[qwertyabcdefg]

We all know the secondary reason for security. Its the multimedia frenzy going on right now. Microsoft I bet you 20 dollars is talking to sony and others about media security. Maybe no one else sees this one coming, but microsoft is gonna have all kinds of 3rd party kernel level software to stop backup copies and such to prevent what they think is piracy. Microsoft simply wants to make more money by stopping users from copying anything that could be copyrighted. Of course if microsoft makes this I guess it wont work anyways until they patch it. Just picture sony rootkit, but not even possible to detect. Then instead of sony add all the industries trying to prevent legitimate backup copies.

Edited by qwertyabcdefg, 14 February 2006 - 03:52 AM.

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ahh, TCPA. the biggest reason i switched to linux. yes, new sony music cd's litterally "take over control" of your computer if you are running windows vista. not that i'm blatantly avoiding copy protection here, (i know talk of that sort is not allowed) but i am restating the fact that my computer is MY PROPERTY and i should be able to do as a please with it, and it should not be controlled by sony's software. also those rootkits are a threat to your security, and multiple lawsuits against sony have been won, because that software does in fact make your computer more vulerable to hackers, cause thats what hackers use to controll your computer, having it do what THEY want, not you, and also hiding files and information from you, so they could be doing stuff without you knowing. just a load of fricken crap.

[Thebinaryman]

ahh, TCPA. the biggest reason i switched to linux. yes, new sony music cd's litterally "take over control" of your computer if you are running windows vista. not that i'm blatantly avoiding copy protection here, (i know talk of that sort is not allowed) but i am restating the fact that my computer is MY PROPERTY and i should be able to do as a please with it, and it should not be controlled by sony's software. also those rootkits are a threat to your security, and multiple lawsuits against sony have been won, because that software does in fact make your computer more vulerable to hackers, cause thats what hackers use to controll your computer, having it do what THEY want, not you, and also hiding files and information from you, so they could be doing stuff without you knowing. just a load of fricken crap.

[warriorscot]

Blatant and utterly inaccurate prophesising, what has the sony rootkit which is old news have to do with vista. Nothing at all its not out rootkits for DRM are being made illegal in the US where Vista is made so what does it matter point is moot your just reading something and trying to sound clever by imitating it you dont know any facts.

[gerryf]

It has everything to do with Vista---Vista is loaded with DRM protections at the kernal level that will prevent you from watching movies, listening to music, etc

[Thebinaryman]

with the protected mode and unprotected mode: (for example) you would not be allowed to use unsigned software such as a free internet download manager, at the same time as watching a movie using wmp, and you would not be allowed to listen to music with wmp, while running an unprotected text editor to type your homework. What the...? as if the text editor would be something "illegal"!?!?! from what i've heard most commercial software will be digitally signed, and most freeware stuff wont.

[warriorscot]

I was meaning the original posters comments on rootkits and it wasnt vista related and was postulation it didnt have anything directly related to vista mentioned just about rootkits in vista which wont be part of any DRM as they are soon to be banned, and digital signing may never see the light of day yet especially if the EU have there way they have had a great deal of success against MS and many of the monoply US based technology companies, technically under EU law many of the DRM features in vista are illegal and many DRM features in general are illegal in one way or another, its all dependant on how long MS can hold out against legislation which previously was a long time but we have seen the armour start to chink i dont think it will last too long if they even incorporate it all, they will more than likely moderate there DRM desires i dont mind DRM as long as it doesnt interfere and most people are the same but if its as invasive as they plan it will drastically effect sales.

You know im getting kinda crabby latley, must be the stress, bloomin uni i was never this wiggy at school.

Edited by warriorscot, 21 February 2006 - 04:34 PM.

[Thebinaryman]

yeah, i see what you mean. i hope for my friends that it isnt more "DRM-ish" than winxp

microsoft has already lost one customer for good.

[warriorscot]

DRM isnt a real feature of WinXP its mostly the software you choose that determines that and the media you download. You can have a full HD of illegal music and movies and winxp wont bat an eye lid, and you can crack a game and xp wont bother as long as you do it properly, it is a bit lax in DRM it relies more on other apps to take care of drm.