Thank you again for your detailed reply Donna..
You have given me things to think about..
May take me while to absorb what you say ..so I may not reply again until later / tomorrow depending where we are based.
unless my mind focus's on what you say ..within the next hour...
I am in the U.K...I can see you are in the USA time zone,
Sometimes my mind is so full up ..with different things and distractions its not always easy to know how I will act.. 
I think more than likely I will go along with what you propose. and I will let you know when I have decided.
one thing that I am not fully clear on, is that after the Scan I did...with FRST... is why you suggest that you could not see any
malware at all...I assume then thats only in terms of a very basic scan...for maybe certain well known malware..and that other AV programs or MBAM... will have to do a much detailed scan..inc root directories etc !
You also have a good day. Hope to reply later.
Best regards
Dowsp
After reviewing your logs, I see no malware at all.
Further added replies below....
I appreciate and value your Mission to educate the unaware public in the various things that you mention.
and being one of the public, thank you for it.
One of the other things that I refer to thou is also concerns about techology by the authorities or actual creators of
the software monitoring us more and more from Big brother...Government etc.
There suggestions by certain people that they put all sorts of high tech stuff in software or Electronic equipment that does so...such as for eg cameras in TVs and Microphones in certain items, even toasters and Smart meters for electric meter ;.and also things in the AV or other software we use in our computers..
If so my thoughts wee that maybe the newer more updated browsers, or operating systems and other types of software , may monitor us even more so..
where as OLD Browser versions or software May not do...But at the same time, I understand that they are vulnerable in other ways.
Hopefully its not as bad as some may suggest..and that the more modern versions are still ok..
I read an article that I think it was Norton AV... was monioring its users computers..in ways the public were not aware.
and I beleive anything to do with google is ! as they are connected to the CIA / NSA..
In the end as yu mentioned about the Older browser versions... yes they are vulnerable..but may not have been updated to
have any further more concerning hidden monitoring type bugs in them..
and yes that was also the reason that I did not have certain protection was because.. the companies old versions no longer are downloadable or will work without any updates.. if say they would not operate with Windows XP for eg..
so in that case there was no point in attempting to protect ones machine with AV or maybe other types of firewalls.
If somehow you suggest and think that you dont believe my problem is from some virus or malware..then I agree I would be VERY Lucky..
On the laptop that I am using in ref to this thread... Overall I do try to just use it relatively carefully...as I have learned certain things to
avoid over the years... and maybe in somethings, on websites have improved...
but I did mainly want to try to keep it clean from certain types of sites..
but now I have the mouse and date probem on my older laptop... I am having to use this present one more.. and thats why I think
I havenow ran into a probem..
but the problem has only recently occurred say in the last month...
On some websites... maybe even doing emails...It seems that at times maybe I have a keyboard stroke logger I think its
called...so that maybe one of my problems and I assume thats from malware..
In some or maybe many cases its hard to have any alternative if you want to do certain things..
The only safe way is not to use it at all..but that is not what we want.
I agree with your concern. That is why I am on a mission to educate those who are clueless to the dangers to be found in cyber space. I want to prevent them from being the next victim of someone who has nothing better to do than sit around coding malware to victimize the good people of the world and taking from them their life savings for personal financial benefit. I see everyday how modern technology takes advantage of the uneducated. I always wondered how the bad guy would feel if their mother or grandmother was to become infected with a backdoor trojan and personal data was harvested so as to access bank accounts, credit cards whatever.
I note what you say !
That's the problem with using Windows XP. There is no built in AV. Windows 8/8.1 and Windows 10 do have built in AV's. The windows firewall in XP only protects you from incoming traffic so if anything was to get past it there is no way to prevent the malware from spreading by outgoing traffic. And, since Windows XP is no longer receiving security updates, the firewall is useless. There is a handful of software vendors that is providing support for Windows XP and tomorrow there will be less.
Avira Free quit supporting Windows XP over a year ago. See here.
It seems fortunate that they do still offer some updates..
Would it still be possible to just update the SP3 without updating the browser ? and maybe updating the browser at another time
if one considers doing so at a later time.. ?
I assume that the SP3 is seperated from IE8..and would allow me to use MBAM ..and still have IE6 installed..
BUT I would be using Firefox browser to later work with or do any downloads..at the time of downloading and installing MBAM..
and later using the software and then browsing the Internet..
After reviewing your logs, I see no malware at all. You obviously are very well disciplined as to where you go on the internet and a safe computer user to not be infected on a Windows XP that is this outdated. The reason you can not get MBAM to run is because you have to have SP3 installed. The developers find it a waste of time to protect a system that is vulnerable though they understand that many still prefer XP so they continue to support the OS only if it is at SP3 IE8. So bottom line is that if you want MBAM to run you will need to update to SP3 and even if you use it or not, I would certainly update to IE8.
Thanks for informing me of this.. I was not aware ...
Processor: AMD Turion 64 Mobile Technology MK-36
If you do decide to install SP3 you will need to install the patch for AMD processors prior to downloading and installing SP3 which you can find here > Windows XP SP3.
IE8 should be offered thereafter through windows updates. I would let it update on it's own though you can click the Windows Update button to check for more.
I more or less think I understand, other than my prior query again above in ref to could I maybe still do more or less as you suggest , such as update to SP3 but maybe keep IE6 for the time being..
IE8 should be offered thereafter through windows updates. I would let it update on it's own though you can click the Windows Update button to check for more.
And if I may be completely honest with you, if you do not choose to update your system to SP3 and IE8 there is not much I can do to help you. That is the reason why you are having all the trouble you are having.
Edited by dowsp, 18 September 2017 - 03:16 AM.
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