[tomgreen]

I bought Ati radeon 9600 excalibur 128 MB, 128bit..... I thought I wont have problems with playing new games, doing with grapfics..... I was wrong... The games are not working good (breaking) there's no way to stop this even if details are low .... so I check on the web the pictures of my card and they're seems different... I think they sold me 9500 or 9550 with new bios...You can check the picture and (the same card). I bought it in a shop (new)... Al informations I can give you is FCC: "ML-1 94V-0" 0422; s/n H040706555 and number 4R8KD242 ..... That's all

How do I know what card I have?

Please me

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my friend... how can i break this to you?

9600 series isnt all that great. actually. i have a 9600aiw in one of my diy and its pretty awesome. but performance wise it jes doesnt compare to those higher end cards.

if your having problems with graphics distortion (like a lot of radeon 9xxx users) then im going to have to tell you that it may not be the card but your rig setup. (i.e. lack of power to the gpu or the most common problem, overheating).

nonetheless if you're convinced that you may have gotten scammed for a card that performs less efficiently one very simple way to check is thru ure graphics driver. to do this

go to the control panel
go to display settings
click on the "advanced" tab
i believe the driver name is listed under the "general" or "adapter" tab. there may be a subtab that reads "driver". i cant really remember off the top of my head right now

(i am at a university campus so i cant really verify it thanks to the setting restrictions).

basically whatever driver is listed there i.e. "catalyst driver 4.05 for ati radeon 9600" is the type of card you have.

to double check. go to the ati website and download the ati radeon family driver/software bundle package. go to the control panel and uninstall the ati drivers and software.

reboot your computer, and install the setup file you downloaded from the ati website. prior to installation, the software will automatically detect your gfx card, and install the right drivers accordingly. if you dont catch the name of the card type somewhere along the installation go back to the display settings, properties, advanced, and look up the driver name again.

if you're trying to play newer games that require heavy 3d acceleration such as doom 3, or cs: source, then the problems you're getting with your card is nothing less than expected.

you get what you paid for. my hopes for you is that your card is at least a 9600pro. if it isnt, see if you can return it to the vendor you got it from and move a couple notches up to a 9800pro.

however just upgrading your gfx card may not be enough. you also have to consider ram and processor speed/type. if you're running a 1.2ghz celeron processor and 128mb of ram, on win xp with you're gfx card, trying to play doom 3 then bloody [bleep], just pick up your computer and throw it out the window. ^_^

actually, i dont even think you'd have enough free resources to start doom 3. so yes before you go off and buy a new card (which may not be the problem) let us know your ram speed, o/s, processor speed/type. also make sure you have the latest version of directx which is included in windows update if you have winxP

fill us in and im sure someone here from gtg would be more than happy to help. hope i was of some help to ya.
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Kalian

[Kalian]

my friend... how can i break this to you?

9600 series isnt all that great. actually. i have a 9600aiw in one of my diy and its pretty awesome. but performance wise it jes doesnt compare to those higher end cards.

if your having problems with graphics distortion (like a lot of radeon 9xxx users) then im going to have to tell you that it may not be the card but your rig setup. (i.e. lack of power to the gpu or the most common problem, overheating).

nonetheless if you're convinced that you may have gotten scammed for a card that performs less efficiently one very simple way to check is thru ure graphics driver. to do this

go to the control panel
go to display settings
click on the "advanced" tab
i believe the driver name is listed under the "general" or "adapter" tab. there may be a subtab that reads "driver". i cant really remember off the top of my head right now

(i am at a university campus so i cant really verify it thanks to the setting restrictions).

basically whatever driver is listed there i.e. "catalyst driver 4.05 for ati radeon 9600" is the type of card you have.

to double check. go to the ati website and download the ati radeon family driver/software bundle package. go to the control panel and uninstall the ati drivers and software.

reboot your computer, and install the setup file you downloaded from the ati website. prior to installation, the software will automatically detect your gfx card, and install the right drivers accordingly. if you dont catch the name of the card type somewhere along the installation go back to the display settings, properties, advanced, and look up the driver name again.

if you're trying to play newer games that require heavy 3d acceleration such as doom 3, or cs: source, then the problems you're getting with your card is nothing less than expected.

you get what you paid for. my hopes for you is that your card is at least a 9600pro. if it isnt, see if you can return it to the vendor you got it from and move a couple notches up to a 9800pro.

however just upgrading your gfx card may not be enough. you also have to consider ram and processor speed/type. if you're running a 1.2ghz celeron processor and 128mb of ram, on win xp with you're gfx card, trying to play doom 3 then bloody [bleep], just pick up your computer and throw it out the window. ^_^

actually, i dont even think you'd have enough free resources to start doom 3. so yes before you go off and buy a new card (which may not be the problem) let us know your ram speed, o/s, processor speed/type. also make sure you have the latest version of directx which is included in windows update if you have winxP

fill us in and im sure someone here from gtg would be more than happy to help. hope i was of some help to ya.
gotta go
class time
Kalian

[tomgreen]

Thanks for your explanation

Computer properties: AMD Athlon 2500 XP (overclocked to 2200 MHz), DDR 512 MB/ 400 MHz

I have the latest version of Direct x

Look I have tried all this things you said many times before....but when I had run 3dMark 2003 I got only about 5 points more

There is another problem I found.... I think I know why my card is breaking.... Look there are 3 silver capacitors together.... So when I'm playing games one capacitor becomes very hot ( you can't hold it ). From my old experiences: this is happerning when the card is oveclocked... so If they have changed the bios a card is overclocked forever, you are angry because you mean that you bought bad stuff again If this is true, how to prove it???

Thanks for your help (again)

[Kalian]

what games are you trying to play?

what exactly is the exact model name of the card? i.e. is it a 9600pro? aiw? se?

you're ram speed seems fine. i recommend you try and make sure you run the least amount of processes to make youre gaming experience all the much smoother. check for adaware and viruses, and decrease the amount of stand by processes (quick launch icons) for it all uses up memory.

also go into the display settings, advanced... set your bars to the far left of the performance/quality bars. do this for open gl, and 3d, mode and before you switch tabs between the 2 make sure you click apply, so the settings dont get canceled out when you switch between tabs.

if you feel the card is running too hot, i suggest you use an aftermarket heatsink fan. (if you'd like one i have an extra one id be willing to sell to you ^_^). rev.3 arctic cooling is pretty good and fairly priced.

if you know what you're doing, and you do all of the above, and ure still having problems, then i guess we can conclude that your card just isnt good enough for your gaming needs. then id recommend to you a 9800pro or a 6600gt which are both cards considered a notch up, from what you have now.

hope that that is of some help to you
Kalian

[gerryf]

Here is a review of your card for comparison's sake.

http://www.hardavenu...9600vivo1.shtml

It would appear to be based on the 9600se, with slightly faster clock above the standard SE, but still a far cry from the The 9600 xt or regular 9600

It has a 64-bit memory interface rather than a 128-bit memory interfaceyou can expect a bottleneck when enabling features like Anti-Aliasing.

The core engine clock speed is set at 325MHz, rather than 400MHz or 500MHz for the 9600 and 9600xt.

So, not a full blown 9600---but you did not buy a full-blown 9600

[tomgreen]

Kalian: I had play Doom 3, Half-life 2, Xpand rally, toca race driver 2, far cry.....everything were breaking

I tried moving slider on left ( best performance )... It was better , but breaking didn't stop at all

couple days ago I bought cooling sistem- maybe a little better but still sux.

this card is: Ati radeon 9600 excalibur (classic pack ) with nothing like SE, pro..... . I dont't know what mean's classic pack.

gerryf Yes it is possible that isn't full blown 9600... When I run ATItool I can see there Core speed (324 MHz, not 325) an there is RAM speed (202,3 MHz) is this good? If I try overclock it for 1 MHz it becomes unstable..

On a box there is text with specifications: interface 128 bit, 128/256MB, agp 8x and other [bleep]

For both of you: look I paid for this one http://nakupi.net/bu...&productId=2352 and It seems they have srew me A half year ago It costs about 133 euros.

Between vivo 4R8KB242 and my 4R8KD242 are only "B" and "D" different....

Is it possible that they sent me wrong card?

Thanks