[harrythook]

instead of skunk works, possibly "Geeks works"?????

* Sarahw pulls out old some 3 inch thick Weapons System manuals and blows of the dust

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Lol skunk works is the name of the lockheed martin secret weapons research facility, wouldnt have the same effect as geek works since geeks dont make advanced aircraft.

[warriorscot]

Lol skunk works is the name of the lockheed martin secret weapons research facility, wouldnt have the same effect as geek works since geeks dont make advanced aircraft.

[harrythook]

Yes, but just think of the stealth bomber that would eliminate malware at the source, like a "cruise program".

More seriously, not much talk about this in our news here in the states:

BHUBANESWAR, India (Reuters) - India on Sunday test-fired its longest-range nuclear-capable ballistic missile, the Agni III, which can hit targets deep within China, a senior defense ministry official said.

The missile, whose name means fire, has a range of more than 3,000 km, and was launched from Wheeler island off the coast of the eastern state of Orissa, the official, who did not wish to be named, told Reuters.

--- copy REUTERS online ---

[warriorscot]

No one is to bothered about India because they are a democratic fromer colonial nation with strong ties to the west and are part of the global community. Besides apart from there own bothers with pakistan they arent a threat and are actually doing alot of groundwork in that region and add a bit of stability to the region they also help patrol the pakistan border to prevent insurgents leaving afganistan for refuge in pakistan.

[sarahw]

Yes but your forgetting that India is not part of the Nuclear "Non Proliferation Treaty".

Although the Australia and US hav helds talks discussing the sale of Uranium to India (which downplays the point of having the treaty ie. Ok for them but not for you)......

[Facedown98]

Now that I'm back, I can say what I've heard... The good news is that North korea is still behind in this process. We can see how one of the missiles failed, which is a sign that they still have much work to do. This not only gives everyone else time to prepare, but also time to attempt to negotiate.

[warriorscot]

Does it really matter if they are in a non proliferation treaty, its paper means nothing i would very much doubt any nation in it actually follows the rules of the treaty, the US and UK certainly dont at least unofficially treaties mean nothing they only prevent official action by governments most governments though spend vast amounts of money to unofficially do things they normally cant.

[sarahw]

Yeah that's sort of half my point. It's only worth the paper it's written on if countries abide by it across the board.
The same could be said for many others to....
Geneva, Salt, Salt II, ABM, Kyoto. Even Resolutions and Sanctions don't mean much untill after invasion or retaliation.
But it sure makes things difficult for countries that don't have the recources.

Edited by sarahw, 09 July 2006 - 02:21 PM.

[warriorscot]

Well not really because they just dont join the treaties and are so immune from them, it was the reason the US has nothing to do with Kyoto the resources to implement it go to other things therefore they didnt join.

The only convention that is pretty strictly followed is Geneva but that is one of the oldest and has always been enforced quite strictly as the implications for breaking it are quite severe and unlike most conventions its not just governments in general but individuals that bear responsibility for breaking it and the jail time for it is quite significant. It sometimes takes a while for people who break geneva to be punished but they almost always do.

The thing about poor countries is that most of their money goes into developing the resources to circumvent international law or the wishes of the community as we see in N korea its not at all a poor nation yet its people are poor because money gets spent on weapons and subterfuge.

Also most of the worlds terrorists and rogue governments either are or have been at some point funded by the west and thats alot of money JUST for developing off the books resources. The sad fact is most of these nations dont fund there own illegal projects its richer governments pulling the strings, certainly it doesnt happen to the extent it used to but it still happens.

[fleamailman]

One missle going wrong does not prove that their technology is lacking, that happens to NASA and more often with the European missles too, but North Korea's weakest point here is that they do not have a protected target area so I would simply suggest tagging the pick-up ships and getting to the projectile before they do. North Korea if they continued to send off missiles would simply be giving up the secrets to us and then they would either have to use compremised technology or untried technology either of which would be an advance for us then.

btw perhaps what we should really be worrying about is if the missle runs on windows XP os, so keep your eyes out any strange HJT logs then :-)

Edited by fleamailman, 09 July 2006 - 02:59 PM.

[sarahw]

keep your eyes out any strange HJT logs then :-)

ROFL

O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [TAEPODONG] C:\Program Files\DPRK\SECRET NUKE PROJECTS\Taepodong.exe

[harrythook]

You have a specific infection, please follow all the following instructions.

Reboot into safe mode:
If you are not sure how to do this, get under your desk, place your head between your knees, and brace for the blast!

[s2006]

hahahahahahahahaha you guys are too funny !!!

[fleamailman]

No to me what is funny is that the lockheeds weapons research joint should be named skunk since I thought that was another type of joint altogether and strange images do spring to mind.

[warriorscot]

According to Wikipedia:

The term "Skunk works" came from the then-popular Al Capp comic strip Li'l Abner, which was popular in the 1940s. In the comic, the "Skonk Works" was a backwoods still operated by Big Barnsmell, known as the "inside man at the Skonk Works." In his secret facility, he made "kickapoo joy juice" by grinding dead skunks and worn shoes into a smoldering vat.

The original Lockheed facility, during the development of the P-80, was located downwind of a malodorous plastics factory. According to Ben Rich's memoir, an engineer showed up to work one day wearing a Civil Defense gas mask as a gag. To comment on the smell and the secrecy the project entailed, another engineer, Irving Culver, referred to the facility as "Skonk Works". One day, when the Department of the Navy was trying to reach the Lockheed management for the P-80 project, the call was accidentally transferred to Culver's desk. Culver answered the phone in his trademark fashion of the time, by picking up the phone and stating "Skonk Works, inside man Culver". "What?" replied the voice at the other end. "Skonk Works" Culver repeated. The name stuck. Culver later said at an interview conducted in 1993 that "when Kelly [Johnson] heard about the incident, he promptly fired me. It didn't really matter, since he was firing me about twice a day anyways."

At the request of the comic strip copyright holders, Lockheed changed the name of the advanced development company to "Skunk Works" in the 1960s. The name "Skunk Works" and the skunk design are now registered trademarks of the Lockheed Martin Corporation.

like so many things it started as a joke, it seems that the people that do the most serious jobs have the most serious jokes.