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joejobs

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Hi:
Boot time is taking about 40 secs.
Normally I have it at 6-7 secs.

I have done:
obtain a clean bill from malware
Clean up
defragment
checkdisc
Tune XP
Bootvis
Tune Up uilities
Privacy keeper
clean up software
ccleaner
spybot
adaware
norton
disabled all unnecssary services.msc
XPLite
CWShredder
spyware blaster
TweakUI
Tweakall
ATFCleaner
cacheman to release RAM
task manager to disable unnecesary services
autoruns



Normally I should have fixed everything by now but I've been stuck for about
4 days now and I can't figurre out what I have done or how I can
get the PC booting up fast again

PLEASE HELP
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You could try stopping the boot screen and watch where the boot stops , then go into bootlog and see what the next file loaded was. That will tell you where to look for the problem.

This is a full reference to the boot.ini file to setup a bootlog.txt
(which in XP,in this example,is ntbtlog.txt)
more information here
http://www.sysintern...on/bootini.html

The parameters added below should turn off the graphical welcome and allow you to see each process happening that you can't see when the graphical interface is covering it.

BOOT.INI line:

/noguiboot /sos /bootlog

These turn off the graphical screen, display each driver as it loads, and save a bootlog to %WINDOWS\ntbtlog.txt

Remember to remove these parameters later after you've finished your analysis.

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I can understand what the process is
but I can't configure it!

I went it to the registry:
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\SystemStartOptions

and changed this value from how I had configured it before (this was done through a notepad file boot.ini):


[boot loader]
timeout=0
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Home" /fastdetect /noguiboot

changed it to:
/noguiboot /sos /bootlog
directly in the registry.

but I do not see any differences in the boot and no bootlog file.

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Should I configure it through a notepad file or directly in the registry?
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if you start messing with the registry you should be making a back-up of it

otherwise your in for some serious trouble

so with you want to start changing values in the registry

for example

HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\SystemStartOptions>> highlight the key by clicking on it then right click it and click export then save as what ever you want name it like start-up >>> save in my documents >>>that wy you have a back-up in case something goes wrong you can always merge your saved registry key

but i serioslly think that you should not be messing with the registry
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Yes, normally I back-up those files.

What I am trying to do is fix something that SRX660 thinks knows how to fix

did you understand what srx660 wrote??
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i did but was given you a little caution
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thanks
The instructions get written in notepad doc or directly in the registry?
I already pasted /noguiboot /sos /bootlog in the registry
and where is ntbtlog.txt located?

nothing happened--also did a search for the bootlog (ntbtlog.txt) in all files and folders and found nothing
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if it was saved in notepad

open notepad and even if its blank >>click save as>>new window pop-up>>do you see your file>>if not click recent >>it may show there>>if it does right click it and send to desktop (create short cut)

wait for SRX660
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ok dude
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From microsoft

http://msdn2.microso...y/ms791569.aspx


from http://msdn2.microso...y/ms791545.aspx

This boot parameter is supported only on Windows Server 2003, Windows XP, and Windows 2000.

The /noguiboot option is supported only on Windows Server 2003 with SP1 and Windows XP with SP2.

When /noguiboot is used, the system does not initialize bootvid.dll, the software component that provides basic video support before the computer's graphics drivers are loaded. Because bootvid.dll is not operating, the computer cannot display bit-mapped graphics during the boot process.

You can use this parameter to investigate problems with video devices.
Example

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect /noguiboot


Windows Driver Kit: Driver Development Tools
/sos

The /sos parameter displays the names of the drivers as they load during the boot process.

/sos

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The /sos parameter is supported only on Windows Server 2003, Windows XP, and Windows 2000. On Windows Vista and Windows Server "Longhorn", use the SOS option with BCDEdit.
Example

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect /sos


Windows Driver Kit: Driver Development Tools
/bootlog

The /bootlog parameter records the names of drivers as they load during the boot process and saves the ordered list in the %SystemRoot%\ntbtlog.txt file.

I was just trying to help you find the problem driver. It's obvious that the reason you have a very long boot time is that windows is stuck looking for a driver.

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thanks helping me.
Some questions:

1. Where do I save the notepad boot.ini file?

2. Is this the correct format to write it in notepad for example to make it boot with
Bootlog, sos, noguiboot

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Home" /fastdetect /noguiboot /sos /bootlog
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Got to the bootlog.

Several drivers are not loading, tried to reinstall them from the driver cd.

The driver cd refuses to run, just opens the error reporting window, and does not open...

all other cds run.....

:whistling:
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Yes, you will have to figure out why the drivers do not load. What drivers are the ones that do not load? Do you have them disabled in the Services ? Another thought is can they be disabled( or in manual) in the services so windows will ignore them when booting.They may be files needed by windows to load up properly so be careful here about disabling them. Read what they are supposed to do.

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thanks.
Tedious..I am figuring out if they are related to services.msc

Anyway I will post the drivers that are not loading:

Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\NDProxy.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\lbrtfdc.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Sfloppy.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\i2omgmt.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Changer.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Cdaudio.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\kbdhid.sys
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\PCIDump.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\rdbss.sys
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mrxsmb.sys
Did not load driver \??\C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\SAVRTPEL.SYS

it will be simpler if I could reinstall them from the cd, but I can't get it to open
and always catch viruses when download from internet....
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As i am not sure on how to fix your problem all i can do is suggest where to look.

Heres a website with a very similar problem to yours. I think you should read it and see if anything applys.

http://www.msfn.org/...showtopic=36426

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