[Kindprism]

Hello. I am here to ask for some help building a computer. This is my first time building one. I am building a new computer because my old computer just got knocked off by my cat when I left for a week. This broke it. Took it in to a repair shop and they told me I need a new motherboard. Then new RAM . The final cost was 210. Which would not make my computer a bit faster. So I decided to just take the plunge and build a new one. I am looking to build a computer for slight gaming on a budget. I mean gaming such as WOW(world of warcraft) and Minecraft. My budget is around $400 however I would like to keep it as low as possible.

Motherboard http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813157260

CPU/Processor http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819103955

RAM http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820134792

Case http://www.newegg.co...#scrollFullInfo

Video Card http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814161315

I have a hard drive from my old computer. Mouse, speakers, keyboard, monitor, and all CD drives are all taken care of already. I bought a Power Supply a few months ago. It broke and I am waiting for a new one. It is a 750W that is a good brand if I remember right. I am planning to buy Window 7 64bit sometime soon.

If you feel that my build could be improved at all ( which I am 100% you can) then please tell me how so. I am doing my best to learn as much as I can about computers.

Thanks for the help.(Also sorry about the double post. It said it did not post so I posted it again. Guess it turns out that it did post after all. Sorry)

Edited by Kindprism, 24 September 2011 - 02:21 PM.

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Firstly Welcome to GeekstoGo

Secondly you should, if you have NOT already done so, go to each manufacturers site and have a look at the product there.

Here for instance is the Coolermaster forum and from there you can go easily to the site
http://forum.coolerm....com/search.php

Here is the motherboard ASRock
http://www.asrock.co...=Specifications
On there you can see the recommended RAM with which the board has been tested and the supported CPU`s.

and here is the one for the graphics.
http://www.hisdigital.com/gb/


The case is Tool-less build and that means that basically all is clipped etc with no screws. Not to everyone liking. You need to ensure that normal fixings can still be used, as sometimes the clips break.

That all said in principle I see nothing glaringly wrong with your choices, but I would look closely at the idea of only 4Gb ram. That motherboard has ONLY TWO ram slots, so you cannot of course increase the ram without wasting one of the sticks. Personally I would go for 8Gb. Windows 7 64 bit requires a minimum of 2Gb itself.


HOWEVER the far far more important advice is this. This is your first build and you would not be the first person and certainly not the last to get it wrong and find out that you have made a very expensive error.

See this, please read it carefully and then my advice is re=read it. It is a guide written by our Staff members and is possibly one of the better guides available
http://www.geekstogo...r-own-computer/


If you need an example of just how wrong things can go see this
http://www.geekstogo...d-wont-turn-on/

My further advice is to obtain a computer, which is beyond its useful service life, but working. It does not really matter that it will not be the same as the one you are building. TAKE the computer completely to pieces. REBUILD IT. If it still boots you have it correct. If it does not - obviously on the face of it, you have something wrong.
For the sake of a small amount of cash, if you DO have to buy it, it could save you many times that amount.

Finally I wish you the best of luck.
We are here if you need any further help.

All the advice you need is in that article from our site.
I would draw your attention to the following points:
1. Take your time, there are no prizes for speed.
2. Choose a time when you can be assured that you will not be interrupted. Interruptions are t one of the prime causes of errors.
3. Choose your working area with due regard to anti-static.
4. Be especially careful when seating the motherboard, incorrect stand-offs or securing it incorrectly are frequently fatal errors when you power-up
5. Check your build at each stage.
6. Do NOT open any component anti-static wrappings until you are ready to use them.

Good luck

Edited by Macboatmaster, 24 September 2011 - 03:25 PM.

[Macboatmaster]

Firstly Welcome to GeekstoGo

Secondly you should, if you have NOT already done so, go to each manufacturers site and have a look at the product there.

Here for instance is the Coolermaster forum and from there you can go easily to the site
http://forum.coolerm....com/search.php

Here is the motherboard ASRock
http://www.asrock.co...=Specifications
On there you can see the recommended RAM with which the board has been tested and the supported CPU`s.

and here is the one for the graphics.
http://www.hisdigital.com/gb/


The case is Tool-less build and that means that basically all is clipped etc with no screws. Not to everyone liking. You need to ensure that normal fixings can still be used, as sometimes the clips break.

That all said in principle I see nothing glaringly wrong with your choices, but I would look closely at the idea of only 4Gb ram. That motherboard has ONLY TWO ram slots, so you cannot of course increase the ram without wasting one of the sticks. Personally I would go for 8Gb. Windows 7 64 bit requires a minimum of 2Gb itself.


HOWEVER the far far more important advice is this. This is your first build and you would not be the first person and certainly not the last to get it wrong and find out that you have made a very expensive error.

See this, please read it carefully and then my advice is re=read it. It is a guide written by our Staff members and is possibly one of the better guides available
http://www.geekstogo...r-own-computer/


If you need an example of just how wrong things can go see this
http://www.geekstogo...d-wont-turn-on/

My further advice is to obtain a computer, which is beyond its useful service life, but working. It does not really matter that it will not be the same as the one you are building. TAKE the computer completely to pieces. REBUILD IT. If it still boots you have it correct. If it does not - obviously on the face of it, you have something wrong.
For the sake of a small amount of cash, if you DO have to buy it, it could save you many times that amount.

Finally I wish you the best of luck.
We are here if you need any further help.

All the advice you need is in that article from our site.
I would draw your attention to the following points:
1. Take your time, there are no prizes for speed.
2. Choose a time when you can be assured that you will not be interrupted. Interruptions are t one of the prime causes of errors.
3. Choose your working area with due regard to anti-static.
4. Be especially careful when seating the motherboard, incorrect stand-offs or securing it incorrectly are frequently fatal errors when you power-up
5. Check your build at each stage.
6. Do NOT open any component anti-static wrappings until you are ready to use them.

Good luck

Edited by Macboatmaster, 24 September 2011 - 03:25 PM.

[Kindprism]

Thanks for the info. I looked up the info about each of the components and as far as I could tell they all will work just fine together.

I looked up parts and I found a build I liked more.

Motherboard http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813157176

RAM http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820231314

Video card http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814129185

Processor http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819103846

On the subject of cases. I have a few different cases laying around the house from older computers. How can I tell if they would work okay? They are all pretty large.

Also I would like to apologize about making new posts. I am not quite sure how the whole forums work here. Did not know if I should have made a new one or just posted on this one.

Thank you very much for the help Macboatmaster. Sorry for the trouble of making a new build and new posts. Is there any way I can just delete all my other threads?

[Macboatmaster]

In relation to the other posts, I have arranged for them to be sorted as a Moderator thinks fit.
If while you have a thread running on a particular subject, such as building a new computer you simply wish to seek further advice rgarding the build with different specifications of a part, there is no need to start a new thread and if you were into the build, whilst that thread was running and then had a question regarding some particular aspect of it, there is still no need to start a new thread.

However the question you asked regarding a totally different matter when Digerati answered you, regarding the computer you had been given, clearly did need a new thread.

Another most important aspect is that respond to the thread, when advice has been offered., eg. on this one, as it is only by your response that we know if the advice has been useful to you and whether or not you require further help with the matter.

On this thread, one of the most important pieces of advice in my opinion was to read the excellent article prepared by two of our Staff members, regarding building a computer.

In repect of this query

On the subject of cases. I have a few different cases laying around the house from older computers. How can I tell if they would work okay? They are all pretty large.

It is VERY unlikely they will be suitable. Apertures for cooling fans, front audio connections and power and reset switches and front USB port connections even if the latter exist are likely to present you with many problems. Older cases had separate connectors, rather than the newer type of block connectors that can only be inserted onto the motherboard headers the correct way. My advice is do not even consider it.

Edited by Macboatmaster, 26 September 2011 - 03:21 PM.

[Kindprism]

I have learned lots of info from this website in the past few days. Thanks everyone. Especially to Macboatmaster.

At this point I am waiting for my next check and then I will buy myself all the parts. I have already dissembled a computer and rebuilt it. Worked fine. I am going to re post my parts just for simplicity sake. If there is any parts that are not compatible. Please tell me as quick as you can. I would really rather not buy the parts. Build it. And discover it does not work because I messed up somewhere.

Motherboard http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813157176

Video card ( I changed it last minute because this new one seemed a bit better for a really small price increase.)http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814141117

Case http://www.newegg.co...#scrollFullInfo

Ram http://www.newegg.co...#scrollFullInfo

CPU http://www.newegg.co...#scrollFullInfo

Again. Thank you so much for helping me out throughout this entire way. Sorry for messing up on the subject of when to make a new thread. This is one of the most helpful websites I have seen in a while.

[Macboatmaster]

I have had a look, but only briefly.
There is nothing obvious that I see wrong.
Again YOU must check each component on the manufacturers site to ensure yourself that they are all compatible and in the case of the ram and CPU I would go with what ASRock recommend for those most important items, as per my comment on my previous post.

The only matter that I see worthy of comment is the motherboard only supports SATA 3Gb
Storage DevicesPATA1 x ATA133 2 Dev. MaxSATA 3Gb/s4SATA RAID0/1/10/JBOD

So if you wanted in time to use a Sata 6Gb hard drive, then although it is backwards compatible, you would lose the benefit of the 6Gb tranasfer rate.


WD is leading the way with a full lineup of
SATA 6 Gb/s drives.

Over the years the industry has increased bus bandwidth from PATA through SATA 1.5 Gb/s and SATA 3 Gb/s to keep up with the demand for higher transfer rates. The next evolution of bus bandwidth has now been achieved with the introduction of SATA 6 Gb/s, (SATA 3.0). We've added a SATA 6 Gb/s interface to our award-winning WD Caviar Blue, Green, and Black desktop hard drives in capacities from 250 GB - 3 TB. This transition to a SATA 6 Gb/s interface aligns with the introduction of SATA 6 Gb/s-supporting chip sets and motherboards coming to the market.

Edited by Macboatmaster, 27 September 2011 - 11:56 AM.

[Kindprism]

Hmm. Okay. Looked it up as best as I could and it all seems to be fine. I am going to order it as soon as I can. If I have any problems I will be back here. And if it all does work out I think I might come back here anyways just to tell all of you helpful people how it came out. Thanks everyone for the help. I have learned so much in the past few days.

[Macboatmaster]

You did note I presume my information regarding the 3Gb Sata on that board.