[gerryf]

gonna take me a little typing

in the meantime, search through that i386 directory and find a file called setupp.ini (that's two Ps)

open it in notepad and find the line that says
Pid=xxxxxxxx

write those numbers down.

I'll type something up tonight and we'll get it tomorrow--I won't be on for very long this evening

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got that number?

[gerryf]

got that number?

[mdr29]

Pid=55277OEM

[gerryf]

This Home? Where did you get this CD?

Lemme try and explain....

The PID controls how a cd behaves. By that number, it should be an XPHOME, no service pack, OEM install.

The first half describes how a disk behaves, the second dictates how what CD keys it will take, so

55277 OEM
This is Windows XP Home Retail that takes OEM CD keys

Good, that is what we want.


I generally use this process for swapping CD key acceptance values for people when I am working on their machine and they have lost their cd, but have a legitimate license. So, I only need to carry one CD image on my harddrive.

Now, my thinking was that we should be able to change the first half to a retail cd or upgrade cd that can do a repair, but leaves the second half so it still takes your key, which is your legal license to this windows.

But, I am looking at various PIDs for home OEM, retail and upgrade, and the OEM and Retail are the same PID behavior keys.....I assumed (shouldn't do that), we could swap the beginning to make it behave the way we want, but now I am wondering if the OEM CDs are simply crippled to prevent repairs....

That means we will have to try something else, but let me do some research...I just cannot comprehend why MS would make a product that cannot be repaired.

[mdr29]

This CD came with my Dell purchased in September 2003. The disc says:

OPERATING SYSTEM

Reinstallation CD
Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
Including Service Pack 1

Only use this CD to reinstall the operating system on a Dell computer. This CD is not for reinstallation of programs or drivers.

Also, the entire SETUPP.INI is:

[Pid]
ExtraData=786F687170637175716954806365EF
Pid=55277OEM

Thanks for looking into this.

[mdr29]

Hi... Any more ideas on what I might try? Thanks.

[gerryf]

well, I hadn't until you just revived this thread.....(it's always ok to bump these things).

start run
regedit
navigate to
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon

Select it, choose export and name it winlogon.reg

open it in notepad, cut and paste here

[mdr29]

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon]
"AutoRestartShell"=dword:00000001
"DefaultDomainName"="D2NBNF31"
"DefaultUserName"="Mirla"
"LegalNoticeCaption"=""
"LegalNoticeText"=""
"PowerdownAfterShutdown"="0"
"ReportBootOk"="1"
"Shell"="Explorer.exe"
"ShutdownWithoutLogon"="0"
"System"=""
"Userinit"="C:\\WINDOWS\\system32\\userinit.exe,"
"VmApplet"="rundll32 shell32,Control_RunDLL \"sysdm.cpl\""
"SfcQuota"=dword:ffffffff
"allocatecdroms"="0"
"allocatedasd"="0"
"allocatefloppies"="0"
"cachedlogonscount"="10"
"forceunlocklogon"=dword:00000000
"passwordexpirywarning"=dword:0000000e
"scremoveoption"="0"
"AllowMultipleTSSessions"=dword:00000001
"UIHost"=hex(2):6c,00,6f,00,67,00,6f,00,6e,00,75,00,69,00,2e,00,65,00,78,00,65,\
00,00,00
"LogonType"=dword:00000001
"Background"="0 0 0"
"DebugServerCommand"="no"
"SFCDisable"=dword:00000000
"WinStationsDisabled"="0"
"HibernationPreviouslyEnabled"=dword:00000001
"ShowLogonOptions"=dword:00000001
"AltDefaultUserName"="Mirla"
"AltDefaultDomainName"="D2NBNF31"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\GPExtensions]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\GPExtensions\{3610eda5-77ef-11d2-8dc5-00c04fa31a66}]
@="Microsoft Disk Quota"
"NoMachinePolicy"=dword:00000000
"NoUserPolicy"=dword:00000001
"NoSlowLink"=dword:00000001
"NoBackgroundPolicy"=dword:00000001
"NoGPOListChanges"=dword:00000001
"PerUserLocalSettings"=dword:00000000
"RequiresSuccessfulRegistry"=dword:00000001
"EnableAsynchronousProcessing"=dword:00000000
"DllName"=hex(2):64,00,73,00,6b,00,71,00,75,00,6f,00,74,00,61,00,2e,00,64,00,\
6c,00,6c,00,00,00
"ProcessGroupPolicy"="ProcessGroupPolicy"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\GPExtensions\{827D319E-6EAC-11D2-A4EA-00C04F79F83A}]
"ProcessGroupPolicy"="SceProcessSecurityPolicyGPO"
"GenerateGroupPolicy"="SceGenerateGroupPolicy"
"ExtensionRsopPlanningDebugLevel"=dword:00000001
"ProcessGroupPolicyEx"="SceProcessSecurityPolicyGPOEx"
"ExtensionDebugLevel"=dword:00000001
"DllName"=hex(2):73,00,63,00,65,00,63,00,6c,00,69,00,2e,00,64,00,6c,00,6c,00,\
00,00
@="Security"
"NoUserPolicy"=dword:00000001
"NoGPOListChanges"=dword:00000001
"EnableAsynchronousProcessing"=dword:00000001
"MaxNoGPOListChangesInterval"=dword:000003c0

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\GPExtensions\{A2E30F80-D7DE-11d2-BBDE-00C04F86AE3B}]
"ProcessGroupPolicyEx"="ProcessGroupPolicyEx"
"GenerateGroupPolicy"="GenerateGroupPolicy"
"ProcessGroupPolicy"="ProcessGroupPolicy"
"DllName"=hex(2):69,00,65,00,64,00,6b,00,63,00,73,00,33,00,32,00,2e,00,64,00,\
6c,00,6c,00,00,00
@="Internet Explorer Branding"
"NoSlowLink"=dword:00000001
"NoBackgroundPolicy"=dword:00000000
"NoGPOListChanges"=dword:00000001
"NoMachinePolicy"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\GPExtensions\{B1BE8D72-6EAC-11D2-A4EA-00C04F79F83A}]
"ProcessGroupPolicy"="SceProcessEFSRecoveryGPO"
"DllName"=hex(2):73,00,63,00,65,00,63,00,6c,00,69,00,2e,00,64,00,6c,00,6c,00,\
00,00
@="EFS recovery"
"NoUserPolicy"=dword:00000001
"NoGPOListChanges"=dword:00000001
"RequiresSuccessfulRegistry"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\GPExtensions\{c6dc5466-785a-11d2-84d0-00c04fb169f7}]
@="Software Installation"
"ProcessGroupPolicyEx"="ProcessGroupPolicyObjectsEx"
"GenerateGroupPolicy"="GenerateGroupPolicy"
"NoBackgroundPolicy"=dword:00000000
"RequiresSucessfulRegistry"=dword:00000000
"NoSlowLink"=dword:00000001
"PerUserLocalSettings"=dword:00000001
"EventSources"=hex(7):28,00,41,00,70,00,70,00,6c,00,69,00,63,00,61,00,74,00,69,\
00,6f,00,6e,00,20,00,4d,00,61,00,6e,00,61,00,67,00,65,00,6d,00,65,00,6e,00,\
74,00,2c,00,41,00,70,00,70,00,6c,00,69,00,63,00,61,00,74,00,69,00,6f,00,6e,\
00,29,00,00,00,28,00,4d,00,73,00,69,00,49,00,6e,00,73,00,74,00,61,00,6c,00,\
6c,00,65,00,72,00,2c,00,41,00,70,00,70,00,6c,00,69,00,63,00,61,00,74,00,69,\
00,6f,00,6e,00,29,00,00,00,00,00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Notify]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Notify\crypt32chain]
"Asynchronous"=dword:00000000
"Impersonate"=dword:00000000
"DllName"=hex(2):63,00,72,00,79,00,70,00,74,00,33,00,32,00,2e,00,64,00,6c,00,\
6c,00,00,00
"Logoff"="ChainWlxLogoffEvent"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Notify\cryptnet]
"Asynchronous"=dword:00000000
"Impersonate"=dword:00000000
"DllName"=hex(2):63,00,72,00,79,00,70,00,74,00,6e,00,65,00,74,00,2e,00,64,00,\
6c,00,6c,00,00,00
"Logoff"="CryptnetWlxLogoffEvent"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Notify\cscdll]
"DLLName"="cscdll.dll"
"Logon"="WinlogonLogonEvent"
"Logoff"="WinlogonLogoffEvent"
"ScreenSaver"="WinlogonScreenSaverEvent"
"Startup"="WinlogonStartupEvent"
"Shutdown"="WinlogonShutdownEvent"
"StartShell"="WinlogonStartShellEvent"
"Impersonate"=dword:00000000
"Asynchronous"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Notify\ScCertProp]
"DLLName"="wlnotify.dll"
"Logon"="SCardStartCertProp"
"Logoff"="SCardStopCertProp"
"Lock"="SCardSuspendCertProp"
"Unlock"="SCardResumeCertProp"
"Enabled"=dword:00000001
"Impersonate"=dword:00000001
"Asynchronous"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Notify\Schedule]
"Asynchronous"=dword:00000000
"DllName"=hex(2):77,00,6c,00,6e,00,6f,00,74,00,69,00,66,00,79,00,2e,00,64,00,\
6c,00,6c,00,00,00
"Impersonate"=dword:00000000
"StartShell"="SchedStartShell"
"Logoff"="SchedEventLogOff"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Notify\sclgntfy]
"Logoff"="WLEventLogoff"
"Impersonate"=dword:00000000
"Asynchronous"=dword:00000001
"DllName"=hex(2):73,00,63,00,6c,00,67,00,6e,00,74,00,66,00,79,00,2e,00,64,00,\
6c,00,6c,00,00,00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Notify\SensLogn]
"DLLName"="WlNotify.dll"
"Lock"="SensLockEvent"
"Logon"="SensLogonEvent"
"Logoff"="SensLogoffEvent"
"Safe"=dword:00000001
"MaxWait"=dword:00000258
"StartScreenSaver"="SensStartScreenSaverEvent"
"StopScreenSaver"="SensStopScreenSaverEvent"
"Startup"="SensStartupEvent"
"Shutdown"="SensShutdownEvent"
"StartShell"="SensStartShellEvent"
"PostShell"="SensPostShellEvent"
"Disconnect"="SensDisconnectEvent"
"Reconnect"="SensReconnectEvent"
"Unlock"="SensUnlockEvent"
"Impersonate"=dword:00000001
"Asynchronous"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Notify\termsrv]
"Asynchronous"=dword:00000000
"DllName"=hex(2):77,00,6c,00,6e,00,6f,00,74,00,69,00,66,00,79,00,2e,00,64,00,\
6c,00,6c,00,00,00
"Impersonate"=dword:00000000
"Logoff"="TSEventLogoff"
"Logon"="TSEventLogon"
"PostShell"="TSEventPostShell"
"Shutdown"="TSEventShutdown"
"StartShell"="TSEventStartShell"
"Startup"="TSEventStartup"
"MaxWait"=dword:00000258
"Reconnect"="TSEventReconnect"
"Disconnect"="TSEventDisconnect"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Notify\wlballoon]
"DLLName"="wlnotify.dll"
"Logon"="RegisterTicketExpiredNotificationEvent"
"Logoff"="UnregisterTicketExpiredNotificationEvent"
"Impersonate"=dword:00000001
"Asynchronous"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\SCLogon]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\SpecialAccounts]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\SpecialAccounts\UserList]
"HelpAssistant"=dword:00000000
"TsInternetUser"=dword:00000000
"SQLAgentCmdExec"=dword:00000000
"NetShowServices"=dword:00000000
"IWAM_"=dword:00010000
"IUSR_"=dword:00010000
"VUSR_"=dword:00010000

[mdr29]

I hope you can make some sense of this. Thx.

[mdr29]

bump

[gerryf]

thanks for the bump....no...not helpful...


this is going to sound stupid, but have we tried reinstalling IE?

[mdr29]

THIS is going to sound stupid, but I think we did reinstall IE but I'm not positive...

One question: As you know, I didn't have any luck with the repair process described in this forum. However, since I'm not having trouble booting normally, just loss of functionality of certain Windows processes (the ones that require me to access files, e.g., opening Recycle bin, opening folders on my desktop, using Windows Explorer, opening Control Panel (though oddly, running *.cpl commands DOES work)), could I try running the XP CD from within Windows and trying an in-place upgrade from it? Does that serve the same purpose as the repair or would I be worse off?

[mdr29]

bump

[yburt]

Hi

Why don't you back up all your information and just reinstall the OS? That way you save all that you want to put back on the PC and you have a fresh install of XP....also after you've done this, make sure you have a reliable anti-virus, anti-spyware, and addware software for your system.

BTW when the system grinds to a halt like you describe....are you able to open task manager and see what processes are running?? might be a good idea to check and then remove the application associated with the process or configure it to run when you want it to........also check which apps are configured to start at startup.u never know...