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#16
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only if you have them both set as master.

Here's what you can try. Put your BAD drive in the freezer for three hours.

After three hours, do the following:

Your motherboard has two IDE controllers. Do not hook then, two drives to the same one. In the working computer, install working drive so that it boots normally.

Then install the drive that is NOT working on the other IDE controller all by itself (no other drive, no cdrom, nothing).

At that point, does BIOS recognize both drives?

Boot into windows, and immediately try to copy all data you want saved over to the new drive.

Good luck
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This is for the western drive

Installing the new drive as the secondary (Slave) drive:
If connecting your drive as the secondary drive on the cable with another IDE device, move the jumper shunt on the drive from pins 1 & 2 to pins 3 & 4. Then configure the jumper on the other IDE device as Master. Connect the drive to the gray connector at the middle of the cable, and the other IDE device to the black connector located at the end of the cable.
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ok will do that and see what happens
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for segate Barracuda 7200.7 Installation Guide
ST3200822A, ST3200821A, ST3160021A, ST3160023A, ST3120022A,
ST3120026A, ST380011A, ST380013A, and ST340014A
Setting the jumpers
Refer to the jumper settings illustration below or on your drive label to configure
the drive for your system. Jumper settings can also be accessed
online from our web site at www.seagate.com.
• Master or single drive: The drive is shipped configured for a master or
a single drive with a jumper set on pins 7 and 8.
• Drive is slave: To configure the drive as a slave or second drive on the
cable, remove all the jumpers.
• Master with non-ATA compatible slave: Use this setting if the slave
drive is not recognized. Configure the master drive with a jumper set on
pins 5 and 6 and pins 7 and 8 to enable this option.

• Cable select: Computers that use cable select to determine the master
and slave drives by selecting or
deselecting pin 28, CSEL, on
the interface bus. To enable
cable select, set a jumper on
pins 5 and 6.
• Alternate capacity jumper:
Drives with a 40-Gbyte capacity
or greater are limited to 32
Gbytes. Use this jumper only if
you have a legacy system with a
BIOS that does not support
large capacity disc drives. When
using the alternate capacity
jumper,
• Manager software is required to
achieve the drive’s full capacity.
Attaching cables and mounting the drive
1. Attach one end of the drive interface cable to the interface connector
on your computer’s motherboard (see your computer manual for connector
locations).
Caution. Align pin 1 on the motherboard connector with pin 1 on your
drive connector. Pin 1 is marked by a stripe on one side of the
cable.
2. Secure the drive using four 6-32 UNC mounting screws in either the
side-mounting or bottom-mounting holes. Insert the screws no more
than 0.20 inches (5.08 mm) into the bottom-mounting holes and no
more than 0.14 inches (3.55 mm) into the side-mounting holes.
Note. Do not overtighten the screws or use metric screws. This may damage
the drive.
3. Attach the interface connector and the power connector to the drive.
Configuring the BIOS
Close your computer case and restart your computer. your computer may
automatically detect your new drive. If your computer does not automatically
detect your new drive, follow the steps below.
a. Restart your computer. While the computer restarts, run the System
Setup program (sometimes called BIOS or CMOS setup). This is usually
done by pressing a special key, such as DELETE, ESC, or F1 during
the startup process.
b. Within the System Setup program, instruct the system to auto detect
your new drive.
c. Enable LBA and UDMA modes, if available and then save the settings
and exit the Setup program.
When your computer restarts, it should recognize your new drive. If your
system still doesn’t recognize your new drive, see the troubleshooting section
on the back of this sheet.
Options jumper block
2 6 8 4
1 7 5 3
Drive is slave
*Master or single drive
*Cable select
Master with non ATAcompatible
slave
Alternate capacity.
Limits drive capacity
to 32 Gbytes
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Used book that came with Seagate to set it to Master - got on internet and checked WD site for slave settings.
when I run the WD alone as master and the screen says detecting IDE drives - it says Primary Master - WDC WD200bb 18.20D
When I run the SG as Master and WD as slave the computer will no longer recognize it - it says Master (then lists the SG) Slave none Then the windows screen appears like it is loading and never changes - you can hear the Wd drive going click click click for about 15-30 sec and then you hear like a winddown then it get quiet for a few seconds and then starts over with the click etc.
am beginning to think the thing is really fried
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try Gerryf's idea about the freezer
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OK but when I take it out won't the condensation cause a short and kill my whole system
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One IDE controller has HD attached and Other IDE has CDRW and DVD drive attached to it - should I just unattach the two drives from the IDE and use a different ribbon to attach the WD drive to it?
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OK but when I take it out won't the condensation cause a short and kill my whole system

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Don't know
but Gerryf is Very GOOD
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OK will try that tomorrow night Thanks
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Froze it connected like GerryF said and both drives were recognized - The SG as the Primary and WD as secondary but it would not boot. Am going to let it dry out for a couple of days check the settings on both drives again and retry. Can't figure out why my Primary won't boot up when the WD is connected.
Thanks again will let you know what happens when I retry
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sounds like not jumpered right as you say check the jumpers
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Well, I finally got the settings right and set both HDS as single masters hooked up to 2 different Eide ports and started the computer. It recognized good HD as Primary Master and bad HD as Secondary master. The boot up got as far as the Windows XP screen and the little blue dashes just kept going round and round and round. I let it do this for about five minutes and finally turned it off. Unless you have another suggestion I guess I kiss this HD goodbye.
Thanks for all your help
Carol :tazz:

Edited by chwhitecat, 09 July 2005 - 10:21 AM.

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One last question please? Is there any chance it might work if I boot up my good HD and then while it is running connect the bad one?
Thank you
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I would not like to recommend it. Let me read up on both drives
it should boot even if the second drive is dead unless it is not getting a signal back from the slave and it goes in a loop looking for it. But since it shows the second drive it should have the signal to allow the boot to continue.
Can you boot in safe mode?
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