[Magglass]

Now I'm starting to see. You can store the other pics here. once you have saved them, send me the links in your next post.

Edited by Magglass, 27 March 2009 - 07:13 PM.

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hello magglass, i put 19 photos in a folder, selected each photo to upload in your link but only 1 photo saves. tried this twice. not sure how to download all 19 photos onto one site. here are 2 more for a total of 4
http://storeandserve...re_141.jpg.html
http://storeandserve...re_121.jpg.html


not sure i took photos of the following areas earlier when i had the tower apart. let me know if these help or if you need others. thanks for all your help!

---You should see a ribbon cable (A flat cable about two and one half inches wide) it connects from your mother board to your Hard drive. Things to look for. Do you see a second (usually grey) connector that is on that cable, which is not connected to anything. (i don't recall seeing these)

---If you could take a pic of the space where your current drive installed and the space (If you have one) where your cd Rom is. (the cd player is on left side of tower & seagate hd is on right side).

[radiorunner]

hello magglass, i put 19 photos in a folder, selected each photo to upload in your link but only 1 photo saves. tried this twice. not sure how to download all 19 photos onto one site. here are 2 more for a total of 4
http://storeandserve...re_141.jpg.html
http://storeandserve...re_121.jpg.html


not sure i took photos of the following areas earlier when i had the tower apart. let me know if these help or if you need others. thanks for all your help!

---You should see a ribbon cable (A flat cable about two and one half inches wide) it connects from your mother board to your Hard drive. Things to look for. Do you see a second (usually grey) connector that is on that cable, which is not connected to anything. (i don't recall seeing these)

---If you could take a pic of the space where your current drive installed and the space (If you have one) where your cd Rom is. (the cd player is on left side of tower & seagate hd is on right side).

[Magglass]

Let me know if this is your Hard Drive:

[123Runner]

Based on what I am seeing, I do not believe you can add another hard drive. There is no room.

The Ipaq was

Simplified for business computing, the iPAQ Desktop appeals to employees in corporate network
environments who primarily use PCs for mainstream office productivity applications and corporate Internet/Intranet access.

.

REVIEW ON IPAQ

MORE INFO.

A possibility would be to replace the drive with another larger one, but that will open up more possible issues such as:
1. Is this a special drive size other than a 2.5 (laptop) or 3.5 (desktop)?
2. Will the bios accept the new size?

I am trying to find a manual for this and I am getting close.
Need to know the following.
Is it a legacy version or a legacy free? Look for USB ports/ and or parallel and serial ports.

There are two iPAQ Desktop versions. The iPAQ Desktop with Legacy Ports provides parallel, serial, and PS/2 ports for existing peripherals, running Windows 2000, 98, or NT4. The iPAQ Desktop Legacy-Free features Windows 2000 or ME and six USB ports
for the new wave of USB peripherals

LEGACY MODELS
LEGACY FREE MODELS

[radiorunner]

Magglass, in response to your question, your arrow is pointing to the thing that states:
Seagate U8 Model ST38410A
16383 CYL - 16 HDS - 63 SECT - LBA 16,514,064
8455 MB
Model: ST38410A
P/N: 9P5002 030
Configuration Level: B21432

sticker on side of Seagate said:
Replace with Compaq Spare
8.4 GB HD
[163804-001]

123Runner, the person who gave me the Compaq computer told me he thought it was a Legacy Free model (ie no PF/2 round pins). However, note that there are only 5 holes for USB 1.1 (2 in front, 3 in back).

access to highspeed internet tonight so was able to send more photos:

here are links to a few more photos:
http://storeandserve...re_120.jpg.html
http://storeandserve...re_118.jpg.html
http://storeandserve...re_125.jpg.html
http://storeandserve...re_127.jpg.html
http://storeandserve...re_131.jpg.html
http://storeandserve...re_134.jpg.html
http://storeandserve...re_140.jpg.html

i attached a document w/ compaq specs in an earlier document & hope it helps identify this compaq.

got a message tonight about pc recovering from a serious error. tried to attach images of the message & error report i received but it is too big.
just before i got this message i had a message that virtual memory minimum too low. is the attached message a result of computer infected (downloader virus & trojans found on flash drive & 2 malware found on c drive end of February, or running out of space, or ? thanks

[Magglass]

Hello radiorunner

Now that we have your disc identified in your machine.
It's time to take it out and see if the cable will connect to a newer drive.
Ultra DMA- the model in your machine came in two flavors, one had a 40 pin connector, the other had an 80 pin connector.
The connector (Flat ribbon cable) should be at either the top or bottom of your drive.
It looks like the made it fairly easy to remove: In the pic, you can see a pin that is in a groove, it looks like it should just slide upwards to come out.
Once you take the drive out, disconnect the cable, on the end of the cable count the number of holes, there will be either 40 or 80.
Also, looking at the pic, see arrow. see if those stubs can be removed. They can be on other compaq's, with a torque screw driver.
Click on the pic twice to enlarge.

virtual memory minimum too low

Is a reult of low amount of RAM. When main memory needs space it writes anything it doesn't need at the moment out to disk. (ie virtual memory) It depends on what was running on your machine at the time. How many open windows and/or programs were running. It will try to expand itself, this may have been what caused the error, it ran out of disc space.

[radiorunner]

magglass, i apologize for delay getting back to you. i am still cleaning up from a mainline that broke & flooded basement.

i have a quick question for you---if i disconnect the connector on hard drive to see if 40 or 80 pin connector, will this erase everything on the hard drive? thanks

[rshaffer61]

DO NOT DO THAT IF THE SYSTEM IS RUNNING
Turn the system off then disconnect the cable
It will do more then erase, it could short your HD out.

[radiorunner]

rshaffer61 & magglass: if i shut down pc, & unplug everything & open up tower to check if 40 or 80 pin connector on hard drive, & then plug it back in & power it up, will it erase or mess up any files on it?

also, will you be recommending a second hard drive or a replacement hard drive? if later, how will i move programs from current hard drive to new hard drive when i no longer have cds to download them?

thanks

[rshaffer61]

I'm not sure if magglass is advising a new drive or second drive.


"if i shut down pc, & unplug everything & open up tower to check if 40 or 80 pin connector on hard drive, & then plug it back in & power it up, will it erase or mess up any files on it?"
No as long as you do exactly how you said.

[radiorunner]

ok will try it. cross your fingers...

[rshaffer61]

OK keep us posted. Like I tell all the people I help just relax and take your time. Make sure you discharge any electric you might have in you by touching something metal before touching any internal parts.
Just a safety precaution

[123Runner]

Disconnecting the drives to look at the cables won't do you any good. All you need to do is open the side of the computer to look at the cables.
The difference is that the 40 conductor is just that (40 wires).
The 80 conductor is 80 wires. Basicly the 80 wire is thinner in wire size so therefore it is a smoother cable.

40 wire has the same number of pins and sockets as the 80 wire.
40 wire has all black connectors.
80 wire has the black blue and grey.

40 Core Cable
80 Core Cable

[Magglass]

Hello radiorunner,

123Runner is correct regarding the sockets (Connector), the 80 conductor cable disperses extra grounds in between the conductors that carry the signals.

After looking at your system and searching the net, You have an (IPAQ 1.0 Legacy Free) system.
The system specs can be found here
Based on those specs your drive cable is 80 conductor.

In regards to

will you be recommending a second hard drive or a replacement hard drive?

I was heading towards a replacement drive. In order to do this you would need disc cloning software and another disc drive. Since your on a tight budget you may want to take a look at this one. I have seen recommendations for free cloning software on this site, I'll have to ask around, just can't think of the name at the moment.

There are a couple of possible ways to get your current drive info onto the new one.
1. Your system specs show a multibay (Located where your CD ROM is) hard drive adapter. (Used for adding a second hard drive)
This looks like an accessory, I'm not sure if you have this.
2. Put both of your Drives into another system (a friends) that has room for the two additional drives.
Since your so low on space, the clone software will need to have the ability to boot from a CD. (If using option 1)

Just to give you an idea of how this would work. The concept is the same in either case.
You attach both drives to a system. (One as the Master(The original drive), one as the Slave(The new drive)) (These are jumper settings on the drive)
The cloning software makes an image of the original disc, to the new disc. (They become exactly the same)
The new drive would be changed to the master, put back into the spot where your current drive is.

If you could take a snapshot of the side where your CD ROM is, (Cover off) I'll try to determine if you have the hard drive adapter.

[radiorunner]

hello magglass/123 runner/rshaffer61: after disconnecting the cable to the seagate harddrive there are 39 holes/pins on the cable. here are a couple of photos of the cd player & harddrive connection. what next? thanks

http://storeandserve...re_205.jpg.html
http://storeandserve...re_203.jpg.html
http://storeandserve...re_198.jpg.html