, we here at G2G will not help anyone no matter what age circumvent any security related software. Things that "record" where you are going are not mostly used for prevention but more so to steal vital information.

I am just as security minded as the next person but

Like = Are you a juvenile who is going to adult sites, or doing other things that you know you should not be doing, and are worried that Mom has snuck a net nanny thyp of program into her machine to track your actions online?"

A typical kelogger doesn't prevent, and if the parents were concerned, they would use prevention software not a type of spyware thats used to steal passwords or other personal information.

Like = "Are you an employee who is using the companies equiptment in personal ways and you are trying to find out where to look to see if the boss was slick enough to upgrade his security enough to be able to catch employees who are misusing company resorces?"

Same goes for a corporation, maybe not as bad as a child looking at pornography, but none the less, if a boss is that suspicious then the person said has been busted already anyway. Even more busted if he removes any software from his employeers computers.

Last but not least = "what gives you cause to wonder if someone is going over what you do on that PC?"

I have found keyloggers on my machine before from someone unknown to me, most likely a script kiddie trying to steal my passwords, but hey you never know, it is always a good idea to know exactly what is on your machine.

Hey, just slap me if I am wrong here, however the way that you asked your question leads me to belive that you are either up to no good, or that you are thinking about doing something that you know you are not supposed to do.

I didn't get the same feeling here. I didn't feel like the question was leading to anything more than seeing what may or may not be installed on the said machine. Besides, if he/she is being watched so closely there are other methods besides keyloggers that can be used to see where the machine has traveled across the internet, and any one of those good programs that a parent will use, is password protected against removal.
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Hi phybyr0ptyk, Like I said at the start, you guys had given some good replies to the posters question, however, as soon as I read the question, my security conscious self sat up stright in my chair.

I have been trained to catch odd things, and the way that the poster asked the question tripped a blue flag for me.

Please note the site that they referenced in their question. Go take a look at what's there, then come back, and tell me if you still think that the poster is actually worried about something as simple as a keylogger.

That poster never said a word about a keylogger in their question, neither did I in anything that I said. You simply made the supposition that a keyloger was the topic of their question, and my answer.

Go and "LOOK" at the site that they had given you as a reference, I don't think that there is anything near as simple as a keylogger on that whole site. Shoot, keyloggers are really too easy to find and remove.

You said:

>> Besides, if he/she is being watched so closely there are other methods besides keyloggers that can be used to see where the machine has traveled across the internet, and any one of those good programs that a parent will use, is password protected against removal.<<

Think "Home Security", or "Business IT Security", and go take a look at the offerings on that site, here check this out:

>>What is Spy Software?
Spy Software or monitoring software is a computer program that secretly monitors your PC's activity. This includes chats, emails and other Internet activity. Spy software runs in complete stealth, so it is completely hidden to others using your PC. There are no icons, program groups or any other mention of the program. You access the recorded activity by email or by pressing a set of keys together and then entering your password into a window that pops up. Spy Software is designed in a way that doesn't slow down the computer. <<

That came from that site, and that is the kind of stuff that the poster wants to know how to find if it is on the PC that they are using. Bye

Wendy
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wendy k. walker, don't just jump to your own conclusions. And also keep in mind that should (I'm saying should) Kivrin, really be doing any of those things, why the heck would he answer your question and say out loud that, yes, he's underage and surfing adult websites? Who in the right mind, for that matter, would admit as much on a public website?

I'm just trying to put myself in that guy's shoes right now. I come online, ask about how I can keep track of whether or not I'm being spied on, and some random user leaps out at me and asks me these, frankly, rather insulting questions. Maybe it is just me being sensitive, but I do know that I'd be pretty annoyed if that did happen to me.

Of course, that's just my opinion, so don't take it too personally. :tazz:
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Hi phybyr0ptyk, Like I said at the start,  you guys had given some good replies to the posters question, however, as soon as I read the question, my security conscious self sat up stright in my chair.

I have been trained to catch odd things, and the way that the poster asked the question tripped a blue flag for me.

Please note the site that they referenced in their question. Go take a look at what's there, then come back, and tell me if you still think that the poster is actually worried about something as simple as a keylogger.

That poster never said a word about a keylogger in their question, neither did I in anything that I said. You simply made the supposition that a keyloger was the topic of their question, and my answer.

Go and "LOOK" at the site that they had given you as a reference, I don't think that there is anything near as simple as a keylogger on that whole site. Shoot, keyloggers are really too easy to find and remove.

You said:

>> Besides, if he/she is being watched so closely there are other methods besides keyloggers that can be used to see where the machine has traveled across the internet, and any one of those good programs that a parent will use, is password protected against removal.<<

Think "Home Security", or "Business IT Security", and go take a look at the offerings on that site, here check this out:

>>What is Spy Software?
Spy Software or monitoring software is a computer program that secretly monitors your PC's activity. This includes chats, emails and other Internet activity. Spy software runs in complete stealth, so it is completely hidden to others using your PC. There are no icons, program groups or any other mention of the program. You access the recorded activity by email or by pressing a set of keys together and then entering your password into a window that pops up. Spy Software is designed in a way that doesn't slow down the computer. <<

That came from that site, and that is the kind of stuff that the poster wants to know how to find if it is on the PC that they are using. Bye

Wendy

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I have seen the site. Just a bunch of talked up keyloggers.It doesn't matter what kind of technology you place in a program, if it records key strokes and emails them it is a keylogger. No program whatsoever is completly stealthed. And besides, if that is his machine, and he is of age, he deserves to know if anything like that is on his machine. Knowing it is there, and knowing how to remove/disable it are two totally seperate monsters. The poster simply asked how to find if it was there. If he comes back and asks how to disable it, I am absolutely certain he will be directed to talk to the person that placed it on the computer anyways. Not trying to pick a fight with you but you are way over analyzing the original question.

my question is how do I know if I'm being spyed on? This doesn't fall under normal "spyware", right? So my normal scans won't find it. But if someone has installed this program on my computer and is recording everything that I type, how would I know?
Thanks,
--Kivrin

We have only answered that question, but then again if these running processess have total stealth, then shoot, he wont know it anyhow.
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phybyr0ptyk

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ohh and just for your information wendy k walker, I know a very small simple keylogger written in python that no windows program will detect. it has been around for years.
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