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SirNight33

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OK,well.. heres my question my old pc fried im buying a new pc soon so could i run CoD4,Supreme Commander,Crysis,Gears of War,Kane & Lynch with this computer?

CPU: AMD Athlon™ X2 4600+ Dual-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology
MOTHERBOARD: Asus M2A-VM AMD 690G Chipset DDR2/800 SATA RAID PCI-Express MBoard w/Radeon X1250 Graphic, GbLAN, USB2.0, &7.1Audio
MEMORY: 2GB (2x1GB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory
VIDEO CARD: ATI Radeon HD 3650 PCI-E x16 512MB Video Card
OS:Windows XP SP2 (i might get vista instead costs the same not sure if i should go 32bit or 64bit?)

Also im a little confused when a processor says "Dual Core 2.4 ghz" does that mean 2.4 ghz each core or 2.4ghz combined so would it be 4.8ghz?
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Titan8990

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When it comes to gaming builds AMD can't compete with Intel. AMD is good for mult-purpose budget builds but not in a gaming build that you are trying to achieve. This system will run COD4 but it might not be to your liking.

To be honest I would scrap the whole list you have and start over with a Intel platform. What is your budget for this PC?


Also im a little confused when a processor says "Dual Core 2.4 ghz" does that mean 2.4 ghz each core or 2.4ghz combined so would it be 4.8ghz?



It doesn't quite work like that. A 2.4Ghz Core 2 Duo can perform 2-4 times better than a 2.4Ghz Pentium 4 (depending on the use). It is still running at 2.4Ghz clock and in no way is it 4.8Ghz. The clock speed is what it says, 2.4. There is more to factor in then just pure clock speed. New technologies are going into these new chips so it is no longer a clock speed war.

Edited by Titan8990, 29 March 2008 - 11:01 AM.

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Ok..so..well i really want to play Stalker:Clear Sky(when its out),Kane&Lynch,Gears of War and Assassin's Creed im looking at www.cyberpowerpc.com don't really care if the graphics aren't on ultra high settings [bleep] im usually playing games currently on low xD played stalker on static lightning on minimum still found it fun! :) heres another pc im looking at please give your opinion..

CPU: (Sckt775)Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E4500 CPU @ 2.20GHz 800FSB 2MB L2 Cache 64-bit
MEMORY: (Req.DDR2 MainBoard)2GB (2x1GB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory (Mushkin or Major Brand)
VIDEO CARD: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT 512MB 16X PCI Express (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)

Cyberpower seems ok but does anyone know of someother US based custom pc sites?

Edit:Oops! I'm still a little confused about the dual core stuff from what i understood your saying that a dualcore processor at say 2.2ghz would be better then a single core processor at 3.2ghz?(Dont know if theres really 3.2ghz processor's just giving an example)

Edit #2:Forgot to ask but which graphics card is better ATI or Geforce? im looking at the Geforce 8600 or the ATI Radeon HD 3650

Edit#3 Sorry for all the edits! BUT Titan ive got another question not sure if you can answer it tho can you tell me pros/cons of these two systems? because i really dont know anything about pcs both are dual core same video card....

CPU:(Sckt775)Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E4500 CPU @ 2.20GHz 800FSB 2MB L2 Cache 64-bit
MEMORY:2GB (2x1GB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory
VIDEO CARD: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT 512MB 16X PCI Express

CPU: AMD Athlon™ X2 4800+ Dual-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology
MEMORY:2GB (2x1GB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory
VIDEO CARD: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT 512MB 16X PCI Express

Edited by SirNight33, 29 March 2008 - 12:03 PM.

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What is your budget for this system? Do you have anything against building it yourself? Do you plan on overclocking the system? What resolution do you plan on gaming at?

Neither of those systems are really doing well in the CPU and video card department. The games you have mentioned will chew up and spit out even the most high end systems.


Generally speaking you shouldn't concern yourself with single core CPUs at all. Like DDR memory and AGP slots it is a dead technology.

Edit #2:Forgot to ask but which graphics card is better ATI or Geforce? im looking at the Geforce 8600 or the ATI Radeon HD 3650


It depends on the game and the setting but for the most part these are about the same.

Edit#3 Sorry for all the edits! BUT Titan ive got another question not sure if you can answer it tho can you tell me pros/cons of these two systems? because i really dont know anything about pcs both are dual core same video card....


These are more or less the same as well. The Intel system will usually overclock much better.

Edited by Titan8990, 29 March 2008 - 01:13 PM.

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What is your budget for this system? Do you have anything against building it yourself? Do you plan on overclocking the system? What resolution do you plan on gaming at?


Uhm well i don't really wana fry another pc...and probably 1024x768 or 1280x1024 i know nothing about "overclocking" sounds pretty dangerous :) and my budget is $600 USD.
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Those systems will handle it but the setting will need to be low. You probably won't do much better for $600 with Windows being $110-130 for an OEM version. Building it yourself can ensure that there is room for upgrade when the time comes though.

Edited by Titan8990, 29 March 2008 - 01:41 PM.

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Assassin's Creed RECOMMENDED System Requirements
•Processor: Intel Core® 2 Duo 2.2 GHz or AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+
•RAM: 1 GB Windows Xp / 2 GB Windows Vista
•Video Card: ATI® RADEON® X1600*/1650*-1950/HD 2000/3000 series NVIDIA GeForce® 6800*/7/8/9 series

Kane and Lynch: Dead Men RECOMMENDED System Requirements
• Windows XP SP2, Windows Vista
• 3.0 GHz Intel Pentium 4 or AMD Athlon XP 3000+
• 2.0 GB RAM
• 128 MB NVIDIA 8300 or ATI X1800 or better
• 7.0 GB free hard disk space
• DirectX 9 compatible sound card
• DirectX 9.0c

Gears of War RECOMMENDED SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS:
• OS: Windows Vista or Windows XP
• Processor 2.4+ GHz Intel; 2.0+ Ghz AMD
• RAM 1 GB
• Hard Drive 12 GB free hard drive space
• Video Card NVIDIA GeForce 6600+, ATI X700+

Supreme Commander RECOMMENDED SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS:
•3.0 GHz Intel or equivalent AMD processor or better
• 1 GB RAM or better
• 10 GB available hard drive space
• 256 MB video RAM,with DirectX 9 Vertex Shader / Pixel Shader 2.0 support (Nvidia 6800 or better)

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Heres the system specs of the two pcs im looking at....

CPU: AMD Athlon™ X2 4800+ Dual-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology
MEMORY:2GB (2x1GB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory
VIDEO CARD: ATI Radeon HD 3650 PCI-E x16 512MB Video Card

CPU:(Sckt775)Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E4500 CPU @ 2.20GHz 800FSB 2MB L2 Cache 64-bit
MEMORY:2GB (2x1GB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory
VIDEO CARD: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT 512MB 16X PCI Express
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Are you telling me that these pcs wont be able to run these games over Low Detail.. ill never get vista so ill probably use DX9 and im still confused about those dual core cpus maybe im just stupid....

Edited by SirNight33, 29 March 2008 - 02:28 PM.

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Sorry, should have specified which games in particular. I was referring to Crysis and COD4. How high of setting it will be able to handle, I can not tell you. "Playable" to some people is different to other people. I can tell you that you will be able to play all the games you have listed but how much eye candy is questionable.

I do recommend you get a quality 500w+ PSU in case you decide to upgrade your graphics card later.
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Ok, I've got a few more questions for ya Titan thanks for the help so far. I recently purchased a Monitor for my new PC(don't have it yet) and noticed it says "HD". But i'm not sure....is there some sort of cable/connection box for it to work with an HD Graphics card?

Also will Windows XP SP2 work with HD Graphics or am i going to need Vista?

Whats 720p,1080p,480p?
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ATI Radeon HD 3650 PCI-E x16 512MB
OR
NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT 512MB 16X PCI Express
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AMD Athlon™ X2 4800+ Dual-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology
OR
Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E4500 CPU @ 2.20GHz 800FSB 2MB L2 Cache 64-bit
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Edited by SirNight33, 29 March 2008 - 04:30 PM.

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Do you know what motherboards these CPUs are on?

These apply to HD TV:

720p = 1280x720

1080p = 1920x1080

Your standards for modern monitors are like this:

19" = 1440x900

22" = 1680x1050

24" = 1920x1200


This is not set in stone but will give you a general idea of what the native resolution of your monitor is. Of course the higher it gets the more taxing it gets on your system. Things really start to get ugly once your get into the 1920x1200 resolutions.
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Asus M2A-VM AMD 690G Chipset DDR2/800 Mainboard [AMD PROCESSOR]

MSI G31M-F Intel G31 Chipset LGA775 FSB1333 DDR2 Mainboard [INTEL PROCESSOR]
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Get the AMD because it has more headroom for upgrade later.
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Ok,thanks I was leaning towards the AMD.Should I go with the ATI Radeon HD 3650 or GeForce 8600 GT.Both are 16x PCI-E with 512mb RAM but the ATI has GDDR3 while the Geforce is GDDR2....

Edited by SirNight33, 30 March 2008 - 06:56 AM.

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This is your choice. The AMD well perform better when it comes to HD video playback but the Nvidia will do slightly better when it comes to gaming. Personally, I would get the Nvidia.
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Ok thanks for the help Titan. :)
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