[the70sin2005]

OK, i bought many parts for this computer - here is the list: Matsonic MOBO MODEL-MS9127C, P4 CPU 533MHZ, 512 MB ddr333 RAM, CD-R CD-RW CD-ROM, 3 fans, ATI radeon 9555, floppy drive, western digital HD, ATX case + 500 watt psu, and a Modem. i followed everything that the MOBO manual said i conneced evrything that there was to connect everything is brand new- i go to start up my new comp. all excited n stuff and all the fans come on and the led light in front comes on (not sure if its supposed to be there are 2 led lights ones green ones red0 and only the red one comes on, then i look up at the screen and i see nothing! the little light blinking on the monitor and that is it! i did not hear any beeping or any thing so im clueless to what it is............. can you help me pls!

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When this happens( the bios screen does not come up first) i first try another power supply to see if it fixes the problem. i have had to fix 10 PS's in the last six months on computer barebones kits because they had cheap PS's in them. Make sure the PS's voltage switch is at 115 volt and NOT on 230volt( a lot of PS's do not even have this switch).

The next thing is to disconnect most of the hardware from the motherboard. Leave only the CPU, CPU fan, memory,hard drive, and video card hooked up. Of course have a monitor and keyboard and mouse hooked up. Listen for a single beep and see if the bios screen comes up. If no beep is heard and no bios on screen, the next thing is to replace the memory( or have it tested). Did the CPU fan come on? If it did NOT the motherboard may be bad. make sure the CPU was inserted correctly and you put the thermal compound between the CP and the heatsink. I put a BB sized drop of compound on the cpu for good coverage. If you still get nothing the motherboard or CPU may need replacing.

When you get a flashing curser in the top left corner, you should have seen the BIOS screen come up first. The BIOS screen tells you what processor, memory, and hardware in IDE channels it see's before it tries booting.

If you did get a bios screen then the flashing curser with the above setup it is time to hook up the rest of the hardware one at a time, rebooting between each hookup to see if anything stops the process. If nothing does you may have to reset your bios to boot from the floppy drive first and see if a win 98 boot floppy will get you to the "A" prompt. If it will do this, reboot and get back into the bios and reset it so it will boot from the cdrom drive first. Before you shut down, open the cdrom drive tray and put your windows CD in, then shut the puter down and restart it. It should start loading windows.

Let us know exactly what happens so we can determine where to go next.

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[SRX660]

When this happens( the bios screen does not come up first) i first try another power supply to see if it fixes the problem. i have had to fix 10 PS's in the last six months on computer barebones kits because they had cheap PS's in them. Make sure the PS's voltage switch is at 115 volt and NOT on 230volt( a lot of PS's do not even have this switch).

The next thing is to disconnect most of the hardware from the motherboard. Leave only the CPU, CPU fan, memory,hard drive, and video card hooked up. Of course have a monitor and keyboard and mouse hooked up. Listen for a single beep and see if the bios screen comes up. If no beep is heard and no bios on screen, the next thing is to replace the memory( or have it tested). Did the CPU fan come on? If it did NOT the motherboard may be bad. make sure the CPU was inserted correctly and you put the thermal compound between the CP and the heatsink. I put a BB sized drop of compound on the cpu for good coverage. If you still get nothing the motherboard or CPU may need replacing.

When you get a flashing curser in the top left corner, you should have seen the BIOS screen come up first. The BIOS screen tells you what processor, memory, and hardware in IDE channels it see's before it tries booting.

If you did get a bios screen then the flashing curser with the above setup it is time to hook up the rest of the hardware one at a time, rebooting between each hookup to see if anything stops the process. If nothing does you may have to reset your bios to boot from the floppy drive first and see if a win 98 boot floppy will get you to the "A" prompt. If it will do this, reboot and get back into the bios and reset it so it will boot from the cdrom drive first. Before you shut down, open the cdrom drive tray and put your windows CD in, then shut the puter down and restart it. It should start loading windows.

Let us know exactly what happens so we can determine where to go next.

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[the70sin2005]

umm ok well ill try all that when i get home thnx ill reply what happens!

[dsenette]

i can't tell from the pictures of the board that i found...does it have an integrated graphics controller?

[the70sin2005]

dont yhink so, there is no moniter output from the motherboard HAVE to have an agp card which i do and its new....... also the power supply is fine all the fans turn on so its not the mobo. also i unplugged evrything but the processor and no beeps..... one more thing i found out is that if the ide ribbons are plugged in the light is on but then wheni take them out the light turns off? dont know what that is all about!... but yeah i took it mostly apart and put it back together and still nothing- its like there is no bios... but there is! so im not sure what is wrong do you think if i take it to geek squad at best buy they can fix it ?

[the70sin2005]

i tried many things and getting tired of it.... also i was wondering where or how to test the memory.

[the70sin2005]

is some one gonna help me? PLS.....

[SRX660]

I do understand where your coming from. There was so many times i was frustrated at computers i was ready to chuck everything in the trash and find a new hobby. Nowadays i have so many computers and parts around me i can test most everything. See if you have any friends that can help you test parts. Another computer that uses the same memory would tell you if the memory has problems. From what it sounds like your motherboard is bad. It sounds like trying anything i said doesnt make the puter do anything different. If so, then it is time to try replacing the motherboard. You should be able to return the MB and/or processor for replacement parts if you had just bought it. Most shops warranty them for a month or so.

Do the fans stay running? Does this computer have a small speaker inside that is plugged into the Mb so you can hear the beeps? Are you saying the red light comes on when the cd drive is plugged in? That is saying there is a problem there. I did have a problem once when a puter would'nt boot up although everything seemd to work. I will never know but i think static elec had arced to the Mb when i was working on it in the family den. It killed the Mb and a replacement worked the first time i put it together.

On the bestbuys geek squad, i have not had any luck with these people. Most i have talked to do nothing more than replace parts until it works. They even have build books with steps to take to diagnose problems. there has only been one person on the geek squad that i have met that impressed me. Of course he was a supervisor. Perhaps other locations have better help, but the 3 i have visited in my area i would not take my puters there. Most seem more like salesmen than repairmen.

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[the70sin2005]

ok well ill c bout getting a new mobo. i got it of ebay for like 20 bucks so its not a big deal it was new in the box tho so i knew nothing was wrong with it when i got it. and yeah i did put it together in my family room b 4 but how do you kno if it was an electric shock that did it. cause i didnt realize it if it did happen i mean i kept it in the anti static bag most the tim b sides the few times i had to pull it out! so i dunno but i guess ill jus buy a new one or c if the person who sold it will replace it thnx!

[the70sin2005]

does ne one know of any good motherboards that will take a P4 533mhz fsb 478 pin cpu and ddr333 ram one last thing 8x agp slot!?

[SRX660]

Years ago i bought Mb's off Ebay for builds. Out of 5 that i bought 2 would not even boot up, 1 was damaged in that the onboard graphics didnt work and 2 boards i had no problems with. By the time all the trouble of sending them back and getting refunds( thru paypal) or replacements, i just decided it was not worth the hassle and started buying new MB's. One person refused to give me my money back even after i sent him the mb back. I had no choice but to give him a bad feedback. I even had a hassle getting his bad feedback of me off. Numerous emails to Ebay finally got that settled. I seldom buy any hardware from Ebay anymore. I just don't have the time to go looking for days and then get outbid at the last minute just to get a good deal. Good thing about buying new parts is replacement is almost automatic when a part is bad. Out of a 100 or so hardware buys i have recieved only 2 bad parts and i either got a replacement or money returned immediately. One of the parts was a refurbished graphics card from the newegg refurb section and they could only send my money back for that.

There are a number of good Mb's on newegg.com and tigerdirect.com that would fit your hardware for around $45. I have had good luck with gigabyte, MSI, and even ECS. I dont like the SIS chipset boards but the Via or Intel boards work fine.

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[the70sin2005]

thanks a ton! yeah i decided first i would take it to a computer shop that my dad is freinds with case he works by them and c what they say, then if it tis bad then ill hust go to a store and buy a new or ill try newegg or the others in the list above but thanx for the help- i plan on playing call of duty II and NFSU most wanted with many other good games but yeah thanx for every thing!