Edited by dlmgg, 20 March 2006 - 02:15 PM.
PC not booting up
#16
Posted 20 March 2006 - 08:34 AM
#17
Posted 20 March 2006 - 05:15 PM
He needs to know the brand & model # of the new PSU you bought. You can find that on the sticker.
Also, see if you can find the brand & model # of your motherboard. This will help him to see what kind of connections your motherboard has and requires from the PSU. That info will most likely be somewhere on the green area of your motherboard.
If you can't find it, try to push the wires to the side and take a wide-angle picture of your motherboard.
#18
Posted 20 March 2006 - 06:49 PM
#19
Posted 20 March 2006 - 08:24 PM
20th March -2006
Hi Welcome to [Geeks to Go]
Your photos show the problem Your Processor Fan is pretty well clogged with dust Processor is Overheating -
*****Turn PC [OFF] & Disconnect [Power Cord] from PC before cleaning - *****
Carefully Remove Fan from Heat sink assembly & Clean the Heat sink Make sure you observe the Fan Orientation to Heat Sink when removing so that you replace it on the Heat Sink exactly the same after cleaning The Fan Rotation is dependent on the Mounting The air must be forced down into the heat sink assembly and forced out thru the sides of the heat sink Use a very thin pin/needle like object to peal the large chunks of dust out first then use a Can of [Cleaning Duster Air] to clean the Heat Sink- READ Instructions on Can Keep the Can UPRIGHT at all times Do not tilt shake invert Can must be UPRIGHT If can is tilted The Compressed Air will transform into a LIQUID which will be a greater Hazard than the Dust After cleaning Remount the FAN Tighten the 4 screws- without stripping threads Reconnect Fan connector
Double check all connections - & Fan Assembly for correct mounting It is very easy to accidentally bump a connector or wire off the motherboard or other assembly -
Your computer should boot up OK Now after cleaning -
EDITED - You should also check & clean the - [AIR FILTERS] - & clean the chassis Fan
Good Luck
Jack123
Edited by Jack123, 23 March 2006 - 07:49 PM.
#20
Posted 21 March 2006 - 07:18 AM
21st March -2006
I just added some notes to the previous Post I want to notify you of them
*****Turn PC [OFF] & Disconnect [Power Cord] from PC before cleaning - *****
*******Clean Air Filter/s & Clean Chassis Fan *****
Jack123
Edited by Jack123, 23 March 2006 - 08:49 AM.
#21
Posted 21 March 2006 - 09:14 AM
Dawn
#22
Posted 21 March 2006 - 09:06 PM
21st March -2006
Sorry -
I know the problem still exists I shot from the hip when I saw all that dust in the photo I got excited and shot off a quick post - Usually that would have caused the PC to [Freeze] not the [Restart] I really know better but that Heat sink was pretty well clogged I dont think it was [Packed Down] but the fins were pretty well blocked plus the fan blades were covered It had to be cleaned It just prevented a future problem -
I do not understand the way that PC is starting [Standby Power] appears to be starting the Fans and PC before pressing the [Start Button]
Appears that [Power On/Good] Circuit/Signal is shorted to [+5 volt] on the Motherboard that is permitting the PC to startup prior to the Power Supply Warm up Time
But I suspect that the Old Power Supply Wiring/Motherboard Interface is not compatible to the new Power Supply Standard Wiring This [Abstract Troubleshooting] gets harder at this point A couple of good Voltmeter checks would probably locate problem
I do not have the [Luxury] of having any old PCs laying around to do any Research on Although I do have an old Motherboard around that I could trace the Circuitry - Ill do some research
I was going to open the front to check the button itself but I can't find any charts on how to get in there
Here is a link for - Front Panel - http://downloads.ema...werButton_a.pdf
******Just make sure [POWER] is Disconnected******
Maybe some more photos of Motherboard & Switch may help - Ill review your Posts again Maybe I will see some clue that I overlooked -
Jack123
Edited by Jack123, 23 March 2006 - 08:55 AM.
#23
Posted 22 March 2006 - 08:17 AM
#24
Posted 22 March 2006 - 10:12 AM
22nd March -2006
I don't have a Voltmeter and I'm not sure how to use one. I'm guessing with some instruction it probably wouldn't be too difficult to do.
No I was kind of talking to myself [??]
I do see something that is bothering me in the 2nd Photo which is showing the [Heat sink Assembly]
The small 4-pin Connector that is to the left of the Fan Assembly there are 2 yellow wires & 2 black wires
They appear to be caught under the lower end of the [Fan/Heat sink Assembly] [??] Can you verify if they are damaged & shorting to this Assembly or are pinched under this assembly or is snagged on the corner of the assembly This is the 12 Volt Input to Processor The yellow wire looks like it is pinched -
Another item is in 1st photo The [20-pin Power Connector] is shown The top pins Are the [pins 1 thru 10] and are read [Left to right] [pin 01 is far top left & has orange wire] and [pin 10 is top right and has yellow wire] - - - Pin 8 has a grey wire - - - -what does pin [9] - - - -have - - - I cannot see - - -It should be a Purple Wire - - These are the Standby Power & Power OK Signals -
Also verify that the connector is [Seated and/or connected properly] not sure if it is keyed I would think that it is keyed [??] It looks correct Make sure that the pins are not twisted or shorted sometimes when you install this type of connector the pins shift - & - twist so they have 2 pins in one hole
here are more links I will search for that front panel info -
Emachines Link
http://www.emachines...ies&model=T2895
Parts & Upgrades
http://www.emachines...t/upgrades.html
Jack123
Edited by Jack123, 23 March 2006 - 08:55 AM.
#25
Posted 22 March 2006 - 11:38 AM
1. I checked those wires, they look crimped but they really aren't, I had to sort of tuck them under the corner there because they were getting hit by the fan when it turned on. They appear to be fine.
2. That wire is indeed purple, it is hard to see even when sitting in front of it. Had to use a flashlight.
3. I removed the connection and it is seated properly. Nothing appears to be twisted or shorted.
Those were the same sites that I was looking on. I just emailed their tech support team to see if they could send me something.
#26
Posted 22 March 2006 - 02:03 PM
22nd March 2006
Thanks for sticking with me
Well we cannot let your [Grandmother] down
I checked those wires, they look crimped but they really aren't, I had to sort of tuck them under the corner there because they were getting hit by the fan when it turned on. They appear to be fine.
I looked at original picture there seems to be a yellow wire that is running under the [Bottom] that is caught on the [Heat sink] below the Fan This may have been there a long time and has finally has gone from [Intermittent] to [Permanent]
Please double check It just doesnt look healthy [??]
Jack123
Edited by Jack123, 23 March 2006 - 08:56 AM.
#27
Posted 22 March 2006 - 03:09 PM
I also got a picture of the back of the button. Looks like everything is ok there too.
P.S. The woman went 77 years or so without a computer but we have spoiled her to the point that in the last 6 years she is addicted to it and getting antsy without her Slingo!
#28
Posted 23 March 2006 - 08:47 AM
23rd March -2006
I checked, here is a picture for you:
Just trying to find something beside the [Motherboard] Thanks for the photo
Lets disconnect some items Disconnect the [4-pin Power Connector] from
1- Hard Drive
2- Floppy Drive
3- CD & DVD Drives
4- You should have a [Rear Exhaust Fan] other than the Power Supply Disconnect the Power Connector from the Fan if it exists
Now turn the PC [ON] & see if the Power Supply remains On Pc will not boot because Hard Drive is disconnected but if one of the drives or fan are bad then Power Supply should remain On
If Power Supply still shuts down Then Remove the Bottom [PCI Expansion Card] - & check if Power Supply remains ON with that removed
Jack123
#29
Posted 23 March 2006 - 10:06 AM
#30
Posted 23 March 2006 - 11:38 AM
23rd March -2006
I did steps 1-4 with the same outcome. When you say remove the bottom, do you mean umplug something else? I'm in new territory here, not quite sure what you want me to unplug.
I am referring to the [Circuit Card] in [3rd Photo of POST 23] See attachment of Photo for Removal Details I have enhanced the photo by extending the [Hold-down/Retaining Screw] that needs to be removed - & pointing to the area Outside of PC where there should be a Connector or Plugs to remove This is either [Video Card] [Modem] or [Sound Card] I want it to be disconnected/removed from the [Motherboard] by Pulling it straight back towards you But you must [1st] remove the screw & Connectors so it will be free in order to be removed Then Turn PC on - & see if Power Supply remains ON with this Card removed from the Slot on Motherboard -
See Attachment
Jack123
Edited by Jack123, 23 March 2006 - 11:40 AM.
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