[alienbreed]

Hello guy

What has happened is that I tried to install a Geforce 6200, followed the instructions etc, but when I rebooted the PC I got the black screen. I know Windows XP is loaded because I can hear the start up jingle. I tried to put my old graphics card back in but the black screen is still there.

I did the same thing on another PC and the same thing has happened. But on this one I am somehow able to get the old graphics card to work through removing the CMOS battery, changing the HD jumpers etc. This doesn't work on the other PC.

Can someone help me? I've spent hours just to get this older PC to work again and I'd like to use the other one if possible.

Thank you very much for any help!

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Hello alienbreed,

Welcome to Geeks to Go.

First : You could initially fix that to boot to SafeMode, then force the setting to 16 colours there, then do a full
shutdown (not restart! but a full OFF).

Second : go to Control Panel > Administartive tools > computer managment > double click device manager > then hit the + next to display devices. You should see the 6200 card. Can you see other device (not the geforce one).

Regards,

Edited by mirjel, 01 July 2008 - 04:18 PM.

[mirjel]

Hello alienbreed,

Welcome to Geeks to Go.

First : You could initially fix that to boot to SafeMode, then force the setting to 16 colours there, then do a full
shutdown (not restart! but a full OFF).

Second : go to Control Panel > Administartive tools > computer managment > double click device manager > then hit the + next to display devices. You should see the 6200 card. Can you see other device (not the geforce one).

Regards,

Edited by mirjel, 01 July 2008 - 04:18 PM.

[alienbreed]

Hello Mirjel and thanks for the welcome and reply.

I should have said that Safe Mode doesn't work either. Instead of the black screen the picture stays at the end of where it lists all the drivers and stuff loading. It doesn't get past that bit. Again I can hear Windows starting up and can use the keyboard and mouse, just not see anything other than the list. I've tried all the modes and reset the Bios and whatnot.

The only time I can view Device manager is with the old card and driver installed on this one PC. I get the black screen/list with both cards on the other PC.

Maybe the 6200 is busted or something. I suppose there could be a lot of possible reasons.

[Mr Freeze]

you could try to get to safemode options this way
LAST KNOWN GOOD CONFIGURATIONS
since you can use your keyboard

press windows key
tap upper arrow three times
then press enter
hit spacebar
type in msconfig
press enter
then press upper arrow key
once
then press right arrow key
press it three times then press ALT... F on your keyboard
then enter twice
hopefully it will boot to safemode option
at safemode options
choose LAST KNOWN GOOD CONFIGURATION

otherwise you may have go blind and remove those drivers in the device manager using your keyboard
getting to the device manager wouldnt be hard but finding the drivers would be

Edited by Mr Freeze, 01 July 2008 - 07:49 PM.

[mirjel]

Hello alienbreed.

We need to change the AGP settings in the Bios.

First : Turn off PC and clear Cmos using jumper. Turn on PC, Hold Delete button to access MB BIOS, check to see if BIOS has detected the video card, select "Load Optimized Defaults", choose "save and exit"

See if it boots into windows, if not

Second : Turn on PC, Hold Delete button to access MB BIOS, check to see if BIOS has detected the video card, if it set to AUTO and running on e.g. 8x, set to down e.g. 4x.

See if it boots into windows.

Regards,

[alienbreed]

Firstly, thanks a lot for taking the time to help guys.

mirjel: I did as you said but the same thing happened. No matter which graphics card I have inserted the BIOS says the same thing. The CMOS was reset though but it looks like it's detecting the old card every time (2x).

Mr Freeze: I can get to the safe mode options etc but no matter which setting I choose I either get the black screen or a frozen screen if I try to boot into safe mode. As I said the keyboard works though. That was a genius idea to write down the number of keys pressed to access certain options. I used one pc to record the keys pressed (wrote them down) then pressed the same keys on the PC with the black screen.

For some reason though I cannot either turn off the PC (Windows button, up arrow once, enter enter) or restart. I am able to uninstall and update drivers but when I try to turn off I hear a beep and then if I press esc I get a BSOD message which says "A process or thread crucial to system operation has unexpectedly exited or been terminated". I get the same thing no matter how long I leave the PC to iinstall the driver before turning it off as above.

That probably made no sense but I'm going to keep trying different things.

Cheers guys, see ya

[Mr Freeze]

hi ...just a question about your device manager
on the lists of devices do you remember how far down your display drivers are
if you do that would helpful i can guide to it so you can uninstall or rollback the drivers
are the windows preinstalled
or did you install them yourself

the blue screen could caused from those drivers from the graphics card

Edited by Mr Freeze, 02 July 2008 - 02:08 PM.

[alienbreed]

hi, I'm sure the Display adapter option was the third one down. I can uninstall and update the drivers already by remembering the keys pressed but I do it a different way to what you say. They do the same thing though don't they?

I think I've damaged the NVidia 6200 because the old card (ATI 3D RAGE PRO AGP 2X) is all that gets recognised.

Maybe the 6200 was the reason fron day one. I sure as [bleep] know I wish I never bought it from those Novatech [bleep]s.

Thanks for all your efforts everyone.

[alienbreed]

The Windows XP came with the 2nd hand PC. No XP disc or anything stored on the harddrive.

[Mr Freeze]

Press windows key
tap upper arrow three times
then press enter
hit spacebar
type in devmgmt.msc
press enter
Ctrl + ALT + TAB tap once
press down arrow Three Times
press right arrow
then enter
Ctrl + ALT + TAB tap once
here are your options
by pressing ALT+U...Will Uninstall Driver
Or Pressing ALT+R...Will Rollback Driver
tap enter 3 or 4 times
Computer Should Restart

Is this the way you tried it

[alienbreed]

Also, I can only use the old graphics card on this PC.

Trying to install the 6200 on the Athlon 2600 has resulted in the black screen etc on both cards, no matter what I do.

The instruction manual for the 6200 from Novatech makes no sense. Options they mention don't even exist.

[alienbreed]

Press windows key
tap upper arrow three times
then press enter
hit spacebar
type in devmgmt.msc
press enter
Ctrl + ALT + TAB tap once
press down arrow Three Times
press right arrow
then enter
Ctrl + ALT + TAB tap once
here are your options
by pressing ALT+U...Will Uninstall Driver
Or Pressing ALT+R...Will Rollback Driver
tap enter 3 or 4 times
Computer Should Restart

Is this the way you tried it

No I didn't. I went through "Display" etc like when you press the right mouse button on the desktop and update the driver that way.

I'm going to try how you said then. Cheers.

[mirjel]

Hello alienbreed,

Does your PC work with the old card.

Regards,

[alienbreed]

No mate. Itried intalling the 6200 on it which has resulted in black screen for both cards.

Same thing happened on this older PC but it resets to use the old card for some reason.

[Mr Freeze]

if display is number 3 on device manager and it only has the one driver there it should work
but if has 2 then you may have to do it a second time for the driver thats causing all the problems
so in the second time if you need too do it again in bold try this

Press windows key
tap upper arrow three times
then press enter
hit spacebar
type in devmgmt.msc
press enter
Ctrl + ALT + TAB tap once
press down arrow Three Times
press right arrow
press down arrow
then enter
Ctrl + ALT + TAB tap once
here are your options
by pressing ALT+U...Will Uninstall Driver
Or Pressing ALT+R...Will Rollback Driver
tap enter 3 or 4 times
Computer Should Restart

that should uninstall the second driver
if your computer restart with fuzzy or
or blurry big letters dont be alarmed
with the model # and make of computer the correct drivers can be found
before you attempt to this i would remove your hardware(GRAPHICS CARD)
so in the device manager it may have 2 drivers for display
1 for onboard graphics these can found online easy enough
the 2nd for graphics card (the one you dont need)
Good Luck