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Building A System for 800$


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SacKings384

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http://www1.us.dell....s=19&l=en&s=dhs

The Dell Dimension E-310 Base System (the one on the far right) is what I want to get. I'm going to get some upgrades i.e the 1gb ram... But what I am wondering is this. I noticed it does not offer me a chance to upgrade the video card as a selection. What I planned on doing was simply taking out my current video card 128 MB ATI Radeon 9600 Series AGP and putting it in that one. But if I can't do that I won't buy the computer. Thank you for your help.

Edited by SacKings384, 24 January 2006 - 01:15 PM.

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I'm sorry m8 but no. You could get a MUCH better system for the cost of that system, if you want help with building one just ask. (PS. If you can tell us if you want a monitor, keyboard, mouse, etc. and a price."
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Ok here's what I want. A good video card, at least 2.5ghz processor, 1 GB memory, a 15-17" flat panel monitor, keyboard, mouse, operating system, (question, if I have a windows XP disc already can't I just use that?), basically everything I need in a computer. Problem is I don't know how to install a motherboard, nor do I know how to put it all together. I think I need a pre-built system. But tell me what you think. The one on Dell, I can get a 17" digital flat panel and all of those qualifications that I just listed (besides the video card) for 774$ after tax and after shipping. So it seems like a good option at this point.

Edited by SacKings384, 24 January 2006 - 01:16 PM.

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Well there is prebuilt and there is prebuilt. dell truly are quite bad unless you are going for the cheaper than dirt range then they are ok, everything else isnt worth the PCB its printed on.

Also switching your old video card is a bad idea, you ideally want a new one so you can get a new motherboard with PCI-E as AGP is the old interface and is for all intents and purposes dead which means that you would essentially have to buy a new PC to upgrade the gfx card to something new.

There are other companies that make prebuilt and custom built computers that are better than dell, ill let one of the US guys explain that stuff there is less choice over there than there is in the UK and Europe for custom builds.
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For prebuilt, you pay a bit of a premium, but in that Dell you can't use your old video card anyways.

http://pcinfinity.ne...Code=PCInfinity

Complete System Athlon 64 939 pin 3500+; 1GB RAM; 40GB; PCI-EXPRESS
$449.00 $449.00
CASE: Broadway 204-4HA-BK ATX Midtower Black
CASE FAN: STANDARD CASE FAN
MEMORY: 1GB 400MHz RAM
MEMORY HEAT SINK: NONE
CPU COOLING FAN: STANDARD COOLING FAN
HARD DRIVE: 160GB 7200RPM SATA 8MB CACHE add $25 (limited time offer) $25.00 $25.00
HARD DRIVE COLLER: NONE
FLOPPY DRIVE: NONE
OPTICAL DRIVE: DVD ROM 16X40 EIDE add $20 $20.00 $20.00
2nd OPTICAL DRIVE: NONE
SOUND: ONBOARD
MODEM: NONE
NETWORKING: networking card 10/100 ONBOARD (click here to upgrade)
KEYBOARD: KEYBOARD 108 KEY ENCHANCED
MOUSE: MOUSE PS2 SCROLL
SPEAKERS: SPEAKERS STANDARD 180WATT add $9 $9.00 $9.00
OPERATING SYSTEM: MS WINDOWS XP HOME add $99 $99.00 $99.00
SOFTWARE: NONE
ANTIVIRUS: NONE
WARRANTY: 3 YEAR WARRANTY add $35 $35.00 $35.00
MONITOR: 17" LCD add $219 $219.00 $219.00
ADVANCED REPLACEMENT: 30 DAYS (FREE)
FIREWIRE CARD: NONE
WIRELESS CARD: NONE
CARD READER: NONE
REBATE: INSTANT REBATE $15 ($15.00) ($15.00)
MOTHERBOARD: Asus A8N-SLI DELUXE 939/nForce4/PCI-E/RAID/2GBE(no video) add $139 $139.00 $139.00
CPU: AMD Athlon 64 processor 3500+* (2.2 GHz) RETAIL

Total: $980.00




That is PREBUILT much better than Dell. I can downgrade the motherboard, take away speakers, lower the warranty, and downgrade the Hard Drive. That would make it $208 cheaper bringing it past that. You wouldn't be $772. Not bad.

Keep in mind, it is prebuilt, faster than the dell, doesn't come junked up with random programs, has bigger harddrive and all. If you take it down a bit, it is still faster than Dell's :) .

Also you cannot use that video card with the E310, but this one (even on downgraded) has PCI-E so you can upgrade to a good video card on the newer slot. :tazz:
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But if I have XP OS do I need to buy another one? Or can I just use the disc I got right now? That would take away 100$ Bringing it down to my original price. And that doesn't even include a video card... There's no way I can afford that.

Edited by SacKings384, 24 January 2006 - 03:26 PM.

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How bout this one? O.S not included

Computer Systems - No OS AMD ATHLON 64 S 754 2800 +; 40GB; 1_G B_ R A M; CDROM; KB/MICE; and much mo $324.00 $324.00
CASE: Broadway 204-4HA-BK ATX Midtower Black
CASE FAN: STANDARD CASE FAN
MEMORY: 1GB 400MHz RAM
MEMORY HEAT SINK: NONE
CPU COOLING FAN: STANDARD COOLING FAN
HARD DRIVE: 40GB EIDE 5400 RPM 2 CACHE
HARD DRIVE COLLER: NONE
FLOPPY DRIVE: NONE
OPTICAL DRIVE: OPTICAL DRIVE - CD ROM52X EIDE
2nd OPTICAL DRIVE: NONE
SOUND: ONBOARD
MODEM: NONE
NETWORKING: networking card 10/100 ONBOARD (click here to upgrade)
KEYBOARD: KEYBOARD 108 KEY ENCHANCED
MOUSE: MOUSE PS2 SCROLL
SPEAKERS: SPEAKERS STANDARD 180WATT add $9 $9.00 $9.00
OPERATING SYSTEM: NONE
SOFTWARE: NONE
ANTIVIRUS: NONE
WARRANTY: 2 YEAR WARRANTY add $15 $15.00 $15.00
MONITOR: 17" LCD add $219 $219.00 $219.00
MOTHERBOARD: PCCHIPSM 871G Athlon64 /Socket754/A/LAN (VIDEO ONBOARD)
ADVANCED REPLACEMENT: 30 DAYS (FREE)
CPU: AMD Athlon 64 processor 3400+* (2.4GHz) (H O T !!!) add $39 $39.00 $39.00
FIREWIRE CARD: NONE
VIDEO CARD (AGP): Palit ATI Radeon 9550 256MB TV/DVI AGP Video Card add $69 $69.00 $69.00
WIRELESS CARD: PCUSA MTG Wireless 802.11g PCI card add $29 $29.00 $29.00
CARD READER: NONE
REBATE: INSTANT REBATE $15 ($15.00) ($15.00)
CPU COOLER: Standard Fan

Comes out to 689$

Edited by SacKings384, 24 January 2006 - 03:32 PM.

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That's fine m8. But the 9550 is very old now. It won't handle newer games well. Also, AGP is a dead technology. You can't upgrade much. Socket 939 is AMD's new socket also. I also think 60 GB HDD is very small, but your choice.
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Sorry double post

Edited by The Colonel, 24 January 2006 - 07:36 PM.

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That's fine m8. But the 9550 is very old now. It won't handle newer games well. Also, AGP is a dead technology. You can't upgrade much. Socket 939 is AMD's new socket also. I also think 60 GB HDD is very small, but your choice.


MM... But my question about the whole operating system hasn't been answered. I looked it up on Google to no avail... Anyone else got some configurations that fit into my 800$ budget?
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about the OS
i had 2computers 1 which i built (XP Home) and 1 which was old(XP Pro(Burnt copy)). the old 1 i wanted to give away so i formatted the hard drive and reloaded XP Home onto it, which was already installed on my new computer it worked fine, so i think you probably could use the same disc
Correct me if im wrong guys!
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goto http://www.digitalst...tervalueamd.asp


then goto the Twister Value (AMD) and click customize now....


it starts out at $712 with the default parts.


Add these parts in...


Memory: 1GB Super Talent at 400MHz (2x 512MB Dual Channel) (Lifetime Warranty)


Video Card: nVIDIA GeForce 6600 128MB (By: Gigabyte) (PCI-Express)


The total comes to $790 without a monitor but comes with a keyboard and mouse combo, 2 year warranty included and free lifetime support included free.

I wouldnt get the video any slower than the one picked, but since your on a strict budget and have to buy a pc this way that is the best you can afford. I recommend the 6800gs if your a gamer but its out of your budget. Thats the best deal you can get already put together from a custom company.
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goto http://www.digitalst...tervalueamd.asp
then goto the Twister Value (AMD) and click customize now....
it starts out at $712 with the default parts.
Add these parts in...
Memory: 1GB Super Talent at 400MHz (2x 512MB Dual Channel) (Lifetime Warranty)
Video Card: nVIDIA GeForce 6600 128MB (By: Gigabyte) (PCI-Express)
The total comes to $790 without a monitor but comes with a keyboard and mouse combo, 2 year warranty included and free lifetime support included free.

I wouldnt get the video any slower than the one picked, but since your on a strict budget and have to buy a pc this way that is the best you can afford. I recommend the 6800gs if your a gamer but its out of your budget. Thats the best deal you can get already put together from a custom company.


But I need a monitor... And that definitely puts me way over my budget.
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But I need a monitor... And that definitely puts me way over my budget.



Thats as good as you can do without getting crappy parts. Now if you knew how to put together your own pc you could get a pc at your budget with a monitor included.


You should be able to find an old used crt monitor from someone for $20.....
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