[sloppypa]

I am working on my dads laptop and I have done everything to remove the winfixer that I can think of, I also did all of the recommended things adaware, ewido etc, here is my hijack file from his CPu, please help Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.1
Scan saved at 8:57:22 PM, on 8/13/2005
Platform: Windows XP SP1 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP1 (6.00.2800.1106)

Running processes:
C:\WINNT\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\services.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINNT\System32\S24EvMon.exe
C:\WINNT\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\WINNT\System32\Ati2evxx.exe
C:\WINNT\bWV0dXNlcgAA\command.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\LxrJD31s.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\Marimba\CASTAN~1\Tuner.exe
C:\WINNT\System32\RegSrvc.exe
C:\WINNT\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\ZCfgSvc.exe
C:\WINNT\Explorer.exe
C:\WINNT\System32\1XConfig.exe
C:\WINNT\System32\rundll32.exe
C:\Program Files\Intel\NCS\PROSet\PRONoMgr.exe
C:\Program Files\Lexmark 5200 series\lxbtbmgr.exe
C:\Program Files\Lexmark 5200 series\lxbtbmon.exe
C:\winnt\system32\cd1.exe
C:\WINNT\TEMP\sysnet.exe
C:\WINNT\etb\pokapoka63.exe
C:\Program Files\TrojanHunter 4.2\THGuard.exe
C:\Program Files\CMAPP\Client\cmappclient.exe
C:\WINNT\DvzCommon\DvzMsgr.exe
C:\Program Files\eFax Messenger 3.5\J2GDllCmd.exe
C:\Program Files\eFax Messenger 3.5\J2GTray.exe
C:\Palm\HOTSYNC.EXE
C:\Program Files\orhb\mtee.exe
C:\Program Files\ewido\security suite\ewidoguard.exe
C:\Program Files\ewido\security suite\ewidoctrl.exe
c:\program files\internet explorer\iexplore.exe
C:\WINNT\System32\MDM.EXE
C:\HijackThis.exe

R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Bar = http://websearch.drs...esearch.cgi?id=
R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = http://websearch.drs...esearch.cgi?id=
R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://www.fieldfirst.nefn.com
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Bar = http://websearch.drs...esearch.cgi?id=
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = http://websearch.drs...esearch.cgi?id=
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://www.fieldfirst.nefn.com
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,SearchAssistant = http://websearch.drs...esearch.cgi?id=
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,CustomizeSearch = http://websearch.drs...esearch.cgi?id=
R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\SearchURL,(Default) = websearch.drsnsrch.com/q.cgi?q=
R3 - URLSearchHook: (no name) - {02EE5B04-F144-47BB-83FB-A60BD91B74A9} - C:\Program Files\SurfSideKick 3\SskBho.dll
F2 - REG:system.ini: Shell=Explorer.exe C:\WINNT\Nail.exe
O2 - BHO: Google Toolbar Helper - {AA58ED58-01DD-4d91-8333-CF10577473F7} - c:\program files\google\googletoolbar1.dll
O3 - Toolbar: &Google - {2318C2B1-4965-11d4-9B18-009027A5CD4F} - c:\program files\google\googletoolbar1.dll
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [IgfxTray] C:\WINNT\System32\igfxtray.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ATIModeChange] Ati2mdxx.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [PRONoMgr.exe] C:\Program Files\Intel\NCS\PROSet\PRONoMgr.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Lexmark 5200 series] "C:\Program Files\Lexmark 5200 series\lxbtbmgr.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [FaxCenterServer] "C:\Program Files\Lexmark Fax Solutions\fm3032.exe" /s
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [cd1] c:\winnt\system32\cd1.exe /nocomm
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [LXBTCATS] rundll32 C:\WINNT\System32\spool\DRIVERS\W32X86\3\LXBTtime.dll,_RunDLLEntry@16
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ttupt] C:\WINNT\ttupt.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Sysnet] C:\WINNT\TEMP\sysnet.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [System service62] C:\WINNT\etb\pokapoka63.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [gcasServ] "C:\Program Files\Microsoft AntiSpyware\gcasServ.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [System service63] C:\WINNT\etb\pokapoka63.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [AUNPS2] RUNDLL32 AUNPS2.DLL,_Run@16
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [THGuard] "C:\Program Files\TrojanHunter 4.2\THGuard.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SurfSideKick 3] C:\Program Files\SurfSideKick 3\Ssk.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [CMAPP] "C:\Program Files\CMAPP\Client\cmappclient.exe"
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [IBpFRPJ9U] mnmtclog.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [SurfSideKick 3] C:\Program Files\SurfSideKick 3\Ssk.exe
O4 - Startup: HotSync Manager.LNK = C:\Palm\HOTSYNC.EXE
O4 - Global Startup: Dataviz Messenger.lnk = C:\WINNT\DvzCommon\DvzMsgr.exe
O4 - Global Startup: eFax DllCmd 3.5.lnk = C:\Program Files\eFax Messenger 3.5\J2GDllCmd.exe
O4 - Global Startup: eFax Tray Menu 3.5.lnk = C:\Program Files\eFax Messenger 3.5\J2GTray.exe
O6 - HKCU\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Control Panel present
O8 - Extra context menu item: &Google Search - res://C:\Program Files\Google\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmsearch.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: &Translate English Word - res://C:\Program Files\Google\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmwordtrans.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Backward Links - res://C:\Program Files\Google\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmbacklinks.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Cached Snapshot of Page - res://C:\Program Files\Google\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmcache.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Similar Pages - res://C:\Program Files\Google\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmsimilar.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Translate Page into English - res://C:\Program Files\Google\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmtrans.html
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {CD67F990-D8E9-11d2-98FE-00C0F0318AFE} - (no file)
O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\MSMSGS.EXE
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Windows Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\MSMSGS.EXE
O12 - Plugin for .spop: C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\Plugins\NPDocBox.dll
O14 - IERESET.INF: START_PAGE_URL=http://mww.metlife.com
O16 - DPF: {17492023-C23A-453E-A040-C7C580BBF700} (Windows Genuine Advantage Validation Tool) - http://go.microsoft....k/?linkid=39204
O16 - DPF: {3BFFE033-BF43-11D5-A271-00A024A51325} (iNotes6 Class) - https://bpmail.metbp.com/iNotes6.cab
O16 - DPF: {6414512B-B978-451D-A0D8-FCFDF33E833C} (WUWebControl Class) - http://v5.windowsupd...b?1119015646278
O16 - DPF: {9A9307A0-7DA4-4DAF-B042-5009F29E09E1} (ActiveScan Installer Class) - http://www.pandasoft...free/asinst.cab
O17 - HKLM\System\CCS\Services\Tcpip\Parameters: Domain = metlife.com
O17 - HKLM\Software\..\Telephony: DomainName = metlife.com
O17 - HKLM\System\CS1\Services\Tcpip\Parameters: Domain = metlife.com
O20 - Winlogon Notify: Dynamic Directory - C:\WINNT\system32\wfapi.dll
O20 - Winlogon Notify: igfxcui - C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\igfxsrvc.dll
O20 - Winlogon Notify: PCANotify - C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\PCANotify.dll
O20 - Winlogon Notify: Sebring - C:\WINNT\System32\LgNotify.dll
O23 - Service: Ati HotKey Poller - Unknown owner - C:\WINNT\System32\Ati2evxx.exe
O23 - Service: pcAnywhere Host Service (awhost32) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Symantec\pcAnywhere\awhost32.exe
O23 - Service: Command Service (cmdService) - Unknown owner - C:\WINNT\bWV0dXNlcgAA\command.exe
O23 - Service: EDM TCP Notify Server (EDMEXECD) - Unknown owner - C:\EDMNT\EDMEXECD.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: ewido security suite control - ewido networks - C:\Program Files\ewido\security suite\ewidoctrl.exe
O23 - Service: ewido security suite guard - ewido networks - C:\Program Files\ewido\security suite\ewidoguard.exe
O23 - Service: lxbt_device - Lexmark International, Inc. - C:\WINNT\System32\lxbtcoms.exe
O23 - Service: Lexar JD31 (LxrJD31s) - Unknown owner - C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\LxrJD31s.exe
O23 - Service: Castanet Tuner 4.6 (Marimba) - Marimba, Inc. - C:\PROGRA~1\Marimba\CASTAN~1\Tuner.exe
O23 - Service: Intel NCS NetService (NetSvc) - Intel® Corporation - C:\Program Files\Intel\NCS\Sync\NetSvc.exe
O23 - Service: pcAnywhere Install Service - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Symantec\pcAnywhere\pca_run.exe
O23 - Service: RegSrvc - Intel Corporation - C:\WINNT\System32\RegSrvc.exe
O23 - Service: Spectrum24 Event Monitor (S24EventMonitor) - Intel Corporation - C:\WINNT\System32\S24EvMon.exe
O23 - Service: System Startup Service (SvcProc) - Unknown owner - C:\WINNT\svcproc.exe

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You have the latest version of VX2. Download L2mfix from

http://www.atribune....oads/l2mfix.exe

Save the file to your desktop and double click l2mfix.exe. Click the Install button to extract the files and follow the prompts, then open the newly added l2mfix folder on your desktop. Double click l2mfix.bat and select option #1 for Run Find Log by typing 1 and then pressing enter. This will scan your computer and it may appear nothing is happening, then, after a minute or 2, notepad will open with a log. Copy the contents of that log and paste it into this thread.

IMPORTANT: Do NOT run option #2 OR any other files in the l2mfix folder until you are asked to do so!

[therock247uk]

You have the latest version of VX2. Download L2mfix from

http://www.atribune....oads/l2mfix.exe

Save the file to your desktop and double click l2mfix.exe. Click the Install button to extract the files and follow the prompts, then open the newly added l2mfix folder on your desktop. Double click l2mfix.bat and select option #1 for Run Find Log by typing 1 and then pressing enter. This will scan your computer and it may appear nothing is happening, then, after a minute or 2, notepad will open with a log. Copy the contents of that log and paste it into this thread.

IMPORTANT: Do NOT run option #2 OR any other files in the l2mfix folder until you are asked to do so!

[sloppypa]

L2MFIX find log 1.03
These are the registry keys present
**********************************************************************************
Winlogon/notify:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Notify]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Notify\crypt32chain]
"Asynchronous"=dword:00000000
"Impersonate"=dword:00000000
"DllName"=hex(2):63,00,72,00,79,00,70,00,74,00,33,00,32,00,2e,00,64,00,6c,00,\
6c,00,00,00
"Logoff"="ChainWlxLogoffEvent"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Notify\cryptnet]
"Asynchronous"=dword:00000000
"Impersonate"=dword:00000000
"DllName"=hex(2):63,00,72,00,79,00,70,00,74,00,6e,00,65,00,74,00,2e,00,64,00,\
6c,00,6c,00,00,00
"Logoff"="CryptnetWlxLogoffEvent"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Notify\cscdll]
"DLLName"="cscdll.dll"
"Logon"="WinlogonLogonEvent"
"Logoff"="WinlogonLogoffEvent"
"ScreenSaver"="WinlogonScreenSaverEvent"
"Startup"="WinlogonStartupEvent"
"Shutdown"="WinlogonShutdownEvent"
"StartShell"="WinlogonStartShellEvent"
"Impersonate"=dword:00000000
"Asynchronous"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Notify\igfxcui]
@=""
"DLLName"="igfxsrvc.dll"
"Asynchronous"=dword:00000001
"Impersonate"=dword:00000001
"Unlock"="WinlogonUnlockEvent"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Notify\PCANotify]
"Asynchronous"=dword:00000000
"Impersonate"=dword:00000000
"Unlock"="WLEventUnlock"
"Lock"="WLEventLock"
"Startup"="WLEventStartup"
"DllName"="PCANotify.dll"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Notify\ScCertProp]
"DLLName"="wlnotify.dll"
"Logon"="SCardStartCertProp"
"Logoff"="SCardStopCertProp"
"Lock"="SCardSuspendCertProp"
"Unlock"="SCardResumeCertProp"
"Enabled"=dword:00000001
"Impersonate"=dword:00000001
"Asynchronous"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Notify\Schedule]
"Asynchronous"=dword:00000000
"DllName"=hex(2):77,00,6c,00,6e,00,6f,00,74,00,69,00,66,00,79,00,2e,00,64,00,\
6c,00,6c,00,00,00
"Impersonate"=dword:00000000
"StartShell"="SchedStartShell"
"Logoff"="SchedEventLogOff"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Notify\sclgntfy]
"Logoff"="WLEventLogoff"
"Impersonate"=dword:00000000
"Asynchronous"=dword:00000001
"DllName"=hex(2):73,00,63,00,6c,00,67,00,6e,00,74,00,66,00,79,00,2e,00,64,00,\
6c,00,6c,00,00,00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Notify\Sebring]
"Logoff"="SebringUserLogoff"
"Logon"="SebringUserLogon"
"Impersonate"=dword:00000000
"Dllname"="C:\\WINNT\\System32\\LgNotify.dll"
"Asynchronous"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Notify\SensLogn]
"DLLName"="WlNotify.dll"
"Lock"="SensLockEvent"
"Logon"="SensLogonEvent"
"Logoff"="SensLogoffEvent"
"Safe"=dword:00000001
"MaxWait"=dword:00000258
"StartScreenSaver"="SensStartScreenSaverEvent"
"StopScreenSaver"="SensStopScreenSaverEvent"
"Startup"="SensStartupEvent"
"Shutdown"="SensShutdownEvent"
"StartShell"="SensStartShellEvent"
"PostShell"="SensPostShellEvent"
"Disconnect"="SensDisconnectEvent"
"Reconnect"="SensReconnectEvent"
"Unlock"="SensUnlockEvent"
"Impersonate"=dword:00000001
"Asynchronous"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Notify\termsrv]
"Asynchronous"=dword:00000000
"DllName"=hex(2):77,00,6c,00,6e,00,6f,00,74,00,69,00,66,00,79,00,2e,00,64,00,\
6c,00,6c,00,00,00
"Impersonate"=dword:00000000
"Logoff"="TSEventLogoff"
"Logon"="TSEventLogon"
"PostShell"="TSEventPostShell"
"Shutdown"="TSEventShutdown"
"StartShell"="TSEventStartShell"
"Startup"="TSEventStartup"
"MaxWait"=dword:00000258
"Reconnect"="TSEventReconnect"
"Disconnect"="TSEventDisconnect"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Notify\URL]
"Asynchronous"=dword:00000000
"DllName"="C:\\WINNT\\system32\\wfapi.dll"
"Impersonate"=dword:00000000
"Logon"="WinLogon"
"Logoff"="WinLogoff"
"Shutdown"="WinShutdown"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Notify\wlballoon]
"DLLName"="wlnotify.dll"
"Logon"="RegisterTicketExpiredNotificationEvent"
"Logoff"="UnregisterTicketExpiredNotificationEvent"
"Impersonate"=dword:00000001
"Asynchronous"=dword:00000001

**********************************************************************************
useragent:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\User Agent\Post Platform]
"{B6C64ECC-AE95-EC28-68DB-6A5C7722AB90}"=""

**********************************************************************************
Shell Extension key:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Shell Extensions\Approved]
"{e84fda7c-1d6a-45f6-b725-cb260c236066}"="Shell Image Verbs"
"{66e4e4fb-f385-4dd0-8d74-a2efd1bc6178}"="Shell Image Data Factory"
"{3F30C968-480A-4C6C-862D-EFC0897BB84B}"="GDI+ file thumbnail extractor"
"{9DBD2C50-62AD-11d0-B806-00C04FD706EC}"="Summary Info Thumbnail handler (DOCFILES)"
"{EAB841A0-9550-11cf-8C16-00805F1408F3}"="HTML Thumbnail Extractor"
"{eb9b1153-3b57-4e68-959a-a3266bc3d7fe}"="Shell Image Property Handler"
"{0006F045-0000-0000-C000-000000000046}"="Microsoft Outlook Custom Icon Handler"
"{59850401-6664-101B-B21C-00AA004BA90B}"="Microsoft Office Binder Unbind"
"{8DD448E6-C188-4aed-AF92-44956194EB1F}"="Windows Media Player Play as Playlist Context Menu Handler"
"{CE3FB1D1-02AE-4a5f-A6E9-D9F1B4073E6C}"="Windows Media Player Burn Audio CD Context Menu Handler"
"{F1B9284F-E9DC-4e68-9D7E-42362A59F0FD}"="Windows Media Player Add to Playlist Context Menu Handler"
"{2206CDB2-19C1-11D1-89E0-00C04FD7A829}"="Microsoft Data Link"
"{6b2cf385-e90d-4299-b354-b97feef17c11}"="eFax Messenger - Shell Extension"
"{5F327514-6C5E-4d60-8F16-D07FA08A78ED}"="Auto Update Property Sheet Extension"
"{B84E1428-30A0-443F-8F1C-356E33D65522}"=""
"{1EE88C94-F02E-42DB-B1AF-D3CE7623A520}"=""
"{EBDF1F20-C829-11D1-8233-FF20AF3E97A9}"="TrojanHunter Menu Shell Extension"

**********************************************************************************
HKEY ROOT CLASSIDS:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{B84E1428-30A0-443F-8F1C-356E33D65522}]
@=""

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{B84E1428-30A0-443F-8F1C-356E33D65522}\Implemented Categories]
@=""

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{B84E1428-30A0-443F-8F1C-356E33D65522}\Implemented Categories\{00021492-0000-0000-C000-000000000046}]
@=""

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{B84E1428-30A0-443F-8F1C-356E33D65522}\InprocServer32]
@="C:\\WINNT\\system32\\wyhext.dll"
"ThreadingModel"="Apartment"

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{1EE88C94-F02E-42DB-B1AF-D3CE7623A520}]
@=""

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{1EE88C94-F02E-42DB-B1AF-D3CE7623A520}\Implemented Categories]
@=""

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{1EE88C94-F02E-42DB-B1AF-D3CE7623A520}\Implemented Categories\{00021492-0000-0000-C000-000000000046}]
@=""

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{1EE88C94-F02E-42DB-B1AF-D3CE7623A520}\InprocServer32]
@="C:\\WINNT\\system32\\clnsole.dll"
"ThreadingModel"="Apartment"

**********************************************************************************
Files Found are not all bad files:
Volume in drive C has no label.
Volume Serial Number is BC08-8A22

Directory of C:\WINNT\System32

08/14/2005 06:57 PM 417,792 guard.tmp
08/14/2005 01:11 PM 417,792 clnsole.dll
08/08/2005 05:31 AM 417,792 wfapi.dll
08/01/2005 12:48 PM <DIR> dllcache
04/04/2002 10:25 AM <DIR> Microsoft
3 File(s) 1,253,376 bytes
2 Dir(s) 33,910,367,232 bytes free
here is the log file, i did recieve an error about ms dos sub system, i then did option 5, then an update and then i unzipped 3 files, did the log and i still receievd the error. THanks for the help also!

[therock247uk]

Close any programs you have open since this step requires a reboot.

From the l2mfix folder on your desktop, double click l2mfix.bat and select option #2 for Run Fix by typing 2 and then pressing enter, then press any key to reboot your computer. After a reboot, your desktop and icons will appear, then disappear (this is normal). L2mfix will continue to scan your computer and when it's finished, notepad will open with a log. Copy the contents of that log and paste it back into this thread, along with a new hijackthis log, and we'll clean up what's left.

IMPORTANT: Do NOT run any other files in the l2mfix folder unless you are asked to do so!

[sloppypa]

Thank you for your help, I got some infomation form another Geek to go tech, Thank you for everything!!!!

[therock247uk]

Since this issue appears to be resolved ... this Topic has been closed. Glad we could help.

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