As for the other video card I will let someone more in the know chime in.
Need help with building budgeted gaming desktop (amateur)
#16
Posted 17 December 2008 - 08:50 PM
As for the other video card I will let someone more in the know chime in.
#17
Posted 18 December 2008 - 01:17 AM
Here is the final order:
CPU: e8400 WolfDale
Motherboard: GIGABYTE UD3R
Video Card: ASUS Radeon HD 4830 (I decided to change this from the 9800 GT – some people say they are the same, some say the 4830 is slightly better, so I went with the 4830).
RAM: G.Skill 4GB(2x2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 1066
Power Supply: OCZ StealthStream 600W
Monitor: SAMSUNG 2233bw High Glossy Black 22" 5ms Widescreen LCD
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar 500 GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0 GB
DVD: LG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe
Case: Antec 900 (great case, the blue looks sweet!)
Keyboard: Saitek Black USB Wired Standard Eclipse (this has illuminated blue keys – matches the case!).
Mouse: Logitech MX518 – I already had this.
OS: Vista 64-bit - I got this for free from a student organization that I am in.
The total for all this (minus the last two which I already had) turned out to be 830$ after all promo codes, discounts, and rebates.
Did I spend my money well? What do you guys think?
Thanks to everyone who has helped me – I’ve learned a lot! Now it’s time to build lol – this will not be fun.
Am I missing anything else? I don’t need a cooler unless I decide to overclock – right?
The only other thing I need that I can think of are speakers. Is there anything you guys recommend that isn’t too expensive? Here are the two that I was looking at:
Logitech X-240 25 Watts 2.1 Speaker – Retail
40.99
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16836121010
or
LOGISYS Computer SP6000-BK 32Watts 2.1 SOHO MULTIMEDIA SPEAKER SYSTEM
23.99
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16836157002
I don’t know which one I should get. The Logitech one is great because it’s Logitech… plus the black speakers will match my case… but its 40.99 … on the other hand the other one has great reviews and is supposed to great for gaming but it’s some weird company called LOGISYS.. and the speakers look nice but they are more silver than black and they won’t match my case at all… but they’re only 23.99.
The crappy part is that either speaker will cost me an extra 15$ for shipping … all the stuff I’ve bought so far conveniently had free shipping. Not sure what to do – any other alternatives? Or maybe I should just stick with the monitor speakers? And then maybe just use a headset from the monitor speakers when I game? Or is that not a good idea?
Thanks!
#18
Posted 18 December 2008 - 02:30 PM
Alright – I’m done ordering everything (except the speakers). Let me know how I did!
Here is the final order:
CPU: e8400 WolfDale
Motherboard: GIGABYTE UD3R
Video Card: ASUS Radeon HD 4830 (I decided to change this from the 9800 GT – some people say they are the same, some say the 4830 is slightly better, so I went with the 4830).
RAM: G.Skill 4GB(2x2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 1066
Power Supply: OCZ StealthStream 600W
Monitor: SAMSUNG 2233bw High Glossy Black 22" 5ms Widescreen LCD
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar 500 GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0 GB
DVD: LG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe
Case: Antec 900 (great case, the blue looks sweet!)
Keyboard: Saitek Black USB Wired Standard Eclipse (this has illuminated blue keys – matches the case!).
Mouse: Logitech MX518 – I already had this.
OS: Vista 64-bit - I got this for free from a student organization that I am in.
The total for all this (minus the last two which I already had) turned out to be 830$ after all promo codes, discounts, and rebates.
Did I spend my money well? What do you guys think?
Thanks to everyone who has helped me – I’ve learned a lot! Now it’s time to build lol – this will not be fun.
Am I missing anything else? I don’t need a cooler unless I decide to overclock – right?
The only other thing I need that I can think of are speakers. Is there anything you guys recommend that isn’t too expensive? Here are the two that I was looking at:
Logitech X-240 25 Watts 2.1 Speaker – Retail
40.99
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16836121010
or
LOGISYS Computer SP6000-BK 32Watts 2.1 SOHO MULTIMEDIA SPEAKER SYSTEM
23.99
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16836157002
I don’t know which one I should get. The Logitech one is great because it’s Logitech… plus the black speakers will match my case… but its 40.99 … on the other hand the other one has great reviews and is supposed to great for gaming but it’s some weird company called LOGISYS.. and the speakers look nice but they are more silver than black and they won’t match my case at all… but they’re only 23.99.
The crappy part is that either speaker will cost me an extra 15$ for shipping … all the stuff I’ve bought so far conveniently had free shipping. Not sure what to do – any other alternatives? Or maybe I should just stick with the monitor speakers? And then maybe just use a headset from the monitor speakers when I game? Or is that not a good idea?
Thanks!
Logisys is a low end peripherals maker. They also make PSUs that are complete garbage. As for headphones for gaming. I know a lot of people like the headphones with the built in microphone a) because they can chat to other players on their teams and b) there is no huge boom when the bass hits of an explosion which keeps from disturbing everyone at night.
That being said if you are going to need to use speakers say to play music etc. Since you are not getting free shipping on the speakers. Try looking at some of the other sites.
EDIT: If you don't mind refurbished, I checked geeks.com and they have the logitechs for $24.99 I have ordered bulk networking cable and things like that from geeks.com multiple times and have been very pleased with them (just incase you hadn't heard of them). Shipping runs about the same, @ $12.00
#19
Posted 18 December 2008 - 11:39 PM
1. Crysis, DX10, High Details, 2xAA, 1280x1024 - This card has an average of 34 FPS. This is right up there with the 9800GTX and the 4870 512-MB.
2. Call of Duty 4, Highest Details, 4xAA, 2560x1600 - This card got an average of 39 FPS. This is also right up there with the 9800GTX and the 4850 512-MB.
3. World in Conflict, DX10, Highest Details, 1289x1024 - This card got an average of 38 FPS. That is right up there with the 9800GTX and if the get the Asus 9800GT Ultimate edition, it PASSES the 9800GTX!!
So as you can see, the 9800 is no joke of a card. It is equipped with a lot of muscle and will be perfect for a 22" moniter. I just wanted you to know the facts.
Also, your question about the PSU. A 600-Watt PSU will be fine for your system. The only reason you should get a PSU over 600-Watts is if you wanted to brag to your friends about it or if you wanted to do SLI or in your case Crossfire.
But all-in-all, your system looks great and you should be very happy with it. Goodluck with your build!
Cheers
ROIDO
#20
Posted 18 December 2008 - 11:44 PM
Very true my friend, very true. Go with Logitech, they make great speakers. I have the Z-5500 and I am still waiting for a company to release a set of better computer speakers.Logisys is a low end peripherals maker.
Cheers
ROIDO
#21
Posted 19 December 2008 - 01:21 AM
Keep in mind though that I did not buy the 9800 GT - I bought the 4830 instead - but I hear they are very similar.
I bought some other stuff on NewEgg today:
Mousepad: steelseries 63005SS QcK mini.
Speakers: Logitech X-240 25 Watts 2.1
Router: LINKSYS WRT54GL IEEE 802.3/3u, IEEE 802.11b/g Wireless-G Broadband
Games: Battlefield 2: Complete Collection and Counter Strike: Source
The above games are sort of old - I also want to buy a new game that will really challenge my system - but at the same time I want the game to be multiplayer and fun. Do you think my system would be able to handle Crysis?
#22
Posted 19 December 2008 - 02:01 PM
As for your system running Crysis. It will be able too. You have a great gaming processor, and a perfect amount of RAM, more than you need for the game. The graphics card is also very good and it has good benchmarks in Crysis. So your computer will be able to run Crysis, and run it well.
Goodluck with everything and I hope it comes out to the way you imagined it!
Cheers
ROIDO
#23
Posted 24 December 2008 - 01:51 AM
I think the PSU is defective or something... sometimes when I'm flipping the switch and I lean in real close I hear a slight hissing sound, not sure if its the PSU or the motherboard, but I'm guessing the PSU.
I dont know if its just because I am new at this.. but I really think I plugged in everything where it belongs.. this really sucks
#24
Posted 24 December 2008 - 12:21 PM
The missing pin is #10 (+12V) ... that sounds important.
EDIT : Nvm, I wasn't looking at the pin alignment close enough and I had it backwards, the missing pin is #17 - which is GND - so that should not matter right?
Edited by Sk0rch, 24 December 2008 - 01:07 PM.
#25
Posted 24 December 2008 - 02:07 PM
I made some progress.
Here is what I did.
I followed this guide exactly - http://www.pcmech.co...ad.php?t=132409
and it didn't work - then I decided to follow the guide exactly AND plug the power switch from my case onto the MOBO - this lit up the mobo, i heard the fans spinning and everything was great! it stayed on for about 5 seconds, shut off, and then did it all over again a few seconds later.. it was a cycle. I'm not sure what this means but I think I have made some progress - what should I do from here?
#26
Posted 24 December 2008 - 04:31 PM
Here is what the situation is:
I have the everything out of the case.. the mobo is on top of the box it came in .. I have the PSU connected to the mobo, I have the case power switch and the other front panel cords connected to the mobo, one of the case fans connected to the PSU.. the CPU is on the mobo with the heatsink installed. I also have one stick of RAM in there.
That's it.
#27
Posted 25 December 2008 - 12:42 AM
But if it's not the PSU then what? I tell NewEgg that the mobo may be defected as well? If that doesn't fix it I call NewEgg again and say the CPU is defective?
#28
Posted 25 December 2008 - 10:14 AM
Edited by PedroDaGR8, 25 December 2008 - 10:24 AM.
#29
Posted 26 December 2008 - 06:44 PM
The new PSU came from newegg this afternoon - same result.
I drove to tigerdirect and bought a new motherboard, and now it's staying on! I'm glad that's over... hopefully I don't run into anymore problems. Thanks for your help.
I do have one more question though - the motherboard I bought from tiger direct was this one: Asus P5Q Green Motherboard - Intel P45, Socket 775, ATX, Audio, PCI Express 2.0, S/PDIF, Gigabit LAN, Firewire, USB 2.0, SATA, RAID
for 129.99 + 12$ tax... the P5Q-E was not in stock.
So my question is - is this motherboard fine? Because if it is not - what I could do is just use this one and tell Newegg to refund my defected motherboard and buy a new one from newegg and after it arrives in 2-3 days, I'll return this one to TigerDirect. Should I do that or this mobo fine? Here is the link to it.
http://www.tigerdire...e...&CatId=3790
Thanks.
#30
Posted 26 December 2008 - 08:33 PM
Yeah - so it was the motherboard that was defected.
The new PSU came from newegg this afternoon - same result.
I drove to tigerdirect and bought a new motherboard, and now it's staying on! I'm glad that's over... hopefully I don't run into anymore problems. Thanks for your help.
I do have one more question though - the motherboard I bought from tiger direct was this one: Asus P5Q Green Motherboard - Intel P45, Socket 775, ATX, Audio, PCI Express 2.0, S/PDIF, Gigabit LAN, Firewire, USB 2.0, SATA, RAID
for 129.99 + 12$ tax... the P5Q-E was not in stock.
So my question is - is this motherboard fine? Because if it is not - what I could do is just use this one and tell Newegg to refund my defected motherboard and buy a new one from newegg and after it arrives in 2-3 days, I'll return this one to TigerDirect. Should I do that or this mobo fine? Here is the link to it.
http://www.tigerdire...e...&CatId=3790
Thanks.
That asus is similar but not quite the motherboard that the Gigabyte is. The main areas I see wit the asus is that you have ONE less PCIex1 port on the board, 2 less USB ports on the back, 1 less mini-firewire port on the back and the Power Supply plug in is located in the WORST position I have ever seen.
The gigabyte places the PSU plugin (the wide one) by the ram modules where it will not get in the way of airflow.
Otherwise they are similar, though I remember you saying you wanted to do SLI or crossfire and neither of these boards support that. Maybe you decided against it or that it was too costly.
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