[N3cr0n0mIV]

Tried that before; no difference.

Edited by N3cr0n0mIV, 31 January 2006 - 11:16 AM.

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it does not drop when explorer.exe is END TASKED...wow,,,this is double-dog danged odd.


Would you mind, download

http://www.sysintern...ssExplorer.html

Run it, go to view amd make sure SHOW FRACTIONAL CPU is checked, then FILE > SAVE

and then attach the text file to your next post?

[gerryf]

it does not drop when explorer.exe is END TASKED...wow,,,this is double-dog danged odd.


Would you mind, download

http://www.sysintern...ssExplorer.html

Run it, go to view amd make sure SHOW FRACTIONAL CPU is checked, then FILE > SAVE

and then attach the text file to your next post?

[N3cr0n0mIV]

Attached...

Attached Files

•  Procexp.txt   1.98KB   118 downloads

[gerryf]

well, crap...look at AIM pumping 98 percent

Under Processes in task manager, end process on aim.exe

problem go away, if so

Shut down AIM, Uninstall AIM, rename the c:\program files\aim (or it is AOL Instant Messenger)

Reinstall AIM

I think you have a corrupt AIM file....you didn't patch it or anything to block ads or anything like that, did you.

[N3cr0n0mIV]

I let AIM run on purpose. The problem isn't just with AIM, it's with Windows Media Player, it's with IE, it's with a lot of simple programs that normally use only afew percent of the CPU, but now for some reason are using 100%.

[N3cr0n0mIV]

So................... I don't think AIM is the problem.

[gerryf]

OK, let's take a look again

Now PLEASE TURN OFF AIM. I want a clean boot

Run process explorer, save log as log1
Load Aim
Do not quit
Save log as log2
Load Windows Media Player
Do not quit
Save log as log3
Now, select AIM in Process Explorer, right click, kill process
Save log as log4 (only Media player is running)


attach all four
The odd thing about this scenario is that you said even though you quit explorer, the problem persists--but AIM is a subprocess of Explorer...it should not persist

[N3cr0n0mIV]

Ok.

Oops, made an error in my post about closing EXPLORER.EXE. I seem to have confused it with IEXPLORE.EXE. But yeah, when I close EXPLORER, AIM does shut down, returning the CPU to normal. I remember doing this when AIM (or other various applications) would freeze my computer. Sorry for the mix-up!

Attached Files

•  log1.TXT   1.92KB   108 downloads
•  log2.TXT   1.98KB   106 downloads
•  log3.TXT   2.05KB   111 downloads
•  log4.TXT   11.61KB   418 downloads

Edited by N3cr0n0mIV, 01 February 2006 - 08:38 AM.

[gerryf]

wow, this is really quite cool (and I do not say that about too many issues)

OK, glad to know the problem goes away when explorer.exe is killed. It does not clear things up, but at least it makes sense.

So, SOME sub processes to Eplorer.exe cause this issue (note the process explorer does not)

What about Internet Explorer? Closing AIM and WMP, load IE and process explorer...does IE consume close to 100 Percent?

[N3cr0n0mIV]

Yes, IE uses close to 100%. Right now I'm using the FireFox browser, and it does just fine. Pretty odd.

[gerryf]

It is pretty odd, but it narrows things down...all three of those programs access the internet and probably use windows files to do it...firefox does not use the same file though, which given its nature does not===wonder if netscape would?

IE and WMP definitely use some of the same files.

Kind of interesting.

OK, in process explorer

VIEW menu, go to LOWER PANE, choose DLL instead of handles

Now, load AIM, then SELECT AIM in the list
File > SAVE AS > AIM.txt

Close AIM

Now, load Windows Media Player, then SELECT Windows Media Player in the list
File > SAVE AS > wmp.txt

Close WMP

Attach both posts...

this will give us the list of all the dynamic link libraries these programs access...perhaps we can see a common DLL and see what is causing the issue

[N3cr0n0mIV]

Ok.

Attached Files

•  AIM.TXT   11.67KB   190 downloads
•  WMP.TXT   8.35KB   101 downloads

[gerryf]

ugh

68 joint files--the ones I highlighted are interesting (see list)......so lets try this first

start > run
services.msc
<enter>

scroll down to INDEXING SERVICE...double click, set the startup type to MANUAL, and press the STOP button.

Reboot.

Try loading AIM

Same or different (I feel like an optometrist giving an eye exam)?

advapi32.dll
clbcatq.dll
comctl32.dll
comres.dll
crypt32.dll
cryptui.dll
ctype.nls
devenum.dll
dnsapi.dll
dsound.dll
gdi32.dll
hnetcfg.dll
imagehlp.dll
index.dat
index.dat
index.dat
iphlpapi.dll
kernel32.dll
locale.nls
midimap.dll
mlang.dll
msacm32.dll
msacm32.drv
msasn1.dll
msdmo.dll
msv1_0.dll
msvcrt.dll
msvfw32.dll
mswsock.dll
netapi32.dll
ntdll.dll
ole32.dll
oleaut32.dll
quartz.dll
rasadhlp.dll
rasapi32.dll
rasman.dll
rpcrt4.dll
rsaenh.dll
rtutils.dll
secur32.dll
sensapi.dll
setupapi.dll
shdocvw.dll
shell32.dll
shlwapi.dll
sortkey.nls
sorttbls.nls
stdole2.tlb
sxs.dll
tapi32.dll
unicode.nls
urlmon.dll
user32.dll
userenv.dll
uxtheme.dll
version.dll
wdmaud.drv
wininet.dll
winmm.dll
winrnr.dll
wintrust.dll
wldap32.dll
ws2_32.dll
ws2help.dll
wshtcpip.dll
wsock32.dll
xpsp2res.dll

[N3cr0n0mIV]

No difference. Indexing Service was already set on 'Manual' before I started/stopped it, if that means anything.

Edited by N3cr0n0mIV, 01 February 2006 - 10:22 AM.

[gerryf]

well, a whole mess of these dlls will be replaced with a system file check, so let's give that whirl

Get your Windows XP cd ready and put it in the CDreader

start > run
sfc /scannow
<enter>


This will take some time, then reboot