[RjBass]

It looks like it may be real that the U.S. may ban several hard drive import manufacturers including Western Digital, Seagate and others.

See the full story here.

http://arstechnica.c...ar-imports.html

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I find one small problem with someones research. Dell does not make Hard drives they build computers.

I do not like it how this patient was made in issued 2003 and probably widely used technology before that.

[anzenketh]

I find one small problem with someones research. Dell does not make Hard drives they build computers.

I do not like it how this patient was made in issued 2003 and probably widely used technology before that.

[Major Payne]

I find one small problem with someones research. Dell does not make Hard drives they build computers.

I do not like it how this patient was made in issued 2003 and probably widely used technology before that.

Didn't say Dell made HDs:

All five companies either manufacture drives that use "dissipative ceramic bonding tips," or sell products that use such hard drives.

I expect the US Court of Appeals to protect these companies as it has before. Would like to see some compensation to the patent holders though as it's not their fault their patent was used without their permission/license. It's not going to be much of an impact to ban these HDs as current ones in US will be sold and used anyway. It's all about money and our system will protect those who have against those who have not (my opinion only).

Ron

[anzenketh]

At least it is not a software patient though.

I wonder if this patent stands up to the original requirements to become one.

EDIT: Changed wording.

Edited by tuxmaster, 15 October 2007 - 01:59 PM.

[sari]

tuxmaster, it's patent infringement, not patient infringement. A patient is someone being treated by a doctor. A patent is what people get to protect their inventions. Just thought I'd clarify that, as it made your responses confusing.

[jaxisland]

Grammer
Now its official

[Major Payne]

Grammer

Now you're gonna get hit for incorrect spelling! Grammer refers to this. I'm not even gonna attempt to correct you as I know what you intended and I'm not here to correct spelling or grammar.



Ron

Edited by Major Payne, 15 October 2007 - 12:41 PM.

[RjBass]

What's the point of correcting spelling and grammar on the internet?

I mean I can see it when the post is just all kinds of messed up, but for small general mistakes, who cares?

People who correct others spelling and grammar mistakes on the internet either really need to get a life or find a new hobby.

Edited by RjBass, 16 October 2007 - 03:36 PM.

[Troy]

I care - it's nice to have it right. Why would it be any different correcting spelling and grammar on the internet, as opposed to (for example) a university paper? It's not any different, it's all still spelling and grammar. And with all due respect, it has turned this thread into a good laugh

[RjBass]

It is a funny thread, no doubt.

I just hardly consider a side thread like this nearly as important as say a term paper or thesis.

I can even see proper spelling and grammar being needed on blog post and news pages, but in a simple message forum, i don't think it needs to be so serious.

My spelling and grammar are horrible, and always have been. And when people point that out for me, and correct it for me, i point them to my rear end. I personally don't care how my spelling and grammar is on here or on any of the other 15 message forums I participate in. I'm not here to impress anybody, and i certainly didn't come here for an English lesson. I came to get some help with some computer issues and to shoot the breeze with some like minded people.

Now that being said, please correct me, as I haven't pointed to my rear end in days, and I have to say I'm rather fond of it.

[Tal]

Well, I think that just like you'd keep your grammar organized in an essay you'd write for school, you should keep your posts organized, spell checked and grammatic. I am not a grammar freak; but I myself do like to see posts written in a grammatic way. Heck, if I can write grammatically more-or-less with English not being my native tongue, you can too!

[frantique]

RjBass, we're not interested in correcting member's grammar or spelling - we, do however, like our staff to express themselves clearly and correctly. We appreciate that some of our staff do not speak English as their first language and we encourage and help them in their expression of this language.

In some ways grammar and spelling have become a bit of an in-joke amongst staff, which is probably why your thread was somewhat hijacked

That is a good article and it will be interesting to see what comes out of the investigation. Also, I found that whole site very interesting.

[anzenketh]

Rjbass,

It is ok as you may see in other threads I have actually asked them to keep a eye on my English writing skills for me. I asked them to PM me though to keep the threads tightly. Correct English is important to me here. For one it does not mess up the translators. For another what is on the net stays on the net. I rather have a good impression then a bad one. I already have too many threads to where I have been torn to pieces in shame. So I rather work on my faults, and be aware when I make a mistake so I can fix it before the archives do. I am sure a lot of the other regular posters would agree. I used to not care but I have found that it makes a difference.

Edited by tuxmaster, 17 October 2007 - 01:01 AM.

[sari]

Well, since it's my fault this thread was hijacked, let me jump in again. I have a reputation on this board for being a stickler about grammar and spelling, and with reason. From a staff standpoint, we have an obligation to represent this board in a professional manner. Since ALL of our communication is in writing, it makes it doubly important that what we write is clear and concise. We are giving instructions to people on how to fix or clean their computers. Poorly written instructions, the use of the wrong word, and a lack of clarity could have disastrous results if it leads to one of our members performing a task incorrectly and damaging their computer.

On the flip side, I've seen people start threads asking for help, and their post is so grammatically incorrect and poorly spelled (or uses chatspeak - shudder) that I can't even figure out what they're asking. It can take a tremendous effort sometimes to get the correct information in those cases. I know when it's a non-native English speaker; I can tell by sentence structure a lot of the time. They are given a lot of slack, because I wouldn't be able to post in a foreign language. The ones that drive me crazy are the ones who do this:

"dis morning I turned on my puter and it mad e dis beep and then I got a blue screne n then it resarded and it let me log on n then i downloded sum torrents n now its slow and i gettin popupsp and I rlly nede it 4 scool cuz I hav a papeer i hav to rite and its my dads puter and whatdo I do becuz its not working and this sight said your going to help me what do i do pleez!"

I'm sorry, but first impressions are important, and on a forum, the only way to make that impression is through your posts. That's why grammar and spelling are more important, not less important, on the internet.

*sari steps down off her soapbox.

[RjBass]

No worries people.

On most of the boards that I regularly participate on, I am known as something of a smart @lec I just saw the thread hijacked, and my first instinct was to hijack the hijackers.

I'm really not worried about who corrects spelling and grammar, I think my point was more to make sure you all knew that I will be the worst when it comes to spelling and grammar on this site, especially from a guy who only speaks English and supposedly graduated from collage.

In all fairness though, I am learning Portuguese as a second language, and I am finding it to be much easier to learn then all those years of learning English. Go figure.