[wannabe1]

This is really being strange. Let's put the bootdisk files back on the HDD and then see if we can fine the setup file on the CD.

Boot with the new floppy and at the Options screen, press Shift + F5 for command prompt. At the A:\ prompt, type copy *.* c:. Once the files copy over, see if you can boot back into windows.

Once in windows, Click Start, point to Find, and click "Files or Folders". Type setup.exe in the "Named" box and use the drop-down menu to select the cd-rom drive in the "Look in" box. Click "Find Now". Please make note of where setup.exe is found on the cd, and post the path here for me. (D:\setup.exe or D:\Windows\setup.exe, etc...)

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I done as you instructed.

However I could not see a specific path for set up.

The CD rom drive is E:

Under the section where it locates all to do with setup.exe it has different sections i.e NAME and IN FOLDER it came up with about 20 different SETUPs under the "NAME" section but under the "IN FOLDER" section it came up with about 20 differerent what looked like drivers no SETUP.EXE , example E:powerdvd, etc ????

[ped106]

I done as you instructed.

However I could not see a specific path for set up.

The CD rom drive is E:

Under the section where it locates all to do with setup.exe it has different sections i.e NAME and IN FOLDER it came up with about 20 different SETUPs under the "NAME" section but under the "IN FOLDER" section it came up with about 20 differerent what looked like drivers no SETUP.EXE , example E:powerdvd, etc ????

[wannabe1]

Is there a Windows or Options or Cabs folder with a setup file in it?

[ped106]

no i didnt see one

[wannabe1]

We may end up formatting this thing to fix it... While it's running, why don't you start getting the important files off if you have any on there.

Can you list me the names of the folders you see when you open the E: drive?

[ped106]

folders under e drive (i take it thats the ones on the cd ?) are:
PROLINK TUNE APPLICATIONS
CYBERLINK POWER DVD PLAYER (R2)
link tel
video live mail
power vcr
text bridge classic 2.000
microsoft directx 7.0
microsoft directx media
cheyenne nitware 3
trend micro pc- cillin 98 virus scanner
kb-9805 keyboard driver
adobe acrobat reader 4.0

Edited by ped106, 25 February 2006 - 04:46 AM.

[wannabe1]

Is this the only disk you have for the machine?...the one you have in the drive appears to be the "Application" cd. I see nothing in that list of files that even remotely resembles the OS files. That would explain why we have been unable to copy any system files from it in DOS...they aren't in there. Is the disk labeled? What does the label say?

wannabe1

[peterm]

You guys seem to be having fun.
Can you go to the C:> prompt either from booting up or through windows.
If you go through windows Start>Programs Ms dos prompt.
Should be C:\Windows>cd .. enter
c:>type autoexec.bat enter (you put in the word type)
c:>type config.sys enter
Please list the files here

Are you using any disk manager programs like
Ontrack Disk Manager and later versions of MicroHouse EZ-Drive (or EZ-Max)

Edited by peterm, 25 February 2006 - 09:00 PM.

[ped106]

@ wannabe1 - sorry mate byut thats the only cd rom that came with the pc, it also came with a floppy!
The cd rom is labeld Microsoft Version 6.1 (UK) 9/05/2000 THE RESTORE PACK

The floppy is simply labeld SYSTEM RESTORE PACK

The other CD roms that came with the PC are purley software programs..


@ peterm - tried that and I got error message saying cant find files...

[peterm]

Go to Start>run msconfig ok
then go to the Config.sys tab and the auto exec.bat Tabs and write down what is in there.
Then just cancel out of there.
Once you have windows started does it run ok?

If you have a spare floppy
Start>settings>control panel>add remove programs startup disk and create startup disk

Edited by peterm, 27 February 2006 - 11:49 AM.

[ped106]

Peterm, once I get into windows after all the options and error messages about drive A, I get in ok.

right, under the tab Config.sys this is what was listed:

MENU
MENUITEM = CD,START COMPUTER WITH CD-ROM SUPPORT
MENUITEM = NO CD,START COMPUTER WITHOUT CD-ROM SUPPORT
MENUDEFAULT = CD,30
MENU CULOR = 7.0
(CD)
DEVICE = HIMEM.SYS /TESTMEM: OFF
DEVICE = OAKCDROM.SYS /D:MSCD001
DEVICE = BTDOSM.SYS
DEVICE = FLASHPT.SYS
DEVICE=BTCDROM.SYS /D:MSCDOO1.
DEVICE=ASPI2DOS.SYS
DEVICE=ASPI8DOS.SYS
DEVICE=ASPI4DOS.SYS
DEVICEASPI8U2.SYS
DEVICE=ASPICD.SYS /DMSC000/

(NOCD)
DEVICE=HIMEM.SYS / TESTMEM.OFF
(HELP)
DEVICE=HIMEM.SYS /TESTMEM.OFF
(COMMON)
FILES=10
BUFFERS=10
DOS=HIGH,UMB
STACKS=9,256
DEVICEHIGH=RAMDRIVE:SYS /E 2048
LASTDRIVE=2.

AUTOEXEC.BAT (TAB) LIST AS FOLLOWS:

@ECHO OFF
set EXPAND=YES
SET DIRCMD= /O:N
set LgldRV=27*26 Z 25Y 24 X 23W 22 V 21 U 20 T 19 S 18 R 17 Q 16 P 15
set LglDrv=%LglDrv% O 14 N 13 M 12 L 11 K 10 J 9 I 8 H 7 G 6 F 5 E 4 D 3 C
cls
Call setramd.bat%LglDrv%
set temp=C:\
set tmp=C:\
path =%RAMD%:\;a:\;%CDROM%: \
copy command.com%ramd%:\>NUL
set extract.exe%RAMD%:\command.com
copy extract.exe%RAMD%:\>NUL
copy readme.txt%RAMD%:\>NUL
:ERROR
IF EXIST ebd.cab GOTO EXT
echo PLEASE INSERT WINDOWS98 STARTUP DISK 2
echo
pause
GOTO ERROR.
:EXT
%ramd%:\EXTRACT /y/e/l%RAMD%:ebd.cab>NUL
echo The diagnostics tools were successfully loaded to drive
%RAMD%
ECHO
IF"%config%"=="NOCD" GOTO QUIT
IF"%config%"=="HELP" GOTO HELP
LH% ramd%: \MSCDEX.EXE /D:MSCD001 /L:%CDROM%
echo
GOTO QUIT
:HELP
cls
call help.bat
echo Your copmputer will now restart and the startup menu will appear.
echo.
echo.
echo.
echo.
echo.
echo.
echo.
echo.
echo.
echo.
restart.com
GOTO QUIT
:QUIT
echo To get help, type HELP and press ENTER
echo.
rem clean up environment variables
set CDROM=
set LglDrv=


I have created a startup disk as instructed on a new floppy

[peterm]

Let me read back through to see if Wannabe1 had you disable the auto exec.bat & the config.sys.
What type of computer is this eg Gateway,HP, Dell etc
Also is this windows 98 or 98se
Your auto exec is telling your cd to load which is odd for 98

Before we disable your autoexec & your configsys lets see if we can find them.
In windows go to the dos prompt
C:\windows>cd command enter
C:\windows\command>cd ebd enter
C:\windows\command\ebd>dir/p enter
Can you see a listing of autoexec.bat and of config.sys?
also see if there there are 2 files called auto.bak and config.bak

Edited by peterm, 27 February 2006 - 05:35 PM.

[ped106]

Hi Peterm

the computer is called Tiny and its running windows 98se

I tried what you told me but when I got to C:\windows\command>cd ebd
it told me it was invalid entry.

[peterm]

ok Start > run msconfig ok
on the genral tab click selective startup
un tick process config.sys and auto exec.bat click ok
restart

[ped106]

peterm,

done as you asked and un checked config.sys and autoexec.bat and restarted.

All ok , went staright into windows with no error messages or options.

However when I shutdown a message popped up reading

" rnaapp program has preformed an illegal operation and will be shut down.

what does this mean?