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jaydeezy

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Ok, so, i want to build my own gaming computer and so far i think ive rounded up a good list of parts, but i need you guys to help me know if all the parts will work with each other and if it is a good setup. also, im willing to pay an extra 100-200 dollars, so if you see anywhere i can upgrade please let me know

Processor :
http://www.newegg.co...-041-_-Homepage
Processor Fan :
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16835186134
Motherboard :
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813128344
RAM :
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820134730
Video Card :
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814129113
Sound Card :
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16829132006
HD :
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16822136218
Case :
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811129024
CD Drive :
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16827151173

Im also wondering if i should stay with the ASUS sound card or get this creative one :

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16829102006

with this kind of rig would i be able to play games like flight simulator x with graphics at full? I also plan on using Windows Vista 64 bit version

thanks in advance

Edited by jaydeezy, 13 October 2008 - 10:46 PM.

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Hi there and welcome to the site. :)

Two things stand out to me:
  • Your case and PSU combo would not cut it for this build. I would recommend a better PSU, and a case that has better airflow. With that Core 2 Quad, and the powerful graphics card, this thing is going to generate a fair bit of heat. Give me a budget to spend on the case, and PSU, and I can make some recommendations.
  • For the sound card, what speakers will you be using? I would simply recommend using onboard audio for now, it's very good these days. The ASUS sound card seems to have a lot of mixed reviews.
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In addition to what Troy said about the sound card, keep in mind that in Vista, a sound card is rendered useless in the majority of games.
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Thanks for responding. I'm thinking that maybe a quad core might be rather useless, as i don't plan on using this computer for video editing or any software that requires a quad core processor, so i think it would be better if i went with a faster dual core amd processor. I plan on playing games like flight simulator x, and most of the games you would see on steam, but if you think a quad core processor would be the better choice then ill do that. That would also mean id have to change the mobo, so in the end that would leave me with this left :

RAM :
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820134730
Video Card :
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814129113
HD :
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16822136218
CD Drive :
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16827151173

My total budget is 1000 dollars, so i now have 560 dollars to spend on a processor, motherboard, soundcard (if needed) and a case/PSU.

a quick extra question, if the hard drive and cd drive come OEM, does that mean id have to buy cables and screws and such? Im also wondering which version of vista i should buy for gaming. hope this isnt too many questions for one post lol.

thanks in advance.

Edited by jaydeezy, 15 October 2008 - 02:58 PM.

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Onboard sound is generally pretty "decent" depending on what your listening with. If you are using typical computer speakers or a headset definitely skip the sound card for now. There are exceptions - my 780i is finicky in the sound dept and I may end up getting a sound card.

I have a Q6600 quad core and have no regrets - I primarily game. It is a little cheaper than the one you are looking at and will perform very well.

You are getting the retail box CPU - For now I would skip the after market CPU fan and use the fan that is included in the retail box. UNLESS you are going to overclock - then I would get the OEM CPU and buy the aftermarket cooler.

I would look at some different cases w/o a PSU and buy a separate name brand PSU. Corsair and PC Power and Cooling have some decent PSU's on newegg for approx $100.

Just some thoughts from me

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alright, ill look into some different cases and PSU's. Just to let you guys know where i got this build from, i got it from the grand experiment at the tech report :

http://techreport.co...icles.x/15381/4
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oh, responding to 999Virus999, my current computer has a creative audigy 2 ZS, and im using logitech z-5300 speakers. I might transfer my current card to my next computer, but if you think its worth updating ill look into it.
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http://www.tigerdire...AIN#detailspecs

this case seems almost perfect. reviews are good too. what do you guys think?
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Hi there,

The case might be fine, but I am personally not a fan of Ultra products at all. Definitely do not use the included PSU if you choose that case.

From the Tiger Direct website, I cannot see the Antec 300, which would be a good choice for a case. I do, however, see the Thermaltake M9. I have had great success with Thermaltake cases. This M9 looks much better in terms of quality, air-flow, and price.

Then I would look at grabbing this PC Power and Cooling PSU.

You would not have any problems with this combination.

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that case and power supply seem perfect but its breaking the budget by 50 dollars or so, but i think it will be worth it to spend the extra money. Is their any chance i could get those products on new egg, as id like to make my order all together, and not spend the extra shipping charges. Anyway, as a conclusion ill post the entire rig ive got gathered now, and just give me a quick nod of the head if it all works out :)

Core2 Quad Q9400
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819115131
GIGABYTE GA-EP45-DS3R LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813128344
Kingston 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820134730
VisionTek 900244 Radeon HD 4870 512MB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814129113
Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16822136218
SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 22X DVD-R 16X DVD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 22X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16827151173
Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit English for System Builders 1pk DSP OEI DVD - OEM
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16832116488
Thermaltake VI1000BNS M9 ATX Mid-Tower Case
http://www.tigerdire...p;sku=T925-2287
PC Power & Cooling / Silencer / 610-Watt / PCI-Express / SATA-Ready / Copper Power Supply
http://www.tigerdire...p;sku=P227-1000

Last question, the hard drive and the cd drive come OEM. does this mean im going to have to buy some extra cables? Thanks for all your help so far, this is my first build so i want to make sure i get things done right.
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Hi there,

You can remove the Arctic Silver 5 to save a few dollars. Your processor comes with a heatsink and fan, and thermal paste will be included in the package. When I purchased my last Intel processor, a thermal pad was included and fitted to the heatsink. Yours may be the same.

This system looks like it will be an absolute screamer. You sure can purchase those parts from Newegg, you can compare the Antec 300 and the Thermaltake M9 and choose whichever looks the better to you. I would rate them both the same, and purchase whichever is cheaper.

Good luck with the build!

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Looks good. You can use the sound card you have or just use the onboard for now. Try it both ways and see which way you like the best. You can always save up for an audio card later if you don't like either. That board has Realtek audio which is what my 780i has so you might end up putting your card in.

As Troy said skip the AS thermal paste. If you are not OC'ing, the factory thermal pads will be positioned properly for your Q9400 and will work just fine at stock speeds. If you OC some time down the road then get some AS with your new heatsink.

The PSU and case are good - I don't know if you are planning on Crossfire but you wont be able to Crossfire with that PSU as it only has 2 - 6 pin PCI-E connectors from what I see on the website. I said for a couple years "I'm going to SLI" but never did so I don't think I would worry about it.

Most important you are within your budget :)

Enjoy
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Edited by 999Virus999, 16 October 2008 - 11:32 PM.

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Last question, the hard drive and the cd drive come OEM. does this mean im going to have to buy some extra cables? Thanks for all your help so far, this is my first build so i want to make sure i get things done right.

Your motherboard usually comes with cables and per the specification page in newegg, here's the list of things you're getting with that motherboard:
Driver Disk
User Manual
Rear I/O Panel Shield
IDE/PATA Cable
FDD Cable
SATA Cable
eSATA Bracket
eSATA Cable & Power Cord

However it doesn't specify how many you'll get but one reviewer mentioned that it comes with 4 SATA cables (I got lucky and the package for my Gigabyte motherboard came with about 6 SATA cables, my brother however got fewer than me).

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thanks guys for the help..last question, is a backup device simply just using another HD to backup all your files from when you just get your computer setup in case something goes wrong, and is it worth getting one?
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thanks guys for the help..last question, is a backup device simply just using another HD to backup all your files from when you just get your computer setup in case something goes wrong, and is it worth getting one?


Yes a backup device is simply another place to store data in case your system goes south or you have to reformat your HDD. I don't have a backup device but might get a second HDD and store all my pics etc on it so I don't lose them. This way they will be on my main HDD as well as the backup HDD. If one or the other goes south I still have the data on the other.

EDIT - In answer to your question, if everything that you keep on your computer comes from a box (like games etc) then I wouldn't worry too much about it. If your HDD goes south you can always re-install all of this stuff. However, if you download things like music, gaming mods etc or if you store your digital pics (especially if you store digital pics and stuff that you can NEVER replace) on your HDD then it is a GOOD idea to store that stuff both on your HDD and a backup device.

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Edited by 999Virus999, 18 October 2008 - 05:39 PM.

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